EEL and Couttsey how can we make them feel loved

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Coutts contract expires this summer I think. The EEL could be recalled in January unless we can sign him permanently. Whilst at the end of the day money talks surely if a player is enjoying playing, is in a successful team and is a fans favourite then this must influence whether he signs for us or not. Personally I would love to see both these players sign for us - in Coutts case extending his contract. He in particular got so much stick on here last season and even now has his detractors. I wonder if players ever read this? Anyway I think we need to start a campaign to make them appreciate how much we the fans (or most of us) love them so hopefully this will work in our favour. What can we do. New chants for them? A Cooooouuuuts (a la Scoouugs) for Coutts?
 



Yewsman said:
Coutts contract expires this summer I think. The EEL could be recalled in January unless we can sign him permanently. Whilst at the end of the day money talks surely if a player is enjoying playing, is in a successful team and is a fans favourite then this must influence whether he signs for us or not. Personally I would love to see both these players sign for us - in Coutts case extending his contract. He in particular got so much stick on here last season and even now has his detractors. I wonder if players ever read this? Anyway I think we need to start a campaign to make them appreciate how much we the fans (or most of us) love them so hopefully this will work in our favour. What can we do. New chants for them? A Cooooouuuuts (a la Scoouugs) for Coutts?
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At the end of a players contract they will normally go to whoever offers them the best contract and the best opportunities going forwards.

Realistically the best we can offer them both is Championship football, and a contract consumerate with Championship football. If we don't go up, it is nailed on that both of them will choose a move to a Wigan or Bristol City instead of staying with the Blades because the money will be better and the standard of football will be higher. That is the reality of it. Campaigns and new songs, simply won't persuade them to resign.
 
Enjoying your football must play a part in the decision (although I'm not naive enough to think that money isn't a huge factor.) must help to know they are getting support from the fans too!

If we are in and around the top 2 in jan hopefully that means they both sign up. Freeman too! They both seem to be enjoying their football and the team spirit here.

For the first time since he signed coutts is getting a consistent run in the side. And eel is one of the first names on the team sheet here, must be better than being back up elsewhere?

If it's an issue about playing on the championship we Could offer coutts a contact with a clause in that if we don't go up we have to listen to offers from the championship if he is so desperate to play there.
 
Not sure how it's possible for Coutts to recieve any more adulation than he has already. He owes us a full season of good form to compensate for the last one.

The players here have a good set up and facilities that are among the best in the football league. They're earning a few bob too. We owe them nothing to be honest.
 
Wilder will explain to them that there is the potential to becoming United legends and getting Bramhall Lane bouncing again. When the club is in that state there aren't many places that can compare. However, its up to them. The grass is looking quite green over here and I believe it will get a lot, lot more greener.
 
Offer them Championship football and they're ours. Otherwise...

Couttsy is rightly getting plenty of support now. There was a clearly discernible Coooooootts when he won a 20-80 challenge against a couple of them on Sunday.

Proper footballer. ❤️ him.
 
Coutts is settled in Sheffield with his family, and to be fair I would have thought we are giving him a decent wage when signed by Clough, even if we dont go up this season, we may be able to keep him on a 1 year extension along the lines of lets give it 1 more go this season and take it from there
 
To the tune of glad all over...

We've got our Billy,he scores all of the time,
Wilder and Knilly,they love a bottle of wine :rolleyes:
and we love..Ebanks landell
We love Ebanks landell
we love Ebanks landell,all of the time

And John Fle-eck,he never loses the ball,
Stephan scougall,he's only 3ft tall
and we love etc etc

for a small fee I may allow coutts to be slotted into the John fleck lyric,or may be tempted to write a 3rd verse:eek:
 
Ecco1889 said:
To the tune of glad all over...

We've got our Billy,he scores all of the time,
Wilder and Knilly,they love a bottle of wine :rolleyes:
and we love..Ebanks landell
We love Ebanks landell
we love Ebanks landell,all of the time

And John Fle-eck,he never loses the ball,
Stephan scougall,he's only 3ft tall
and we love etc etc

for a small fee I may allow coutts to be slotted into the John fleck lyric,or may be tempted to write a 3rd verse:eek:
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I wouldn't sing that song if it was the last song in the world. (Memories of Play off final - shudder)
 



Maybe cynicism guides my opinion, or possibly I have a grip on reality, but the days of supporter adulation being the thing that tips a player towards remaining at a club are long gone (assuming this scenario ever existed to begin with). Every player thumps his chest, they pull at the badge as if they have a lifelong affiliation with whatever club they happen to be at, they do the usual round of meeting supporters, even attending hospitals to spend time with young kids (which I applaud). But I'm in no way, shape, or form drawn into this idea that players are swayed by supporter affection if a few additional grand is on the table. If another club wants to sign one of our players, and chooses to offer £3,5, or 8 thousand more than the Blades are offering, then you don't need to be an expert in financial management to know which direction your future lies. The only course of action for United is to be active (none of this pro-active nonsense) and secure the player on terms that reflect their view of what he's worth to them, both now and over the next 2 or 3 seasons.

Of course, in Coutts case, he may appreciate what Wilder has done for his career, thus it might help discussions and enable an agreement to happen sooner rather than later. And before anyone pokes their beak in, the previous 2 seasons, where Coutts wasn't the player is today, won't count for a great deal. We're talking about what he brings to the team today, and by securing his services now how it will save us looking elsewhere and paying more than we could have avoided. A big assumption at the moment, but if we do secure promotion this season, knowing we have a player of Coutts' quality will go a long way in enabling us to establish ourselves in the Championship.
 
GroovyBrad said:
Coutts is settled in Sheffield with his family, and to be fair I would have thought we are giving him a decent wage when signed by Clough, even if we dont go up this season, we may be able to keep him on a 1 year extension along the lines of lets give it 1 more go this season and take it from there
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Neighbour?
 
Ecco1889 said:
To the tune of glad all over...

We've got our Billy,he scores all of the time,
Wilder and Knilly,they love a bottle of wine :rolleyes:
and we love..Ebanks landell
We love Ebanks landell
we love Ebanks landell,all of the time

And John Fle-eck,he never loses the ball,
Stephan scougall,he's only 3ft tall
and we love etc etc

for a small fee I may allow coutts to be slotted into the John fleck lyric,or may be tempted to write a 3rd verse:eek:
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If I offer a small fee will you delete that?
 
IMG_1092.PNG These lads all wore their hearts on their sleeves. Proper togetherness then and still is now after all these years. It was never about money but pride playing for the Blades and friendships. It's always nice hearing their stories of what they used to get up to. Blades for life
 
I liked Bradshaw as a player but to be able to split into two people on a piss up is an art form. Bradders - Shearer punching legend!
 
Bullet73 said:
View attachment 20683 These lads all wore their hearts on their sleeves. Proper togetherness then and still is now after all these years. It was never about money but pride playing for the Blades and friendships. It's always nice hearing their stories of what they used to get up to. Blades for life
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Guess what I am saying is that there are many players over the years like these old guys who although not necessarily Sheffield lads have taken the club and its supporters to heart and the supporters vice versa. If we can reach out to players like Coutts and the EEL maybe they can become the same. Yes if some other club offers them £5k a week more then they'll probably go but if they feel a bond with our club and supporters and it's only say £2k a week more they might just say "do you know what I like this club, the supporters and the atmosphere here. It's a bit special and the future looks bright so I'll stay never mind the extra money".

Probably me being ridiculous but....
 
Pinchy said:
Offer them Championship football and they're ours. Otherwise...

Couttsy is rightly getting plenty of support now. There was a clearly discernible Coooooootts when he won a 20-80 challenge against a couple of them on Sunday.

Proper footballer. ❤️ him.
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itsinyerblood said:
Maybe cynicism guides my opinion, or possibly I have a grip on reality, but the days of supporter adulation being the thing that tips a player towards remaining at a club are long gone (assuming this scenario ever existed to begin with). Every player thumps his chest, they pull at the badge as if they have a lifelong affiliation with whatever club they happen to be at, they do the usual round of meeting supporters, even attending hospitals to spend time with young kids (which I applaud). But I'm in no way, shape, or form drawn into this idea that players are swayed by supporter affection if a few additional grand is on the table. If another club wants to sign one of our players, and chooses to offer £3,5, or 8 thousand more than the Blades are offering, then you don't need to be an expert in financial management to know which direction your future lies. The only course of action for United is to be active (none of this pro-active nonsense) and secure the player on terms that reflect their view of what he's worth to them, both now and over the next 2 or 3 seasons.

Of course, in Coutts case, he may appreciate what Wilder has done for his career, thus it might help discussions and enable an agreement to happen sooner rather than later. And before anyone pokes their beak in, the previous 2 seasons, where Coutts wasn't the player is today, won't count for a great deal. We're talking about what he brings to the team today, and by securing his services now how it will save us looking elsewhere and paying more than we could have avoided. A big assumption at the moment, but if we do secure promotion this season, knowing we have a player of Coutts' quality will go a long way in enabling us to establish ourselves in the Championship.
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In the interest of prolonging the discussion: could Coutts (Or EEL for that matter) make the step up?

I must admit, other than the odd game on sky and goal highlights, I don't see a great deal of the championship these days, so I don't think I could confidently say whether either player would sink or swim.
 
Chali 2na said:
In the interest of prolonging the discussion: could Coutts (Or EEL for that matter) make the step up?

I must admit, other than the odd game on sky and goal highlights, I don't see a great deal of the championship these days, so I don't think I could confidently say whether either player would sink or swim.
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Fair point Chali 2na, we won't know, but perhaps wiser, more knowledgeable heads such as Wilder will be able to make a determination about this. Given the way Wilder has put together our current midfield I'd hope he'd know what was needed to cope at a higher level.
 
Bullet73 said:
View attachment 20683 These lads all wore their hearts on their sleeves. Proper togetherness then and still is now after all these years. It was never about money but pride playing for the Blades and friendships. It's always nice hearing their stories of what they used to get up to. Blades for life
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So, we've got L-R
Two Carl Bradshaw's, ???, Dane Whitehouse, ??? picking the scabs off the back of Dane's head, Glynn Hodges, Frenchy, Rob Scott, John Gannon, Paul Beesley

Presume Brian Gayle was taking the picture, aided and abetted by Mitch Ward?
Simon Tracey was in the casino
 



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