Dilemma Tuesday night

[mattbianco1]

I'm in Barcelona for four days. So do I go to Barcelona v Juventus on Tuesday night, cheapest tickets, in the gods €73 going up to about €250. Or do I watch Bolton v the Blades on Facebook, free from someone's phone. No brainer really is it?

Barca mate.

I had tickets for Barcelona v Granada, the night Messi broke the scoring record (also the night we put 5 past Notts C away). I was on a distributor meeting and there was an evening dinner planned. I asked the supplier (who had organised the distributor meeting) if it would look bad if I didn't turn up for the dinner. He replied yes!

So, i missed it, all of it

 

[ourbob]

Saver yer money and just get pissed instead

Check the table at 9.45pm to find we've moved up to 3rd and then get even more pissed

Won't it be only halftime in England?

....only sayin like.

 

[Sean Thornton]

It may have been, but my point was that you are wrong about not watching forums such as this one

It's not as if they need to check every day or every thread either. There are enough references to "streams" to make it a five minute job.

 

[Northyorksblade]

And this Facebook stream will be lucky to last till xmas with everybody openly discussing it.

I know I'm compounding my error in bringing it up, but there's 8,700 on our one. I imagine it's done by lots of teams through the leagues, I'm sure we're not unique. Are the powers that be really bothered?

 

[Ron_Justice]

The efl have said they are monitoring football forums for posting and talk of links. They only have to report it to Facebook for it to get shut down and the stream owner get done for copyright infringement. Eveyone who watches the stream knows who is doing it so its not hard for them to track him down.Common sense!

The Facebook streams people are referring to aren't streaming ifollow as far as I know. Just stuff with camera's from the ground. Nothing wrong with that is there?

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

The Facebook streams people are referring to aren't streaming ifollow as far as I know. Just stuff with camera's from the ground. Nothing wrong with that is there?

The same way you can openly film new releases in the Cinema right?!

 

[Ron_Justice]

The same way you can openly film new releases in the Cinema right?!

Partly, it'll come down to whether the ground is classed as a public space. Photography and filming is 100% allowed in public spaces. Not sure of the law, but if you can't take pictures in the lane/grounds, we're all fucked these days...

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

Partly, it'll come down to whether the ground is classed as a public space. Photography and filming is 100% allowed in public spaces. Not sure of the law, but if you can't take pictures in the lane/grounds, we're all fucked these days...

There's been people banned from grounds for filming and broadcasting games, so I presume it's at the discretion of the club.

 

[The Crab]

Partly, it'll come down to whether the ground is classed as a public space. Photography and filming is 100% allowed in public spaces. Not sure of the law, but if you can't take pictures in the lane/grounds, we're all fucked these days...

Not sure on club policy within the ground. I do know that for Ice Hockey games at the Arena, any sort of streaming is strictly forbidden.

 

[Blade82]

Barcalona, Sheffield united. Whats the difference?

John Fleck. Slightly better than Iniesta.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Partly, it'll come down to whether the ground is classed as a public space. Photography and filming is 100% allowed in public spaces. Not sure of the law, but if you can't take pictures in the lane/grounds, we're all fucked these days...

How is a football ground a public space? A park is a public space, a football ground is property of a company that may or may not also own the football club affiliated to that ground.

 

[Ron_Justice]

How is a football ground a public space? A park is a public space, a football ground is property of a company that may or may not also own the football club affiliated to that ground.

True, as I say it'll come down to if the ground is classed as a public space or if the clubs are willing to enforce a 'no photography' rule. Are there signs at grounds that say no photography? I've never seen one.

 

[Houston_Blade]

True, as I say it'll come down to if the ground is classed as a public space or if the clubs are willing to enforce a 'no photography' rule. Are there signs at grounds that say no photography? I've never seen one.

A football ground is private property and there aren't laws around photography at football matches, however there are agreements in place with the EFL with broadcasters (inc. Sky, ifollow and the likes of Bein over here) where live images of the match can't be shown apart from on these channels/websites. It is part of the clubs contract with the EFL each year so if the club knowingly allows it they'd be in trouble and the individual might face a slap on the wrists, fine or ban if caught.

 

[west_yorks_blade]

So how does someone who hypothetically wants to watch the alleged FB stream obtain details of said stream?

It would have been very useful for the Sunderland game and with all due respect to a poster who broadcasts RS, slightly preferable to the constant comments, coughing and dog barks that accompanied it.

 

[Ron_Justice]

A football ground is private property and there aren't laws around photography at football matches, however there are agreements in place with the EFL with broadcasters (inc. Sky, ifollow and the likes of Bein over here) where live images of the match can't be shown apart from on these channels/websites. It is part of the clubs contract with the EFL each year so if the club knowingly allows it they'd be in trouble and the individual might face a slap on the wrists, fine or ban if caught.

I don't doubt it but I have a feeling there's a great deal of 'grey' area at play here. Obviously, the fact that Facebook groups that are streaming cam footage from the grounds are hidden/private indicates people know it's shady, but it's the enforcement etc. that's the issue. YES if someone turns up with a Video Camera and 4G upload dongle, it's not going to go down well. But smartphones are so ubiquitous now and soooo many people are recording their day's out, it'd be a pretty archaic/draconian move to ban all photography / filming in the ground not to mention incredibly difficult to enforce. I suspect, that as long as it's done discreetly, no one will clamp down on it.

 

[Worksop II]

Ahem ..... SUFC play their games on a rented ground from a private individual.

How does the EFL enforce their rules on said individual ............ I reckon its KevCam doing the Streams

 

[BigBed]

So, could Nathen Thomas do a job for us tomorrow then?

 

[Houston_Blade]

So, could Nathen Thomas do a job for us tomorrow then?

I'd be impressed with that, bench cam. Beats this Facebook in the stands nonsense.

 

[super_pig]

they don't need to.. big data does it for them

 

[super_pig]

Barca mate.

I had tickets for Barcelona v Granada, the night Messi broke the scoring record (also the night we put 5 past Notts C away). I was on a distributor meeting and there was an evening dinner planned. I asked the supplier (who had organised the distributor meeting) if it would look bad if I didn't turn up for the dinner. He replied yes!

So, i missed it, all of it

bollocks to Barca as bad as Real but have Disney PR

 

[Wilderat Heart]

Taking any kind of photo while the game is on is banned. In practice however mobile phones are everywhere. When you went to the arena photography was banned but these days it's just plain unenforceable the football league owns all image rights to games. These days I suspect that they ignore filming but look at what happens after, try to make money from it and see what happens. Post a goal on Twitter that won't care publicise a streaming site and they will do their damnedest to shut you down. When I was a steward we had to prevent photography but you were allowed to take pictures before kick off of the ground

 

[I should coco]

True, as I say it'll come down to if the ground is classed as a public space or if the clubs are willing to enforce a 'no photography' rule. Are there signs at grounds that say no photography? I've never seen one.

Pretty sure when the old ground regulations were displayed on boards, it said no photography.

Now that the regulations are much longer, they are not physically displayed but still referred to on your ticket. You accept them when you purchase the ticket.

 

[Jonboy60]

A football ground is private property and there aren't laws around photography at football matches, however there are agreements in place with the EFL with broadcasters (inc. Sky, ifollow and the likes of Bein over here) where live images of the match can't be shown apart from on these channels/websites. It is part of the clubs contract with the EFL each year so if the club knowingly allows it they'd be in trouble and the individual might face a slap on the wrists, fine or ban if caught.

If I'm subscribing to sky/sports/movies with other stuff like wifi, at a cost of over £100 a month.
Am I breaking the law by watching all this stuff on my kodi/modbro firestick in my bedroom. Just asking.

 

[SUFC Guy]

I don't doubt it but I have a feeling there's a great deal of 'grey' area at play here. Obviously, the fact that Facebook groups that are streaming cam footage from the grounds are hidden/private indicates people know it's shady, but it's the enforcement etc. that's the issue. YES if someone turns up with a Video Camera and 4G upload dongle, it's not going to go down well. But smartphones are so ubiquitous now and soooo many people are recording their day's out, it'd be a pretty archaic/draconian move to ban all photography / filming in the ground not to mention incredibly difficult to enforce. I suspect, that as long as it's done discreetly, no one will clamp down on it.

 

[SUFC Guy]

If I'm subscribing to sky/sports/movies with other stuff like wifi, at a cost of over £100 a month.
Am I breaking the law by watching all this stuff on my kodi/modbro firestick in my bedroom. Just asking.

I would take a guess at Yes! Illegal method of viewing content.
You would not be accessing your paid content via an approved method.

Just my opinion of course

 

[Houston_Blade]

If I'm subscribing to sky/sports/movies with other stuff like wifi, at a cost of over £100 a month.
Am I breaking the law by watching all this stuff on my kodi/modbro firestick in my bedroom. Just asking.

Where's a lawyer when you need him. I know some about what football clubs can and can't do.

However I'd say that the likely answer to your question is "yes". However the likelihood of being caught is minimal, what might happen one day is a napster type situation where one of the companies who pay £Xbn for the rights decide it's time to put a stop to such outlaws as yourself.

I am going down a more legal route tonight as the game is on at 9:45 here so I'll buy the game on ifollow, getting up at 5am for work tomorrow might not be so easy.

 

[More Bladier than thou]

If I'm subscribing to sky/sports/movies with other stuff like wifi, at a cost of over £100 a month.
Am I breaking the law by watching all this stuff on my kodi/modbro firestick in my bedroom. Just asking.

You cant get it on mobdro or a firestick, that would mean your server has subscribed to ifollow blades if you could, absolutely nobody has been prosecuted in the uk for viewing dodgy streams.