Diego

[mosbolad]

I agree that he should be given as much chance as anyone to impress, but no more. He hasn't made the most of previous chances, that's for sure. Instead he feels sorry for himself and blames the manager, or certainly does nothing to discourage such blame.

The problem is that De Juve, his Daft Dad and his legion of admirers on here think he is some sort of special case who can by-pass the hard yards. I'm pretty sure NA wil disabuse the Boy Wonder of any such thoughts.

This doesn't quite make sense. 'He should be given as much chance as anyone' (yep, agree with that). You then go on to belittle and ridicule not just the player but his family and supporters?

You seem to reserve this condescending attitude to homegrown academy players (your previous comments with regard to young Reed). I find this rather odd as personally I always enjoy it when a local lad comes through the academy and plays for the first team.

He is clearly a young player with ability and I am sure a good supportive manager such as NA will bring out the best not just in Diego but the whole squad.

 

[blader]

Whilst he is young, he isn't THAT young for a footballer. Especially a forward. I really believe if this lad was going to be anywhere near the player some people believe him to be, he would have already established himself in t he first team by now.

Two unfruitful loans spells in the division below us for a 19 year old forward is hardly promising, and suggests the lad just doesn't have what it takes. We have had Reed, Adams, McGahey and DCL all play at a younger age than DDG last season.

Just can't see how this lad is going to make it, and I certainly don't see NA gambling our promotion prospects on him. Think he'll be in the market for 1/2 strikers to be his first choice with Adams and McNulty as back up. Diego might want to look elsewhere, maybe finally take that Juventus offer that's been on the table for years....

 

[super_pig]

Absolutely nobody is stereotyping Diego de Juve.

except you perhaps?

 

[mosbolad]

'Being a Sheff Utd fan is like being the over enthusiastic parent of the fat kid on sports day'.
Nice sentiment Blader unless that 'kid' happens to be Diego then :-

might want to look elsewhere, maybe finally take that Juventus offer that's been on the table for years....

I really have no idea how he will turn out as a player, whether that will be at United or elsewhere but I really can't understand some of this animosity.

 

[RedandWhite]

In my opinion, if he was any good, he'd be playing.

 

[Grecian2000]

I really have no idea how he will turn out as a player, whether that will be at United or elsewhere but I really can't understand some of this animosity.

I think the animosity (although I think it's mainly ambivalence) is due to him rejecting a contract.

Most supporters (not that I know 51% of our supporters bla di bla di bla) take rejection of their club by any individual quite personally and to turn down a contract and go looking elsewhere, even before establishing himself in the squad (never mind team) seems to suggest that is what he was doing.

Me personally? Meh.

 

[mosbolad]

Most supporters (not that I know 51% of our supporters bla di bla di bla) take rejection of their club by any individual quite personally

Yes good point Grecian. Maybe the rejection was not of the club as such but a rejection of the club with Clough as manager. It will be interesting to see whether he takes up the offer of a contract now we have NA as manager. I am speculating here but I can't see the terms of any contract i.e wage being that different as these weren't set by Clough (again a presumption). So any acceptance (or not) may be on how the lad feels he will develop under NA.

 

[Grecian2000]

Maybe the rejection was not of the club as such but a rejection of the club with Clough as manager.

I think that is absolutely right, and I think the "animosity" might be more forthright by those who were still supporting Clough rather than those wanting him sacked.

 

[Pinchy]

Yes good point Grecian. Maybe the rejection was not of the club as such but a rejection of the club with Clough as manager. It will be interesting to see whether he takes up the offer of a contract now we have NA as manager. I am speculating here but I can't see the terms of any contract i.e wage being that different as these weren't set by Clough (again a presumption). So any acceptance (or not) may be on how the lad feels he will develop under NA.

There's no contract for him to accept. The offer lapsed the second he rejected it. He could ask the club for a contract if he wished but that would be his "offer" and there is no obligation at all upon United to allow him the same or indeed any deal.

As I have said previously, I would reduce his wages for acting like a twat.

 

[blader]

He didn't reject Clough, he rejected the club because he's got it in his head from somewhere (and my money is on the fans who try and suck his dick over social media) that he's better than us and should be playing in our team. He went out on loan, did the square root of fuck all, and has come back to assess his options.

I have absolutely no doubt he will sign a new contract at Blades, because he will soon realise nobody better wants him and he'll come crawling back. Personally I'd tell him to shove it as it's quite apparent he won't make it. I'm sceptical that the contract offer wasn't the club slightly trying to appease the fans who are banging his drum constantly, as much as them genuinely believing he will be a key part of our squad this year.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

He didn't reject Clough, he rejected the club because he's got it in his head from somewhere (and my money is on the fans who try and suck his dick over social media) that he's better than us and should be playing in our team. He went out on loan, did the square root of fuck all, and has come back to assess his options.

I have absolutely no doubt he will sign a new contract at Blades, because he will soon realise nobody better wants him and he'll come crawling back. Personally I'd tell him to shove it as it's quite apparent he won't make it. I'm sceptical that the contract offer wasn't the club slightly trying to appease the fans who are banging his drum constantly, as much as them genuinely believing he will be a key part of our squad this year.

It's as cynical as you are Blader. They offer the contract, even if they know he'll turn it down, because without the offer he can go sign for someone else and we get FA.

 

[mosbolad]

I have absolutely no doubt he will sign a new contract at Blades

So you appear to agree that the Club see him as a player worth developing but then contradict yourself by saying:-

it's quite apparent he won't make it.

It will be interesting then to see if the Club under NA offer him a new or indeed the same contract as if it is so blatantly obvious 'he wont make it' I imagine (using your logic) then the club may well offer him square root of f##k all!

 

[wizadry]

There's no contract for him to accept. The offer lapsed the second he rejected it. He could ask the club for a contract if he wished but that would be his "offer" and there is no obligation at all upon United to allow him the same or indeed any deal.

As I have said previously, I would reduce his wages for acting like a twat.

When has he acted like a twat pinchers? From what i can recall is he wore his cap the other way round and made a comment to the media about not having played in his natural position and having to chase back all the time when that's not his game, that to me is fair enough. He's hardly sniffed coke or beat some fucker up as he.

Why should a striker have to learn other aspects of the game when he still needs to get better at what he's supposed to be doing, which is being a striker. He's not going to learn the important parts when he's out wide and having to track back all the time, he stated at the time that he wanted game time to improve on his aspects and pick up crucial minutes.

While he didn't set the world alight i reckon he will have learnt more with the loan clubs than he will while at ours under Clough.

Now he might not get a game for us next season if he was to sign but atleast we'll have some potential here and we can send him on loan where he can learn further. Or, alternatively we can act like spoilt brats and slag the fucker off for nothing.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

There's no contract for him to accept.

Didn't Clough say when the retained list was announced that the same offer to him was still on the table? Think it was in one of the Radio Sheffield interviews.

 

[mosbolad]

As I have said previously, I would reduce his wages for acting like a twat.

Have you had your wages reduced recently?

 

[finlaytheblade]

Didn't Clough say when the retained list was announced that the same offer to him was still on the table? Think it was in one of the Radio Sheffield interviews.

I think you are right lough borough unless he put it in writing I would assume. the offer is still valid. Players out of contract have until end of June to decide whether to stay or move on.his handlers would be foolish to turn it down without another contract waiting for him at
Another club.

 

[Bergen Blade]

Didn't Clough say when the retained list was announced that the same offer to him was still on the table? Think it was in one of the Radio Sheffield interviews.

An offer was made to him after the season ended. Don't know if it was the same terms as the one he rejected a few months ago.

http://www.sufc.co.uk/news/article/sheffield-united-nigel-clough-2458296.aspx

 

[metalblade]

There is sure to be a contract sat on the table waiting to be signed or in a few weeks we lose any rights to compensation. It would be prudent to offer him £50k p.a rather than lose maybe £100k compo unless that dream move to Juve is not just a dream.

 

[Bert]

A thousand quid a week for a third teamer?

 

[DazBlade88]

it's quite apparent he won't make it. I'm sceptical that the contract offer wasn't the club slightly trying to appease the fans who are banging his drum constantly, as much as them genuinely believing he will be a key part of our squad this year.

A kid at 19 years old who missed a good 18 months of development at a key age OBVIOUSLY won't make it. Jesus Christ.

Appease fans who are banging his drum? From what I've read there's not many of them any more and most would seeming prefer him to piss off so that point is completely off the mark.

Everyone on this forum knows how much I've rated this lad. When he was in full flow he was the best 16 year old I've ever seen. He was taking the piss out of lads two years older than him on a weekly basis. It's very, very unusual for Italy's national setup to ring up a lad who plays in the U18s of a third tier club, but that's how good he was and how much promise he showed and everyone who watched him (both United fans and parents of the other teams) said he was going a long way.

Yes, he's lost his way a bit. Mainly down to the injury and partly the field/disciplinary issues that seem to have happened since Clough took over, maybe the hype got to his head. Who knows, but some of the stuff that's said about him has been nothing short of embarrassing on both sides. His dad seems a genuinely nice bloke and just wants him to play football. If he thinks he can get that elsewhere then good luck to him.

Maybe a change in manager will see something completely different from him this year. Let's see if he takes the chance and get off his bloody back.

 

[Bert]

Bert also hopes that he develops into a good player.
But just one question, how many years back does your experience of watching 16 year old footballers go?

 

[itsinyerblood]

A kid at 19 years old who missed a good 18 months of development at a key age OBVIOUSLY won't make it. Jesus Christ.

Appease fans who are banging his drum? From what I've read there's not many of them any more and most would seeming prefer him to piss off so that point is completely off the mark.

Everyone on this forum knows how much I've rated this lad. When he was in full flow he was the best 16 year old I've ever seen. He was taking the piss out of lads two years older than him on a weekly basis. It's very, very unusual for Italy's national setup to ring up a lad who plays in the U18s of a third tier club, but that's how good he was and how much promise he showed and everyone who watched him (both United fans and parents of the other teams) said he was going a long way.

Yes, he's lost his way a bit. Mainly down to the injury and partly the field/disciplinary issues that seem to have happened since Clough took over, maybe the hype got to his head. Who knows, but some of the stuff that's said about him has been nothing short of embarrassing on both sides. His dad seems a genuinely nice bloke and just wants him to play football. If he thinks he can get that elsewhere then good luck to him.

Maybe a change in manager will see something completely different from him this year. Let's see if he takes the chance and get off his bloody back.

That's a fair summary Daz. I too have seen Diego play and mightily impressed I've been......but, and this is where I'm as much in the dark as other posters, whether he and his family and agent have swallowed the propaganda that seemed to emanate not that long ago, or, as you suggested, whether the injury he suffered knocked the stuffing out of him, what matters now is Diego regaining the belief and form he showed when emerging from the academy. I hope he stays, that NA lets Diego know that the page has turned and it's a new beginning for everyone, and that Diego applies himself. We could have a special talent on our hands......on the other hand there are so many ifs and buts that may have clouded this lad's future that only he will know what he wants to do, time will tell.

 

[UnitedBlade]

A kid at 19 years old who missed a good 18 months of development at a key age OBVIOUSLY won't make it. Jesus Christ.

Appease fans who are banging his drum? From what I've read there's not many of them any more and most would seeming prefer him to piss off so that point is completely off the mark.

Everyone on this forum knows how much I've rated this lad. When he was in full flow he was the best 16 year old I've ever seen. He was taking the piss out of lads two years older than him on a weekly basis. It's very, very unusual for Italy's national setup to ring up a lad who plays in the U18s of a third tier club, but that's how good he was and how much promise he showed and everyone who watched him (both United fans and parents of the other teams) said he was going a long way.

Yes, he's lost his way a bit. Mainly down to the injury and partly the field/disciplinary issues that seem to have happened since Clough took over, maybe the hype got to his head. Who knows, but some of the stuff that's said about him has been nothing short of embarrassing on both sides. His dad seems a genuinely nice bloke and just wants him to play football. If he thinks he can get that elsewhere then good luck to him.

Maybe a change in manager will see something completely different from him this year. Let's see if he takes the chance and get off his bloody back.

Hear hear.

Quickest feet i've ever seen from a home grown youngster.

The one who started behaving like a cock in the first place was Clough - refusing to release him for international duty until he was told he cannot do that.

Then making the relationship difficult because he had to back down.

Diego may not make it following the injury but he's still young enough and Adkins will encourage him and give him a chance if he sees fit.

I despair at times. Let's hope he can recover the sort of form that could be very helpful to us next season.

Support our youngsters coming through is my stance.

UTB

 

[Barney]

All evidence on this suggests Diego was hugely mis-managed by NC. NA will hopefully give him a fair shot next season, that's when Diego will show what he can do. He doesn't get called up to the Italy international squad without having a bit about him.

 

[Benny and the Blades]

Never really seen the lad but his attitude sounds a lot like Keith Edwards, a player who was big with the fans but not so big with the managers because all he ever wanted to do was score goals.
Didn't Adkins bring the best out of another of our rejects in this area , Billy Sharp ? some thing both Blackwell and Warnock couldn't manage to do so maybe if anyone is going to get the best out of him it will be our present manager ....

 

[blader]

A kid at 19 years old who missed a good 18 months of development at a key age OBVIOUSLY won't make it. Jesus Christ.

Appease fans who are banging his drum? From what I've read there's not many of them any more and most would seeming prefer him to piss off so that point is completely off the mark.

Everyone on this forum knows how much I've rated this lad. When he was in full flow he was the best 16 year old I've ever seen. He was taking the piss out of lads two years older than him on a weekly basis. It's very, very unusual for Italy's national setup to ring up a lad who plays in the U18s of a third tier club, but that's how good he was and how much promise he showed and everyone who watched him (both United fans and parents of the other teams) said he was going a long way.

Yes, he's lost his way a bit. Mainly down to the injury and partly the field/disciplinary issues that seem to have happened since Clough took over, maybe the hype got to his head. Who knows, but some of the stuff that's said about him has been nothing short of embarrassing on both sides. His dad seems a genuinely nice bloke and just wants him to play football. If he thinks he can get that elsewhere then good luck to him.

Maybe a change in manager will see something completely different from him this year. Let's see if he takes the chance and get off his bloody back.

I'm not actually 'on his back'. It's not a personal thing, and I don't care what he's like, what he says or how he acts.

It's just abundantly clear he has been overrated by so many, and it appears possibly by your good self also. All this talk of Juventus, and Italy and 'so and so' called him up so he must be good etc.

The fact is we've all seen him play a handful of first team games and do nothing. He's had two loan spells in the league below and done nothing. Sometimes you need to cut your losses and realise the lad hasn't lived up to the hype of the last year or two.

I've never had a go at Diego, as I don't know the kid and most footballers are prats anyway, so how he is is irrelevant. Maybe it's his attitude, maybe it's his injuries, we'll never know how good he could have been.

The question is what to do now. If we sign this lad up again, it must be on the assumption he is good enough to play a substantial role in this coming season. That being because he will be nearly 21 at the end of next season, and that's well into a forward's career nowadays. So, my question is, is he good enough to play a key role in our season this year? The evidence is not in his favour, and therefore I'd be inclined to let him seek first team football elsewhere. The kid may have had bundles of promise and talent as a young teen, but for whatever reason it hasn't been transposed into senior level. You only need to compare him to Che Adams, who is a year his junior, to see how far behind the level required DDG is.

 

[wizadry]

I'm not actually 'on his back'. It's not a personal thing, and I don't care what he's like, what he says or how he acts.

It's just abundantly clear he has been overrated by so many, and it appears possibly by your good self also. All this talk of Juventus, and Italy and 'so and so' called him up so he must be good etc.

The fact is we've all seen him play a handful of first team games and do nothing. He's had two loan spells in the league below and done nothing. Sometimes you need to cut your losses and realise the lad hasn't lived up to the hype of the last year or two.

I've never had a go at Diego, as I don't know the kid and most footballers are prats anyway, so how he is is irrelevant. Maybe it's his attitude, maybe it's his injuries, we'll never know how good he could have been.

The question is what to do now. If we sign this lad up again, it must be on the assumption he is good enough to play a substantial role in this coming season. That being because he will be nearly 21 at the end of next season, and that's well into a forward's career nowadays. So, my question is, is he good enough to play a key role in our season this year? The evidence is not in his favour, and therefore I'd be inclined to let him seek first team football elsewhere. The kid may have had bundles of promise and talent as a young teen, but for whatever reason it hasn't been transposed into senior level. You only need to compare him to Che Adams, who is a year his junior, to see how far behind the level required DDG is.

He's played a handful of games ffs after a bad injury, how can you write him off so early? Also, if memory serves me right, he got 4 in 8 for York in his initial spell so i wouldn't say he did fuck all. Have a look at the goals aswell, quality first touch and brilliant awareness before slotting them away with ease. Lets not let the facts get in the way of fuck all though eh.

You're not on his back? You could've fooled me.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I'm not actually 'on his back'. It's not a personal thing, and I don't care what he's like, what he says or how he acts.

It's just abundantly clear he has been overrated by so many, and it appears possibly by your good self also. All this talk of Juventus, and Italy and 'so and so' called him up so he must be good etc.

The fact is we've all seen him play a handful of first team games and do nothing. He's had two loan spells in the league below and done nothing. Sometimes you need to cut your losses and realise the lad hasn't lived up to the hype of the last year or two.

I've never had a go at Diego, as I don't know the kid and most footballers are prats anyway, so how he is is irrelevant. Maybe it's his attitude, maybe it's his injuries, we'll never know how good he could have been.

The question is what to do now. If we sign this lad up again, it must be on the assumption he is good enough to play a substantial role in this coming season. That being because he will be nearly 21 at the end of next season, and that's well into a forward's career nowadays. So, my question is, is he good enough to play a key role in our season this year? The evidence is not in his favour, and therefore I'd be inclined to let him seek first team football elsewhere. The kid may have had bundles of promise and talent as a young teen, but for whatever reason it hasn't been transposed into senior level. You only need to compare him to Che Adams, who is a year his junior, to see how far behind the level required DDG is.

Over the years Sheffield football has had young players highly rated who, for various reasons failed to make it despite huge hype. Mark Platts and Alex Higgins were standout for the Pigs for example. They also signed the England left back and captain of the under 16 side when AH played. Not forgetting the Sheffield Boys captain who signed for Man. Utd in the seventies - whose name for some reason escapes me - who was expected to be the best thing since sliced bread. I'm sure others can produce more names.

Having seen all Diegos first team games, he has a long way to go. It's a different ball game entirely.

 

[scrap]

Before the injury, a major one, He was special. Id take a chance on him, turning it around.
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[Silent Blade]

Not forgetting the Sheffield Boys captain who signed for Man. Utd in the seventies - whose name for some reason escapes me - who was expected to be the best thing since sliced bread. I'm sure others can produce more names.
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Ray Storey