Diego off

All advertisments are hidden for logged in members, why not log in/register?

The headlines on this been made up are amazing...


"
York will challenge Sunderland and Juventus to sign Sheffield United’s Diego De Girolamo, Russ Wilcox admits"

York, Sunderland, Juve
 



My guess is that he will join Bournemouth at the end of the season, or there is a small posibility he might end up at Juve. If Bournemouth had known they weren't going to get their transfer target on deadline day, he would propably be there now, that's my guess anyway from the little snippets iv'e heard.
 
Darren said:
I'm more cynical than you. If he could do any better than York, he would, hence he can't.
Click to expand...


York City manager Russ Wilcox has confirmed he will try and sign Sheffield United starlet Diego De Girolamo at the end of the season - although he concedes he probably has no chance!



Italian youth international De Girolamo is expected to leave Bramall Lane at the end of the present campaign, after failing to agree a new contract.

United, however, will be entitled to compensation for the Chesterfield-born starlet, who has rejoined York on loan but is thought to be interesting Premier League side Sunderland, and is constantly linked with Serie A giants Juventus.

Asked if York would try to land De Girolamo on a permanent basis, Wilcox smiled: “I would have thought we are struggling against Juventus and Sunderland!

“But we will give it a go. The main thing is focusing on this season and making sure we get away from the bottom end as quickly as we can. We will then sit down in the summer and re-evaluate.

“But right now, we have got a hungry player who knows that these next ten weeks, and the next 15 games, are really important.

“Hopefully we can benefit from that. It is great for all parties. We have got him back and Diego has turned down other options to come back to York. That’s how much he has enjoyed it. It shows we are are trying to do things right.

“That’s important and it is great to get a player of his calibre back in the building.”
Click to expand...
 
Grecian2000 said:
Well that's that deal dead in the water if Diego's "advisors" read the comments at the end suggesting the Sunderland Development squad is one large "black hole" as he only wants to go to get games!
Click to expand...

Indeed. IF he is pissed off at not getting games at United, his chances of getting games at Sunderland are infinitely less...
 
EddieColquhoun said:
Except for York's manager, there are another 91 managers who don't seem too bothered.
Click to expand...
Except for the several clubs that a are being linked with him you mean. Other than that, no they aren't because it's a 19 year old that hasn't had jack shit for game time yet. How many managers do you know of that are sniffing around Louis Reed by the way and is this a barometer of whether we should be releasing him yet?

Darren said:
As Pinchy has said, SUFC is not some kids' club where every youngster "gets a chance", He has played in a handful of first team games and has looked nothing special and (one assumes) when he has been observed in training he has also not looked anything special.

The only adult level at which he has looked reasonable is the 4th Division and, nown he is apparently on his way out, only a 4th division club are willing to take him on loan. Put it this way: if he was as great as some people seem to think, now would be an ideal time for a top two tier team to loan him, stick him in their reserves and assess him with a view to signing him in the summer if he impresses. I wonder why no PL or 2nd Div team is taking that virtually risk free option?
Click to expand...
So why in God's name do we invest in an academy then Darren if, after several years of work, 136 minutes of competitive football is deemed enough of a chance to judge and a return of 1 goal and 1 assist in that time is not enough to earn more? If this is normal policy then it sounds like a waste.

I actually think we do ok with feeding a sensible level of youth players into the first team. Only a few academy players will get a chance, but this is hardly a position that's been occupied with talented, proven or form players. Its not exactly Kennedy trying to break into the Maguire-Collins partnership.

And when you say 'one assumes' about training, what you're actually implying is that you have no idea but you're going to make up whichever argument suits your preferred conclusion.

We'll see what happens with him over the next few months but it might be the case that his development has been a bit stunted by lack of game time. I'd be a bit surprised if a major English club came in for him at this point.
 
DI36O said:
Except for the several clubs that a are being linked with him you mean. Other than that, no they aren't because it's a 19 year old that hasn't had jack shit for game time yet. How many managers do you know of that are sniffing around Louis Reed by the way and is this a barometer of whether we should be releasing him yet?


So why in God's name do we invest in an academy then Darren if, after several years of work, 136 minutes of competitive football is deemed enough of a chance to judge and a return of 1 goal and 1 assist in that time is not enough to earn more? If this is normal policy then it sounds like a waste.

I actually think we do ok with feeding a sensible level of youth players into the first team. Only a few academy players will get a chance, but this is hardly a position that's been occupied with talented, proven or form players. Its not exactly Kennedy trying to break into the Maguire-Collins partnership.

And when you say 'one assumes' about training, what you're actually implying is that you have no idea but you're going to make up whichever argument suits your preferred conclusion.

We'll see what happens with him over the next few months but it might be the case that his development has been a bit stunted by lack of game time. I'd be a bit surprised if a major English club came in for him at this point.
Click to expand...

He has played tons of U21 and U18 games and done tons of training in front of the manager and has not been thought good enough for a regular first team place. He has hardly set the third division alight when he has played and the 4th division appears to be his level.

Those are the facts. I prefer to base my judgment on those rather than on the idea that we have to keep giving young players "a chance" until the cows come home.
 
DI36O said:
Except for the several clubs that a are being linked with him you mean. Other than that, no they aren't because it's a 19 year old that hasn't had jack shit for game time yet. How many managers do you know of that are sniffing around Louis Reed by the way and is this a barometer of whether we should be releasing him yet?


So why in God's name do we invest in an academy then Darren if, after several years of work, 136 minutes of competitive football is deemed enough of a chance to judge and a return of 1 goal and 1 assist in that time is not enough to earn more? If this is normal policy then it sounds like a waste.

I actually think we do ok with feeding a sensible level of youth players into the first team. Only a few academy players will get a chance, but this is hardly a position that's been occupied with talented, proven or form players. Its not exactly Kennedy trying to break into the Maguire-Collins partnership.

And when you say 'one assumes' about training, what you're actually implying is that you have no idea but you're going to make up whichever argument suits your preferred conclusion.

We'll see what happens with him over the next few months but it might be the case that his development has been a bit stunted by lack of game time. I'd be a bit surprised if a major English club came in for him at this point.
Click to expand...
Surely it he who has judged United ,we offered him a contract.
 
moDtheGod said:
Why only 1p? You're worse than Hills!

If you believe in your estimate, you'll gobble up my money, surely?
Click to expand...

Not all of us are gambling addicts. :)

I don't want to risk even a 1% chance of losing £500 for a gain of £5
 
Addiction has nothing to do with it, it's common sense. If I gave you 3/1 about a coin flip, you would seriously turn me down?
 
Darren said:
He has played tons of U21 and U18 games and done tons of training in front of the manager and has not been thought good enough for a regular first team place. He has hardly set the third division alight when he has played and the 4th division appears to be his level.

Those are the facts. I prefer to base my judgment on those rather than on the idea that we have to keep giving young players "a chance" until the cows come home.
Click to expand...

I prefer to be guided by the fact that ever single comment I could find from York fans were 100% positive.
They at least have actually seen him play competitive league matches.
http://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/view-from-york-city-on-ddg.38277/

ALL York fans again 100% positive on him returning..
Some were completely ecstatic!
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/sport/yo..._Diego_De_Girolamo_rejoins_York_City/?ref=mac
 
TarquinDelouche said:
Is nobody tired of talking about a player who has barely even played for us? .
Click to expand...

Too true.
I am heartily sick of our managers fixations on such as O'Grady.
FFS could have signed here but chose to move himself and his family to the other side of the country for the big bucks.
Time to move on 6 months ago
NOT throw ludicrous money at it like Brayford.
 
MiserableBlader said:
Too true.
I am heartily sick of our managers fixations on such as O'Grady.
FFS could have signed here but chose to move himself and his family to the other side of the country for the big bucks.
Time to move on 6 months ago
NOT throw ludicrous money at it like Brayford.
Click to expand...

I'm not heartily sick of anything about our excellent manager, Nigel Clough. I approve of him trying to recruit good players to improve our team.

I do feel [very] slightly nauseous when people manufacture something to whinge about at a time when any sensible Blade is pretty happy. Then I remind myself they are talking bollocks and I feel fine again.
 



DI36O said:
So injury time or 10 minutes as a sub shoved on the wing counts as an opportunity now? Get real.

His record at both York and here of a goal every game and a half is somewhere between 'good' and 'not enough to judge on'. Their fans online were disappointed to see him go back.

Besides, how many ineffective performances have we endured with Higdon, McNulty and Baxter playing as a striker? Countless.

What I'm saying is just because Clough won't give him games doesn't tell you anything about his ability, attitude, performance in training because we see other players ostracised by the manager. It's a character trait I'm happy to accept as part of the package but no need to go making assumptions and slating a youth player.
Click to expand...

I haven't seen this included but I haven't read all this largely stupid, bigoted, shit that hates every young player at the club.

"York brought me in and gave me a chance. Russ Wilcox has been brilliant with me.

At Sheffield United I felt that no matter how many times I was told they were going to give me a chance, there was no way I was going to get it. I had to decide to leave the club at the end of the season."

As I said before.
He signed his last contract - after they said he could leave! - on the basis he would get more games here than such as the Manchester clubs.

Fool me once shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.

Any fair minded person can see he had to leave.
Like so many others :(
 
MiserableBlader said:
I haven't seen this included but I haven't read all this largely stupid, bigoted, shit that hates every young player at the club.

"York brought me in and gave me a chance. Russ Wilcox has been brilliant with me.

At Sheffield United I felt that no matter how many times I was told they were going to give me a chance, there was no way I was going to get it. I had to decide to leave the club at the end of the season."

As I said before.
He signed his last contract - after they said he could leave! - on the basis he would get more games here than such as the Manchester clubs.

Fool me once shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.

Any fair minded person can see he had to leave.
Like so many others :(
Click to expand...

left the link out - for any that want to at least contemplate that there are two sides to every story
and not delude themselves with ludicrous concepts of 'excellence' and presumably infallibility on one side.

http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/sport/11...o___York_City_would_be_a_great_place_for_me_/
 
Although not completely surprised, I do find the willingness, even gullibility, of some of our supporters to readily embrace Diego's carefully orchestrated version a bit underwhelming.

It's as if the opinion of Clough is questioned because all this innocent wants is to play football? So York fans are ecstatic at Diego's return? You would be if a player from Sheffield United were coming to you. I've seen Diego play. Yes, a young lad with talent, as so many have been before, and so many will be long after Diego's career has finished. A scripted tweet to suggest that all he wants is to play football, straight out of a marketeer's glib machinations, and the response is one of moist-eyed surrender to a young lad with a dad living his life through his boy and probably someone from a team of note conducting how this is handled.

The cries of 'all the young lad wants.....' have become excuses for not wanting to at least understand that in all of this Diego and his dad have been unable to convince Clough about Diego's role is United's current situation. DDG has played under Clough, but unlike the junior games I've seen him play, Diego hasn't responded in the way, say, Done has hit the ground running. If we had a genuine wunder-kid, one such as the 16-year-old Norwegian Martin Odegaard recently signed to Real Madrid, I doubt anyone would wonder that a young player had chosen to move to a club with great european tradition. As things stand we have what might possibly be, a young, petulant, boy, prepared to act out a scene from someone else's idea of what is or isn't best for him. Well it was Diego (no doubt guided by father and agent) who chose to reject United's offer of a new contract. Life moves on, so do pages in the sport's section of a newspaper, as does a player's career.

Let's see how the boy fares in future.....and as the above post suggests, there are two sides to every story.
 
Last edited:
Personally I don't think its worth giving up on him yet, everybody seems quick to write him off but don't forget he's young and I don't think his decisions are 100% his, but more the decisions of a money-grabbing father in my opinion. He's given a small glimpse of what he's capable of and he isn't overly impressive so far but with limited opportunities I think he's done alright.
I just think he needs better guidance to see that the big opportunity is what Sheffield United are offering. When his 'advisors' come to their senses they'll send him crawling back and I hope it wont be too late for him.
 
KingSlayers said:
Personally I don't think its worth giving up on him yet, everybody seems quick to write him off but don't forget he's young and I don't think his decisions are 100% his, but more the decisions of a money-grabbing father in my opinion. He's given a small glimpse of what he's capable of and he isn't overly impressive so far but with limited opportunities I think he's done alright.
I just think he needs better guidance to see that the big opportunity is what Sheffield United are offering. When his 'advisors' come to their senses they'll send him crawling back and I hope it wont be too late for him.
Click to expand...

You know the old saying ? 'You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink' I do agree that the lad is misguided and should stay.
 
Diego wants to leave SUFC, for whatever reason, its his choice. Whether that works or for him, time will tell. Its his life and his career and nobody has the right to tell him how to live it. It may got tits up and he'll end up on the building sites with the other 'I had trials ya'know' brigade but its his call regardless of who is/isn't advising him.

There is more than a hint of arrogance here that SUFC is his only option to forge a life as a professional footballer. The slagging of his father is based on nothing but tittle tattle and heresay. Its the he said she said stuff that's given Jeremy Kyle a career.
 
moDtheGod said:
Addiction has nothing to do with it, it's common sense. If I gave you 3/1 about a coin flip, you would seriously turn me down?
Click to expand...

Depends how much was at stake. If it was more than £5, yes I would.

Seriously, not everyone has the same mentality re risk and gambling as you.
 
Davie Blade said:
I prefer to be guided by the fact that ever single comment I could find from York fans were 100% positive.
They at least have actually seen him play competitive league matches.
http://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/view-from-york-city-on-ddg.38277/

ALL York fans again 100% positive on him returning..
Some were completely ecstatic!
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/sport/yo..._Diego_De_Girolamo_rejoins_York_City/?ref=mac
Click to expand...

How does that contradict what I say - that his level is the 4th Division?
 
Davie Blade said:
Didn't read any of their comments then?

Is the 1p 100 to 1 bet open to all?
Click to expand...

Fans of a 4th Division team think he is good. No surprises there.

It's not really worth me standing to gain £1 from a 100 people where there is a slight chance I may have to pay out £100. Hence, the bet is open to the first 5 people to take it up. In fact, you don't even have to give me the 1p. I will gladly pay you £1 if DDG joins a first or second tier club before the start of next season.
 
itsinyerblood said:
Although not completely surprised, I do find the willingness, even gullibility, of some of our supporters to readily embrace Diego's carefully orchestrated version a bit underwhelming.

It's as if the opinion of Clough is questioned because all this innocent wants is to play football? So York fans are ecstatic at Diego's return? You would be if a player from Sheffield United were coming to you. I've seen Diego play. Yes, a young lad with talent, as so many have been before, and so many will be long after Diego's career has finished. A scripted tweet to suggest that all he wants is to play football, straight out of a marketeer's glib machinations, and the response is one of moist-eyed surrender to a young lad with a dad living his life through his boy and probably someone from a team of note conducting how this is handled.

The cries of 'all the young lad wants.....' have become excuses for not wanting to at least understand that in all of this Diego and his dad have been unable to convince Clough about Diego's role is United's current situation. DDG has played under Clough, but unlike the junior games I've seen him play, Diego hasn't responded in the way, say, Done has hit the ground running. If we had a genuine wunder-kid, one such as the 16-year-old Norwegian Martin Odegaard recently signed to Real Madrid, I doubt anyone would wonder that a young player had chosen to move to a club with great european tradition. As things stand we have what might possibly be, a young, petulant, boy, prepared to act out a scene from someone else's idea of what is or isn't best for him. Well it was Diego (no doubt guided by father and agent) who chose to reject United's offer of a new contract. Life moves on, so do pages in the sport's section of a newspaper, as does a player's career.

Let's see how the boy fares in future.....and as the above post suggests, there are two sides to every story.
Click to expand...

Are you really comparing Diego with a seasoned professional Matt Done who, on entering our team was already one of the divisions leading scorers ?. Don't all footballers want to play football ?. Wasn't long ago. that most of us were crying out for Diego to be brought into the team, praying for his quick recovery, now he wants to leave he is a hate figure. It does appear to me that he is not going to be given any reasonable type of chance here, although his appearances haven't exactly set the world alight, I couldn't see why he wasn't worth at least a place on the bench more regularly. For those who think he is some kind of glory hunter with a big ego, I believe he will not have his head turned by the Sunderland/Juventus rubbish, and expect to see him sign permanent for York in an effort to establish himself.
 



i hope he goes to York.. bangs a few goals in.. gets his shit together and becomes mature enough to tell whoever his bending his ear to push off and then come back and have a great career at the mighty blades
reading some of the comments here i can only think 'blimey.. we're a fickle bunch'.. let's not get into the Aston Villa league please
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Harry's Game
Free agent goal keepers
Replies
4
Views
365
Harry's Game
Harry's Game
PaulPeschBlade
Break the Bank for Gustavo
2
Replies
58
Views
4K
CPB
C
Kozzy_is_my_Dad
Where has it started to go wrong?
Replies
27
Views
3K
Tom Bott
Tom Bott
Jon Bon II
The 'F**k Off Home' chant
2
Replies
31
Views
4K
Nosworthys Throw
Nosworthys Throw
G
Wilder skulking off at the end of the game
10 11 12
Replies
348
Views
34K
Greenwich Blade
Greenwich Blade

All advertisments are hidden for logged in members, why not log in/register?

All advertisments are hidden for logged in members, why not log in/register?

Back
Top Bottom