David McGoildrick

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I really rated McG early doors but must admit that he has gone off the boil in recent matches, particularly in the 2nd half. Looks like he needs a rest to me but we don’t have that luxury at the moment.
 
Looking at our recent "slump" we've lost 1in 6 to a goal keeping error.
The 3 we have lost in the last 14 have all been odd goal defeats to top 6 sides
We are 3rd on gd . So not that bad at scoring
5 other clubs in the top 6 have all spent at least 8 times more than we have

And still people moan

We will never be good enough for some
The day we beat Man City 7-1 some will only discuss the goal we let in
 
Sheffsteel said:
At Ipswich McGoldrick and Waghorn we’re rated similiar.
I know an Ipswich and he says he’d rate McG as a better player than Waghorn but Waghorn is more able to score goals.

It’s the terrible injury record that lowers McG salary, not his quality.
His build up play and intelligence is up there with the best in the Championship, he’s never been prolific.
If he had pace and could score a few he’d be a regular in the PL.

Agree that if a team is aiming for top 2 then McG should be a really good back up striker, mainly because my Ipswich friend assures me he won’t last and will soon pick up an injury.
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I agree with most of that, except, I don’t think he’s a striker. He’s not selfish enough or clinical enough.

He’s a good attacking midfielder. His ball skills are good. His first touch is often excellent. But he hasn’t got that calm, killer instinct, on goal.

I think his injury problems at Ipswich are related to his motivation to travel 3 hours or more to training.

He sounds like a decent family man and being away from his Nottingham home to turn out for a poor and hopeless East Anglian team can’t have been the biggest incentive to roll back the bedcovers.
 
Cerberus Blade said:
I agree with most of that, except, I don’t think he’s a striker. He’s not selfish enough or clinical enough.

He’s a good attacking midfielder. His ball skills are good. His first touch is often excellent. But he hasn’t got that calm, killer instinct, on goal.
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Think that’s a good summary. That’s probably what causes the division of opinion.

Judge McG as a striker then he’s below average for this division.
Judge McG as an allround offensive footballer and he’s definitely above average for this division.
 
hardytm2004 said:
Considering he was free and won’t be on massive wages - he’s been an absolute gem. Let’s not forget this isn’t a multi million pound Martin Waghorn signing. McGoldrick should only really be a v. good squad player, his performances probably made us less desperate to get a top striker at the end of the window
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He's already scored more than Waghorn, good signing like you say.
 
blade too long said:
Looking at our recent "slump" we've lost 1in 6 to a goal keeping error.
The 3 we have lost in the last 14 have all been odd goal defeats to top 6 sides
We are 3rd on gd . So not that bad at scoring
5 other clubs in the top 6 have all spent at least 8 times more than we have

And still people moan

We will never be good enough for some
The day we beat Man City 7-1 some will only discuss the goal we let in
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And most people established many years ago that you are certifiably insane.
 
Jehovah said:
0-2 away, clean sheet, much needed win and we get this bullshit thread.I'm still in reading, I love his baldness. Fuck you
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I'm so happy for you.

I offer my deepest condolences to you when we come up against a team who are half decent and we don't win.
 
I think he has a great touch, good hold up play, and brings people into the game well. He helps us get up the pitch. He has great technical ability and has the skills to make half-chances for himself.

That said, he lacks threat. Doesn’t directly create many chances, and probably has the worst record in the league in terms of taking chances. He’s only added to that today. He doesn’t seem able to leather it, hence things like the “lob”, and while the offside goal was a lovely finish, it’s a lot easier to do that finish when you’re standing well offside, on your own, waiting for the ball. A proper full-on striker would be in line, anticipating, and busting a gut to meet the cross.

He’s a forward, basically, not a striker.

Saying that, he’s integral to how we play when we play well, particularly if Duffy isn’t playing, or when Duffy is marked out of the game, like against Leeds. He comes back for the ball, he holds it up, and he brings others into play. It’s a shame he’s missed so many good chances, and he needs to do better in that area, and if we can improve in January, then great, but to me he still contributes a lot to the side, and I’d argue undeserving of the somewhat “click-baity” nature of the OP.
 

Just a general tip..

If you want your praise of the team to actually be taken seriously, it's a good idea to also criticise the team every once in a while.

Likewise..

If you want your criticisms of the team/players to be taken seriously, it's a good idea to actually praise them sometimes as well.

I mean, we're only 3rd in the league right now. Call me crazy but maybe, just maybe, our judgements of team/players should reflect this.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
Would have been great if he was onside. The fact is he's a rubbish striker, if he was a good striker he would have us top of the league. He needs replacing in January.
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Could say that for any striker . Man Utd would be top of the prem if their strikers took every chance. We lost to Leeds due to a horrendous cock up at the back . We are 3rd with what we have . We are batting way above our expectations.
 
tomtheblade said:
Just a general tip..

If you want your praise of the team to actually be taken seriously, it's a good idea to also criticise the team every once in a while.

Likewise..

If you want your criticisms of the team/players to be taken seriously, it's a good idea to actually praise them sometimes as well.

I mean, we're only 3rd in the league right now. Call me crazy but maybe, just maybe, our judgements of team/players should reflect this.
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I have a microscope which I use to examine the Sheffield United games. It has 2 lenses that I use. One lens is called "the results lens". To be honest, it's not my favourite lens this one, because it's not a very clear picture through it. When we win everything looks good. When we lose everything looks bad. If we draw it will often be a bit of both. I prefer not to use this lens, but to use my other lens, which is called "the performance lens".

Here's what I see when I look at Sheffield United through the performance lens:

The performances over the past couple of months, in general, haven't been great. I'd make an exception for the Sheffield derby, where I thought the performance was absolutely superb. But that game apart, you have to go right back to the beginning of October and the away performance at Blackburn, to find a game where we've really performed well for 90 minutes. The thing about looking through the performance lens is that it is a predictor of what is to come. So, it should be no surprise to anyone, if they've been observing performances rather than results, that we've lost ground over recent weeks - indeed the form table confirms that. And that's another important thing to look at btw. The form table tells you how your performances have been and is a predictor of future results over a longer period.

When I look at individuals through the performance lens, rather than the results lens, I also get a very different picture. If we take David McGoaldrought, for example...I see a very talented, hard-working, footballer with good ball skills who makes a great contribution to the team. But when I look at him through the "results" lens, I see a bloke that can't score goals for monkey nuts.

We won yesterday. Hooray! I looked at the match afterwards through my "results" lens and it looks great. The win takes us up to 3rd and I'm happy again. But when I looked at the match through my performance lens I saw a pretty poor performance overall and therefore I'm keeping my feet on the ground a bit. The win and the league position is an irrelevance at this point in time. What's more important is that the performance wasn't good enough to sustain a challenge from this group of players in the top 6. So, there is plenty of room for improvement, but we cannot expect Wilder to keep pulling rabbits out of a hat.
 
Maybe i'm a bit slow but didn't realise he had 4 games for Pigs in 2011. As Manny on here have said already, think some of his play in middle of the park is excellent but his finishing is woeful.
 
I think McGoldrick is great, very talented and offers what our other strikers struggle to do. The others can’t beat a man or create there own space as well as him. It’s the reason he gets so many chances to miss. If he gets a good run of confidence then he could potentially score a lot more than the rest of our strikers who themselves miss there fair share of chances. Even Sharp who gets praised for being so clinical misses at least one great chance per game.

We wouldn’t be able to sign a prolific McGoldrick for 10m never mind for free.
 
With the fans he’s like marmite. I find him frustrating because of his finishing but he always puts a shift in and is in the thick of things.
 
Its a strange situation.
He's popping up in positions where he should score so that suggests that he IS a natural striker
But his finishing suggests that he isn't
 
blade too long said:
Could say that for any striker . Man Utd would be top of the prem if their strikers took every chance. We lost to Leeds due to a horrendous cock up at the back . We are 3rd with what we have . We are batting way above our expectations.
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We also lost to Leeds because McGoldrick missed an absolute sitter. Again.
 
haich1889 said:
Maybe i'm a bit slow but didn't realise he had 4 games for Pigs in 2011. As Manny on here have said already, think some of his play in middle of the park is excellent but his finishing is woeful.
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He almost played against us for Wednesday in the Steel City Derby but he was recalled by Forest a week earlier.
 

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