David McGoildrick

[blade too long]

We also lost to Leeds because McGoldrick missed an absolute sitter. Again.

well rotherham should have beaten us if they hadnt missed so many

strikers miss chances every game , all of them
we won the game, dont know what you want ,,,, 6-0 every game suffice ,
some in here are getting a bit wednesday in their expectations it seems
we paid 4m for Beattie he missed just as many

Deane missed plenty
Agana missed bucket loads
keith EDWARDS MISSED OODLES

Its football

 

[Sheff de party]

He's a very good footballer, anyone questioning that has an agenda or doesn't understand football.

It's fair to question whether he deserves his place in our side, every player should be subject to that and no one guaranteed their place.

I'm in the camp that says he brings enough to our game that even with some missed sitters, he deserves his place.

I despair at anyone on this thread writing him off as a bad player.

Exactly how I see it. He’s very, very clever and makes us tick in a way none of our other strikers do. I’m amazed people can’t see how good he is.

Yes he should score more goals, but we could say that about anyone other than Sharp really (and Bash who scores well for a centre half).

 

[tomtheblade]

I have a microscope which I use to examine the Sheffield United games. It has 2 lenses that I use. One lens is called "the results lens". To be honest, it's not my favourite lens this one, because it's not a very clear picture through it. When we win everything looks good. When we lose everything looks bad. If we draw it will often be a bit of both. I prefer not to use this lens, but to use my other lens, which is called "the performance lens".

Here's what I see when I look at Sheffield United through the performance lens:

The performances over the past couple of months, in general, haven't been great. I'd make an exception for the Sheffield derby, where I thought the performance was absolutely superb. But that game apart, you have to go right back to the beginning of October and the away performance at Blackburn, to find a game where we've really performed well for 90 minutes. The thing about looking through the performance lens is that it is a predictor of what is to come. So, it should be no surprise to anyone, if they've been observing performances rather than results, that we've lost ground over recent weeks - indeed the form table confirms that. And that's another important thing to look at btw. The form table tells you how your performances have been and is a predictor of future results over a longer period.

When I look at individuals through the performance lens, rather than the results lens, I also get a very different picture. If we take David McGoaldrought, for example...I see a very talented, hard-working, footballer with good ball skills who makes a great contribution to the team. But when I look at him through the "results" lens, I see a bloke that can't score goals for monkey nuts.

We won yesterday. Hooray! I looked at the match afterwards through my "results" lens and it looks great. The win takes us up to 3rd and I'm happy again. But when I looked at the match through my performance lens I saw a pretty poor performance overall and therefore I'm keeping my feet on the ground a bit. The win and the league position is an irrelevance at this point in time. What's more important is that the performance wasn't good enough to sustain a challenge from this group of players in the top 6. So, there is plenty of room for improvement, but we cannot expect Wilder to keep pulling rabbits out of a hat.

That's totally fair. I may not agree with all of your points or conclusions but your post contains nuance and a balance of positives and negatives.

I much prefer this approach to endlessly criticising or endlessly praising the team. That other approach shows a lack of thought in analysis.

I understand your point about the two lenses. I think its necessary to consider both.

 

[HighfieldBlade]

I like what Goldy did in the build up to the second goal. He had loads of time to cross the ball into the box but he saw there was only Billy there in with the Reading defenders. He allowed the ball to run out of play which not only runs the clock down, it also lets more of our players move up into the box for the corner and press for a second goal. Footballing brain.

 

[Guesty]

well rotherham should have beaten us if they hadnt missed so many

strikers miss chances every game , all of them
we won the game, dont know what you want ,,,, 6-0 every game suffice ,
some in here are getting a bit wednesday in their expectations it seems
we paid 4m for Beattie he missed just as many

Deane missed plenty
Agana missed bucket loads
keith EDWARDS MISSED OODLES

Its football

But McGoldrick is missing a golden chance ecery single game at the moment, without scoring. Because, as others have pointed out, he's a poor finisher.

 

[5tannington Blade]

I actually rated Donaldson, Sunderland and Villa away were fantastic finishes and performances. I think his sub appearances at home towards the end of the season frustrated a lot of Blades fans.

That being said McGoldrick is a massive upgrade. Both are 50K/freebie signings though and they gave us a lot more than we expected. Need to get off the lads back

 

[BladeTillIDie]

A strikers job is to score goals. That's what they get judged on... well I thought it was.

 

[Sean Thornton]

PeterNdlovu081
Doesn't offer much
Doesn't assist

Discuss...

"Oh, Wensdeh he loves you"

 

[wavy-blade]

appearances and goals ( in brackets )
2004 Notts County 4 (0)
2004–2009 Southampton 64 (12)
2005 → Notts County (loan) 6 (0)
2007 → Bournemouth (loan) 12 (6)
2007–2008 → Port Vale (loan) 17 (2)
2009–2013 Nottingham Forest 63 (8)
2011 → Sheffield Wednesday (loan) 4 (1)
2012–2013 → Coventry City (loan) 22 (16)
2013 → Ipswich Town (loan) 13 (4)
2013–2018 Ipswich Town 133 (36)
2018– Sheffield United 21 (5)
I like McGoldrick , we should stick with him !!

 

[blade too long]

But McGoldrick is missing a golden chance ecery single game at the moment, without scoring. Because, as others have pointed out, he's a poor finisher.

again as have thousands of other forwards

 

[DifferentClass]

Don't like McGoldrick? Racist.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Maybe i'm a bit slow but didn't realise he had 4 games for Pigs in 2011. As Manny on here have said already, think some of his play in middle of the park is excellent but his finishing is woeful.

Manny?

You mean the ex-rabbi who once played for us? Could have chosen the pigs but the fact that they'd never be clean and loved a pork pie....well it would have been like that if only.

 

[snootyfenooty]

The comments comparing Goldy with other strikers who have lean spells is ridiculous. They also have fruitful spells which Goldy doesn't. If Billy doesn't score, then we can't depend on the other strikers to do so and this has been our failing in recent games. We can't keep relying on Bash, Egan or o.g. to pop up and keep doing what our alternative strikers should be doing. Washington, Goldy and Clarke won't get double figures between the three of them for the rest of the season and this could be our undoing. Hopefully this will be sorted out in the JTW.

 

[Guesty]

again as have thousands of other forwards

And most would have been dropped for it.

 

[Trigger Blade]

Yeah but what about McGoldrick?

He doesn’t score enough goils

 

[Pinchy]

I'd give 100%.

Can I play next week?

Oh dear, have you escaped from that Football Referral Unit again? Naughty boy, Peter.

How can you possibly hope to complete (or even begin) your football education when you refuse to co-operate with those who want to help you.

We’ll have to consider secure accommodation if this goes on.

 

[Pinchy]

This sir , has to be ur worst post !

Good Pele no! I’m not having that. Have you seen his back catalogue?

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Oh dear, have you escaped from that Football Referral Unit again? Naughty boy, Peter.

How can you possibly hope to complete (or even begin) your football education when you refuse to co-operate with those who want to help you.

We’ll have to consider secure accommodation if this goes on.

Any tin-lake for thee?

 

[Pinchy]

Some own-goals though...

Dozens of missed points.

 

[Pinchy]

Thats him off to a tee though.
When he got ahead of the ball into an offside position it meant he had to do the elaborate, and scored.

If he'd kept himself onside and had to slide to make contact with the ball from half a yard further away he'd have missed it or hit the goalie with it
Finishing isn't his thing unfortunately

Sharp was also offside when he scored. The only difference was the linesman spotted one and not the other.

 

[Pinchy]

Any bit you posted in this thread.

Two prominent attention-seekers join force in a single thread. They must be sharing the brain cell. To me; To you.

 

[Pinchy]

We also lost to Leeds because McGoldrick missed an absolute sitter. Again.

So did Sharp but we’re not allowed to notice that. He missed one yesterday as well and his goal was as offside as Goldy’s. One was given; the other not. Fine margins. Let’s stop treating some players as protected species and others as fair game for stick. Fleck, for example, deserves to lose his place for a while but it seems he’s as untouchable as Sharp.

Not while I’m around, fortunately.

 

[Snowman]

Two prominent attention-seekers join force in a single thread. They must be sharing the brain cell. To me; To you.

Never thought of myself as an attention seeker. Must try harder.

 

[Bladesman]

Never thought of myself as an attention seeker. Must try harder.

Don't feed the troll.

 

[highgreenintokyo]

Sharp was also offside when he scored. The only difference was the linesman spotted one and not the other.

I was wondering about that. That means McG did get some of his head on it?

I think I’d still argue there’s a difference, though. McG could see he was in front of the defensive line (I guess he was hoping the defender behind him was playing him on), wheras Sharp was anticipating and busting a gut to get in front of his man. He’s only offside (if he actually is; I haven’t seen it back) as McG touches it with his head 0.2 or so seconds earlier.

 

[Guesty]

So did Sharp but we’re not allowed to notice that. He missed one yesterday as well and his goal was as offside as Goldy’s. One was given; the other not. Fine margins. Let’s stop treating some players as protected species and others as fair game for stick. Fleck, for example, deserves to lose his place for a while but it seems he’s as untouchable as Sharp.

Not while I’m around, fortunately.

Sharp did miss a very good chance against Leeds, but it wasn't as egregious a miss as McGoldrick's, who had half an hour to pick his spot against a desperately scrambling 'keeper and still blew it. After his preposterous miss against Rotherham and his aberration against the other lot, it's quite reasonable to wonder if he might not be the man to fire a promotion challenge.

I do realise that the reason McGoldrick even took the last penalty is because Sharp had previously missed one. Billy Sharp is far from perfect. He has however built up a lifetime of good will by delivery the goods down the last four seasons. McGoldrick's current legacy is one of costing us wins against hated rivals. It's OK though because what he does bring to the team is his marvellous link-up play, which in the last four games largely consists of him holding off a defender long enough to play a backwards pass.

Edit: I agree 100% about Fleck. Problem is, we don't have much in the way of a replacement for him at the moment, not unless we change formation a little.

 

[wizadry]

Sharp was also offside when he scored. The only difference was the linesman spotted one and not the other.

Sharp wasn’t offside.

So did Sharp but we’re not allowed to notice that. He missed one yesterday as well and his goal was as offside as Goldy’s. One was given; the other not. Fine margins. Let’s stop treating some players as protected species and others as fair game for stick. Fleck, for example, deserves to lose his place for a while but it seems he’s as untouchable as Sharp.

Not while I’m around, fortunately.

Sharps’ chance yesterday what he missed wasn’t a sitter, the one against Leeds was by his high standards.

It’s a good job Billy was behind Goldy because he missed the ball completely.

Goldy could do with one going in off his arse, hopefully that will see his confidence in finishing chances off rise to be a lot higher than it currently is. Goldy will be glad that Billy saved the day yesterday, that is for sure.

Fleck only deserves to lose his place when someone’s as good in the position he plays, we don’t currently have that. Flecks delivery for Billy’s chance was a great delivery by the way and he also put a great delivery in for our second goal so how about have a bit of respect for one of the best midfielders to grace our turf in many a year? He won’t play fantastic every week!

You talk about agendas people have pinchy but you seem to have one against Fleck and you can’t wait to slate Billy just because he’s a Bladeyblade or whatever it is you call them.

Agendas? Not while I’m around, fortunately.

 

[blade too long]

And most would have been dropped for it.

Trouble is theres no balaance in your view, Your focusing on things that are negative and not seeing his positives . Wilder picks him as he looks at the whole package dis passionately . Professional football is about what you give to the team .a missed chance is 2 seconds out of ninety minutes
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[wizadry]

I was wondering about that. That means McG did get some of his head on it?

I think I’d still argue there’s a difference, though. McG could see he was in front of the defensive line (I guess he was hoping the defender behind him was playing him on), wheras Sharp was anticipating and busting a gut to get in front of his man. He’s only offside (if he actually is; I haven’t seen it back) as McG touches it with his head 0.2 or so seconds earlier.

Sharp wasn’t offside anyway so no need for further discussion on that particular incident. He was only offside if you wanted it to be offside to support an agenda, which I know you wasn’t.

 

[LJBlade]

I was wondering about that. That means McG did get some of his head on it?

I think I’d still argue there’s a difference, though. McG could see he was in front of the defensive line (I guess he was hoping the defender behind him was playing him on), wheras Sharp was anticipating and busting a gut to get in front of his man. He’s only offside (if he actually is; I haven’t seen it back) as McG touches it with his head 0.2 or so seconds earlier.

McGoldrick didn’t touch it, Sharp wasn’t offside. Pinchy is only claiming he was because he doesn’t like him.