Dave Kitson

[Racy]

A key reason for our recent failings is Wilson persevering with Kitson in the starting line up.

Kitson condition is poor he looks bulky and slow but fools everybody contributing only with winning the odd free kick and flick ons.
He is incapable of being involved in in an up tempo game as his fitness would not allow it
Often he looks completely disinterested and why he drifts into midfield to receive the ball is baffling.
I'm afraid Kitson is a fraud and the quicker we show him the door and start Ironside the better

 

[Bladesway]

Certainly hasn't had the impact you would expect having come back from his last injury. You wonder if having secured a contract to the end of the season he may have knocked off.

 

[SwissBlade]

The supply has been terrible in the games i've seen

 

[metalblade]

Strange only last night I was thinking is Kitson worth the wedge that we must be playing him. Back in August when we were on about signing him I was slaughtered on here for saying he would be a poor signing. Last season he managed 4 goals yes four goals all season so at least 6 goals in 17 appearances is a big improvement though not exactly prolific given he is allegedly up against pub league centre backs. Still it is much better than Porter's 2 goals from 17 appearances, should I even bother to mention Cresswell ?
Kitson was 33 a few days ago, Cresswell even older than that do either do as much for the team as Porter ? I know strikers are judged on how many goals they score but for me as bad as he is Porter does more for the team than those two and he is still only 28, I think we should be going with Porter and Ironside and busting a gut to get rid of Cresswell and Kitson why on earth we ever gave them contracts I'll never know those two alone must be taking a considerable chunk out of the wage budget which could be used to better effect elsewhere.

 

[secretchief]

Calling him a fraud is a bit strong. Other individuals are far more worthy of criticism.

There are lots of very good reasons why recent form has been poor. Our failings as a team are largely systemic, and though there are players who simply aren't good enough, Kitson isn't one of them.

 

[Russ]

I'm with the chief, you can't call him a fraud. And he's gonna score on Satdi'!

 

[Racy]

Calling him a fraud is a bit strong. Other individuals are far more worthy of criticism.

There are lots of very good reasons why recent form has been poor. Our failings as a team are largely systemic, and though there are players who simply aren't good enough, Kitson isn't one of them.

I'd like to call him something stronger.
He's at that stage of his career where he's just going through the motions he docent give a toss about us he's living of the past he did it for Reading but he was garbage for Stoke and Pompey.
He'll milk us for every penny if we let him.

 

[metalblade]

I'd like to call him something stronger.
He's at that stage of his career where he's just going through the motions he docent give a toss about us he's living of the past he did it for Reading but he was garbage for Stoke and Pompey.
He'll milk us for every penny if we let him.

You'd think we would learn after the shit Robson brought in

 

[bramptonblade]

Put a few crosses into the box and then judge him, why play a 6ft+ battering ram and not give him the service he needs?
Easy really this football management!!!!!!!!! Strewth!
UTB

 

[Racy]

Put a few crosses into the box and then judge him, why play a 6ft+ battering ram and not give him the service he needs?
Easy really this football management!!!!!!!!! Strewth!
UTB

He may have been that in his Reading days but not now.

As a said before get young Ironside in now he'll feel the passion and what it means to us and I'm sure he'll deliver.

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

You'd think we would learn after the shit Robson brought in

Robson brought in some decent players, just didn't know how to use them or get the best from them (puls they cost a fortune but thats down to the board for me). I was going to say he wouldn't know how to run a piss up in a brewery, but I suspect he would be perfect doing that

 

[GAZBLADE]

You'd think we would learn after the shit Robson brought in

Dear God, this club will never learn!!! It's what we do, and we do it fuckin well!!

 

[sheffielder]

The guy is well overweight. Surely putting the effort to get this bit right would help with the problem with him!

 

[Racy]

The guy is well overweight. Surely putting the effort to get this bit right would help with the problem with him!

Sorry to disappoint you Sheff but there's no chance of him trimming off.

He's this seasons has been and we've been mugged again,this seasons Marcus Bent.
When will we ever learn!

 

[gavtheblade]

get beattie back

 

[raul]

At least no- one can pin this one on McCa........



Oh

 

[Kempy]

A key reason for our recent failings is Wilson persevering with Kitson in the starting line up.

Kitson condition is poor he looks bulky and slow but fools everybody contributing only with winning the odd free kick and flick ons.
He is incapable of being involved in in an up tempo game as his fitness would not allow it
Often he looks completely disinterested and why he drifts into midfield to receive the ball is baffling.
I'm afraid Kitson is a fraud and the quicker we show him the door and start Ironside the better

Im sorry but IMO this is absolute bollocks on so many levels. Kitson is not poor, everything the bloke does shows the higher level knowledge and experience he has. Kitson has always been slow and bulky.... So has cresswell, Hulse, Henderson, Porter.... you name a big striker, they tend to be slow.

Only the odd flick? bollocks he wins twice as many as porter and more than cresswell any game, and put simply is the best big striker we have. Disinterested? rubbish the bloke signed on a seriously low wage to what he is used to and took us over championship teams. Even if he did look disinterested I wouldn't blame him with the pile of wank he has been playing with recently.

"Up tempo game" When the hell do we play decent attacking quick tempo football? Or have I been going to watch a different team all my life? I agree his fitness could be better but he's old, cresswells fitness isn't as good as it used to be. As for Porter, theres a lad whose fitness should be alot better.

"drifts into midfield" Seriously? As a striker if you don't get the ball where do you go to get it? Possibly the midfield where we have been wank pretty much all season. If you want to look for disinterest and piss poor performances this season, take a look at our two CM's. No heart, poor quality, and low work ethic. Especially of recent weeks against awful opposition.

You would have to be mad to show him the door with a talent like Ironside coming through of who could learn so much from the likes of Kitson. His experience is invaluable in a poor squad. Also please look at the major factor that Miller is missing, Since he has gone we have had no movement upfront and pretty much no attacking threat as no one seems able to run at players and hit a good on target shot at goal. Murphy may be the answer but he will need time to gel before we see how good he is

(essay over)

 

[ShockingBadBuy]

I don't know if "this season's Marcus Bent" is fair. Marcus Bent that season looked like he was playing about 5 divisions up from where he should have been.

Kitson's been disappointing since he came back from his injury. Early doors, I thought he had a couple of top games. And the way he helped make, then took, his chance at Doncaster was about the only moment of quality from a player in black all afternoon. But yeah, recently he's been poor. Seems to be getting bigger as the season goes on.

 

[Racy]

Kitson is a shadow of the striker he was when he burst onto the scene with initially Cambridge United then Reading who he made his name with.
Pullis couldn't wait to get rid at Stoke and at Pompey he was a flop.

Do you think he come here to resurrect his career or become the new Deano I think not.
I agree with Kempys comments on McDonald and Doyle but that's another matter.

 

[ShockingBadBuy]

I think he came here to fill in time while his agent sorted him out with something in the MLS, which is probably about his level (if he lays off the pies).

 

[Kempy]

Kitson is a shadow of the striker he was when he burst onto the scene with initially Cambridge United then Reading who he made his name with.
Pullis couldn't wait to get rid at Stoke and at Pompey he was a flop.

Do you think he come here to resurrect his career or become the new Deano I think not.
I agree with Kempys comments on McDonald and Doyle but that's another matter.

Any player is a shadow of what they were when they burst onto the scene in their late years. If they weren't they would be playing alot higher up. Resurrect his career? Ofcourse not, it nearly over. Is he the best striker in the role of the bigman we have... yes and you would blind if you thought otherwise.

I don't mean to come across too aggressive or forward to you Racy, it just seems your comments and a few others on this post are not thought through. Kitson is not suppose to be a one way ticket to the championship? Our main threat is suppose to come from the likes of Blackman, Miller, porter, Murphy etc etc. Problem is we have strikers who arent good enough i.e. porter (IMO) or too old to do a full 90 (cressy) an injury to our best striker: Miller (IMO), Blackman who again IMO is better on the wing and Murphy is also really a winger. Bring through Ironside ofcourse! Do it too early you'll rip the lads confidence apart with a few idiots on the kop screaming for him to be off when he misses the odd sitter. Macca and Doyle's shit performances are not another matter, they heavily influence the way in which a striker plays, no creativity = no chances for the strikers to put away... no moving the ball to the wings = no chances, no fucking work ethic in the middle (excuse language, my main annoyance of recent weeks) = whole team stuffed.

Look at the source of the problems not another scapegoat! You get decent balls up to him he'll score all day, He hangs in the air and seems to get on the end of everything.... start a new thread on giving Doyle and Macca a big kick up the fecking arse and ill support you all the way.

 

[Pinchy]

Any player is a shadow of what they were when they burst onto the scene in their late years. If they weren't they would be playing alot higher up. Resurrect his career? Ofcourse not, it nearly over. Is he the best striker in the role of the bigman we have... yes and you would blind if you thought otherwise.

I don't mean to come across too aggressive or forward to you Racy, it just seems your comments and a few others on this post are not thought through. Kitson is not suppose to be a one way ticket to the championship? Our main threat is suppose to come from the likes of Blackman, Miller, porter, Murphy etc etc. Problem is we have strikers who arent good enough i.e. porter (IMO) or too old to do a full 90 (cressy) an injury to our best striker: Miller (IMO), Blackman who again IMO is better on the wing and Murphy is also really a winger. Bring through Ironside ofcourse! Do it too early you'll rip the lads confidence apart with a few idiots on the kop screaming for him to be off when he misses the odd sitter. Macca and Doyle's shit performances are not another matter, they heavily influence the way in which a striker plays, no creativity = no chances for the strikers to put away... no moving the ball to the wings = no chances, no fucking work ethic in the middle (excuse language, my main annoyance of recent weeks) = whole team stuffed.

Look at the source of the problems not another scapegoat! You get decent balls up to him he'll score all day, He hangs in the air and seems to get on the end of everything.... start a new thread on giving Doyle and Macca a big kick up the fecking arse and ill support you all the way.

You were right to be assertive. Racy was talking rubbish I'm afraid. If Ironside ever becomes as good as Kitson is now he will have a good career. At present, he's nowhere near.

 

[Racy]

I'm only saying things as I see it Kempy.

If he comes out and scores a goal a game I'll be ecstatic.

But to conclude on this thread he got enough out of his deals and to me he's just going through the motions.

Just as a matter of interest are you any relation to Mick Kemp off the Jordanthorpe we were big mates in the 70s.

Went through school together, went to the matches home and away , boozed on London Rd and up Town lost contact early 80s

 

[Kempy]

I'm only saying things as I see it Kempy.

If he comes out and scores a goal a game I'll be ecstatic.

But to conclude on this thread he got enough out of his deals and to me he's just going through the motions.

Just as a matter of interest are you any relation to Mick Kemp off the Jordanthorpe we were big mates in the 70s.

Went through school together, went to the matches home and away , boozed on London Rd and up Town lost contact early 80s

Yeah ofcourse mate, I understand that. I just think your directing blame at entirely the wrong individual.
I think your quite misguided to say that he is going through the motions but hey ho its your opinion fella.

In regards to your mate Mick, I will have to check with my dad on that one. My dad moved out of Sheffield a good 20+ yr ago. I was born Midlands way but obviously have my dads side up in Sheffield, so I'll get back to you on that later today...

 

[Jehovah]

I think Kitson has done a decent job so far, albeit, he looked more impressive pre-injury.

 

[stannyblade]

Kempy is spot on with his comments IMO.

Give the ball to Kitson in the right way he will score. Dont give it to him at all and there is no way he can score.
Its simple.

 

[Kenilworth]

Kempy is spot on with his comments IMO.

Give the ball to Kitson in the right way he will score. Dont give it to him at all and there is no way he can score.
Its simple.

Preston away as an example - out of nothing - but at least it gave him a chance towards goal

 

[cahill]

There's people on here with a lot more football knowledge than I have but one example was at Notts County where he was put though in the second half and at least a yard clear, he didn't have the legs so turned back towards his own goal, momentum lost. Against Yeovil all he did was throw himeslf on the floor after the slightest touch, even the ref seemed embarrassed. He's overweight, immobile and doesn't seem to work hard. Get rid

 

[Racy]

There's people on here with a lot more football knowledge than I have but one example was at Notts County where he was put though in the second half and at least a yard clear, he didn't have the legs so turned back towards his own goal, momentum lost. Against Yeovil all he did was throw himeslf on the floor after the slightest touch, even the ref seemed embarrassed. He's overweight, immobile and doesn't seem to work hard. Get rid

That's all I'm trying to say.

 

[Kempy]

There's people on here with a lot more football knowledge than I have but one example was at Notts County where he was put though in the second half and at least a yard clear, he didn't have the legs so turned back towards his own goal, momentum lost. Against Yeovil all he did was throw himeslf on the floor after the slightest touch, even the ref seemed embarrassed. He's overweight, immobile and doesn't seem to work hard. Get rid

That's all I'm trying to say.

Unfortunately Racy, what Cahill has just posted there supports my point even more, so i'm not sure how you can agree?

The point is Kitson is a quality player with shit behind him. He is not getting the service he requires, funnily enough if you put a ball in front of a non pacey striker who is there to score headers and win you balls in the air.... you have to be a right muppet to think he will pounce on the ball with great pace and slam it into the corner. No service = no goals. You lump a ball up to miller at 6ft odd (roughly Kitson's height) he will not get anywhere near the ball. Billy sharp is a class example, Quality player with an eye for a goal. What did we do? Lump it up to him 6ft in the air and shout "go on Billy, put it in the net!" Followed by continuous moaning at him when he didn't score..... Your now doing the same thing to Kitson in terms of playing it to feet and with pace in front of him instead of height. If we didn't have retards for midfield or possibly if they take their heads out their arses for a second they may realise this and start playing the right kind of balls to the kind of players we have.

As I said before the source is the problem hence why we are so fecking boring to watch, there’s more creativity in my ballsack then watching Blades on a Saturday.