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"Responsibility for recent results lies with us as owners, and we remain fully committed to supporting the team and pursuing promotion."

That's very rare in football- realizing that their decision(s) was/were wrong in various areas and changing course in good time (even with much ridicule) and taking responsibility publicly while remaining committed to us progressing.
 

"Responsibility for recent results lies with us as owners, and we remain fully committed to supporting the team and pursuing promotion."

That's very rare in football- realizing that their decision(s) was/were wrong in various areas and changing course in good time (even with much ridicule) and taking responsibility publicly while remaining committed to us progressing.
To be fair to them although we don't know who is behind the statement it is the correct one.
 
“Sorry for appointing the wrong dude. We haven’t got a clue what we are doing regarding soccerball. The handegg season has us all of a kerfuffle, we’ve been too busy watching the LA Fudgenudgers at the Texas Chickenchokers. Go Sheffield!”

I agree appointing wilder again is wrong but give it some time first
 
"Responsibility for recent results lies with us as owners, and we remain fully committed to supporting the team and pursuing promotion."

That's very rare in football- realizing that their decision(s) was/were wrong in various areas and changing course in good time (even with much ridicule) and taking responsibility publicly while remaining committed to us progressing.

I know what you mean but it’s not necessarily accurate.

There’s a new factor applicable here and it’s not receiving enough appreciation.
In the past we’ve had single owners who makes decisions…..but now we are a consortium with 3 or 4 making decisions.

Hence why decision making is slower because the owners need to arrange a meeting and give their opinions.
For all we know there might have been 1 of the owners who never wanted Sellars and always wanted Wilder.

We don’t really know the percentage of voting power amongst our owners or who the main player is
But whoever persuaded them to drop Wilder and choose Selles as the next Pep Gaurdiola will now feel stupid.

Another issue that in the past Wilder would build up a relationship with the owner (The Prince) but now it’s more complicated because there’s several owners and there’s no one owner with ultimate power to make decisions.
 
They thought it was easy, but getting it right at a football club isnt - look at Man U & Amorin.

Hopefully the have learned a lesson and appoint a DoF or likewise and leave football decisions to football people.

Given we have lost a potential 15 points, we need someone to come in and hit the ground running

No one knows the club better than CW.

Problem is, we are kicking the can down the road, at some point we will be moving him on again, hopefully we are better prepared
 
“Sorry for appointing the wrong dude. We haven’t got a clue what we are doing regarding soccerball. The handegg season has us all of a kerfuffle, we’ve been too busy watching the LA Fudgenudgers at the Texas Chickenchokers. Go Sheffield!”

The dig about style of play from non football people underlines their delusion. Yes, controlling games of football and winning 28 of them is absolutely awful and was going to be bettered by totally changing the style 🤣. The naive, ridiculously open ancient style of your successor where we controlled 10 minutes of one game was much better. Football people needed asap.
 
The dig about style of play from non football people underlines their delusion. Yes, controlling games of football and winning 28 of them is absolutely awful and was going to be bettered by totally changing the style 🤣. The naive, ridiculously open ancient style of your successor where we controlled 10 minutes of one game was much better. Football people needed asap.
We know what was achieved last season needs praise, but there has to come a time when we develop as a club in a different way IF we want regular PL football. If we don’t then let’s not change, although standing still in any competitive business is very risky .
 
The law of averages say they will get something right one day probably by accident if they don't hire a football guy to be Chairman/advisor.

I used to like saying that even a busted clock gets it right twice a day to explain that I will get things right now and again, but my missus retorted one time by saying not if the busted clock hasn’t got any fooking hands it won’t get it right…….I never said that again…..
 
"Responsibility for recent results lies with us as owners, and we remain fully committed to supporting the team and pursuing promotion."

That's very rare in football- realizing that their decision(s) was/were wrong in various areas and changing course in good time (even with much ridicule) and taking responsibility publicly while remaining committed to us progressing.
Trouble is that as I see it, they've fixed their wrong decision by reversing their correct decision
 
I was in favour of replacing Wilder at the end of last season I was definitely against Selles getting the job and I can also state that I told you so was being said months ago, yes the owners got it wrong but they’ve actually eaten humble pie so I am pleased about that and thank them for it. I just wonder if the owners were listening to us fans when we were saying last seasons football was boring and just perhaps we are the reason Selles got the job with his ‘supposed’ attacking and sexy football? Anyway it’s their fault not mine
 

We know what was achieved last season needs praise, but there has to come a time when we develop as a club in a different way IF we want regular PL football. If we don’t then let’s not change, although standing still in any competitive business is very risky .
IF that is the goal then the owners need to spend a huge wedge on changing the infrastructure, first. I’m talking state level / oil level money. Until they do that, appointing an exchange student / a veneer coach is just the same as a lass getting Botox duck lips and thinking she’s the dogs bollox.
 
Trouble is that as I see it, they've fixed their wrong decision by reversing their correct decision
No. They never prepared the ground works to make that type of decision. It’s on them for being effing stupid. It was the wrong decision at the wrong time. Sort the infrastructure out and it may then be a sensible decision. As it is we are not geared up for a YTS coach.
 
I do want to give them credit for realising they made a mistake and not doubling down but it was such a bad mistake it's hard to give them the credit for it.

Like someone burning down your house but attempting to rebuild it free of charge.
 
We know what was achieved last season needs praise, but there has to come a time when we develop as a club in a different way IF we want regular PL football. If we don’t then let’s not change, although standing still in any competitive business is very risky .
Think you need a large spoon of 'reality pie'.
 
"Responsibility for recent results lies with us as owners, and we remain fully committed to supporting the team and pursuing promotion."

That's very rare in football- realizing that their decision(s) was/were wrong in various areas and changing course in good time (even with much ridicule) and taking responsibility publicly while remaining committed to us progressing.
They made a mistake, owned it and have (hopefully) rectified it. Can't ask for any more than that tbh, not many owners would swallow their pride for the good of the club.
 
The dig about style of play from non football people underlines their delusion. Yes, controlling games of football and winning 28 of them is absolutely awful and was going to be bettered by totally changing the style 🤣. The naive, ridiculously open ancient style of your successor where we controlled 10 minutes of one game was much better. Football people needed asap.

The problem is that they’re American. Most of their professional sport derives from their college system where University sports is massive and all universities have pro coaches for their teams. You get a sports scholarship in the USA, be it golf, lacrosse, baseball, gridiron then you’re made. You have a paid for education leading to a degree and you expect to go onto pro sport. The idea of a non college educated manager of a pro team is rare.

What they see is a bloke with no education set against a bloke with an education similar to what they would expect in their perception of professional sports. Similarly they have a huge reliance on statistical analysis in their pro sports and pro sports betting. To them, if a quarterback has a 2% advantage in red zone conversion then it’s worth backing. Football(Soccer) just doesn’t work to the same sort of algorithms and stats you can glean from gridiron, baseball basketball or ice hockey. The fact that a player can run 10.4 in a straight line doesn’t help if he doesn’t know when or to whom to release the ball, or he’s got the heart of a pea.

I hope they begin to understand it ain’t a computer game and learn from Wrexham and Birmingham. You need a dinosaur (I’m looking at you Parkinson) to make the first steps up before jumping to “the beautiful game”.

Just IMHO of course.
 
Think you need a large spoon of 'reality pie'.
Not at all. I was indicating that if PL is the regular goal then we need to change a lot off the pitch as well as on it.
I agree that is only realistic if there is money invested over a few years.
We don’t know what it is these owners want nor what they are prepared to invest.
 
The problem is that they’re American. Most of their professional sport derives from their college system where University sports is massive and all universities have pro coaches for their teams. You get a sports scholarship in the USA, be it golf, lacrosse, baseball, gridiron then you’re made. You have a paid for education leading to a degree and you expect to go onto pro sport. The idea of a non college educated manager of a pro team is rare.

What they see is a bloke with no education set against a bloke with an education similar to what they would expect in their perception of professional sports. Similarly they have a huge reliance on statistical analysis in their pro sports and pro sports betting. To them, if a quarterback has a 2% advantage in red zone conversion then it’s worth backing. Football(Soccer) just doesn’t work to the same sort of algorithms and stats you can glean from gridiron, baseball basketball or ice hockey. The fact that a player can run 10.4 in a straight line doesn’t help if he doesn’t know when or to whom to release the ball, or he’s got the heart of a pea.

I hope they begin to understand it ain’t a computer game and learn from Wrexham and Birmingham. You need a dinosaur (I’m looking at you Parkinson) to make the first steps up before jumping to “the beautiful game”.

Just IMHO of course.

A lot of excellent points there. I didn't think of it like that so thanks for the new perspective
 
Not at all. I was indicating that if PL is the regular goal then we need to change a lot off the pitch as well as on it.
I agree that is only realistic if there is money invested over a few years.
We don’t know what it is these owners want nor what they are prepared to invest.
I'm thinking although shrewd in their own fields, losing first 6 matches has brought home a bit of 'reality pie' to them. The targets have probably been re-aligned, new priority - staying in this division so that their 100 million isn't 40 million in League 1 next season.

Take stock in January, assess situation and take it from there. They are as raw as it comes in the Football World, there are rumours of The Prince maybe joining in some capacity - perhaps in a consultation / guidance role if I was them I'd deffo take him up on it.

I think right now PL ambitions just maybe on the back burner.
 
"Responsibility for recent results lies with us as owners, and we remain fully committed to supporting the team and pursuing promotion."

That's very rare in football- realizing that their decision(s) was/were wrong in various areas and changing course in good time (even with much ridicule) and taking responsibility publicly while remaining committed to us progressing.

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Credit to the Board indeed. It's all about managing expectations.
Had they not sacked Wilder then the expectation levels for this season would have been ridiculously high and the pressure would have instantly been on Wilder and the Board.
So, how to avoid that happening. The plan was simple -
Sack Wilder, then deliberately employ a manager with grandiose ideas who hardly anyone has ever heard of and with little pedigree of success - knowing full well that he would inevitably fail.
Then voila, re employ the very same manager you sacked who returns to the club - totally unburdened by weighty expectation.
Credit where credit's due. Truly a masterstroke of ownership strategy.
The only problem being that we're about 9 points adrift. But hey even the best plans can go awry.
Now even if we even manage to scrape into the play offs that would be deemed a success.
Brilliant.
 

Problem is, we are kicking the can down the road, at some point we will be moving him on again, hopefully we are better prepared

This can be said for any manager.

I’m sure the fan base in the red half of Manchester would have still had Alex Ferguson at Man U from 1986 to 2013 even if they knew the shit show that was to follow.

Same could be said for Arsenal with Wenger.

Sometimes you have to just let them become the club, and bring as much success as they can rather than worry about what’s next.
 

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