Cotterill has gone

[Highbury_Blade]

...he lost them at Wembley; never been seen since...

He was double marked most of the game, that in itself should tell you how highly rated he is by other managers.

Why Cotterill gets shit for having an off day, whilst Jamie Ward hardly gets any grief for completely losing his head is beyond me.

 

[super_pig]

>Why Cotterill gets shit for having an off day, whilst Jamie Ward hardly gets any grief for completely losing his head is beyond me.
why cotterill gets shit for having an off day , but that waste of a shirt stephen quinn hardly gets any grief for being the worst player ever to wear the red and white is beyond me.

 

[Bergen Blade]

infer

:thumbup::thumbup:

 

[Big Mart]

>Why Cotterill gets shit for having an off day, whilst Jamie Ward hardly gets any grief for completely losing his head is beyond me.
why cotterill gets shit for having an off day , but that waste of a shirt stephen quinn hardly gets any grief for being the worst player ever to wear the red and white is beyond me.

Looks like quite a few things are beyond you then sunshine doesn't it?

Cotterill was a pappy little twat who failed to live up to his billing. He was nesh, his control was poor, and yes he managed the odd decent cross now and then but overall his lack of bottle meant that there was little or no end product so we're far better off without him.

Quinn was excellent when he first came on the scene so rather than jump on the "Quinny's shit" bandwagon, you may be better looking a bit deeper and wondering why it is that any player who looks like he may have an ounce of footballing talent about him is soon dragged down to the level of the tactics employed by a big boot clueless manager or sorry, is all that a bit beyond you

:gallop:

 

[Bramley]

Looks like quite a few things are beyond you then sunshine doesn't it?

Cotterill was a pappy little twat who failed to live up to his billing. He was nesh, his control was poor, and yes he managed the odd decent cross now and then but overall his lack of bottle meant that there was little or no end product so we're far better off without him.

Quinn was excellent when he first came on the scene so rather than jump on the "Quinny's shit" bandwagon, you may be better looking a bit deeper and wondering why it is that any player who looks like he may have an ounce of footballing talent about him is soon dragged down to the level of the tactics employed by a big boot clueless manager or sorry, is all that a bit beyond you

:gallop:

Agree re: Cotterill. I think a fair few people are just using this as another reason to have a pop at Blacky.

 

[Robbie]

I can't believe the double standards you are showing here Mart.

Cotterill was a pappy little twat who failed to live up to his billing. He was nesh, his control was poor, and yes he managed the odd decent cross now and then but overall his lack of bottle meant that there was little or no end product so we're far better off without him.

Little or no end product?
Highest assist account for last season. Also the highest I believe for this season despite not playing as much as he should.

But that's not my gripe, you accuse him of not living upto his billing because he is a 'pappy little twat' (whatever that means) Yet you make excuses for the way SQuinn plays because of the management he is now under.

Now correct me if I am wrong, but they both play for the same manager (although SQuinn more so because he seems to be KBs love child) - yet the manager has only ruined one of theirs career.

Lets not also forget though that Cotts was also excellent when he came on to the scene too.

Quinn was excellent when he first came on the scene so rather than jump on the "Quinny's shit" bandwagon, you may be better looking a bit deeper and wondering why it is that any player who looks like he may have an ounce of footballing talent about him is soon dragged down to the level of the tactics employed by a big boot clueless manager or sorry, is all that a bit beyond you
:gallop:

 

[Foxy]

I get the reasoning behind people complaining about him possibly going, about him potentially being a very useful player and about our squad size.

What I don't get, is the sheer weight behind the "issue".

I've read people saying that after 50 years supporting, if we sell Cotterill then they'll never step foot in Bramall Lane ever again. People saying that for this sale alone, they'll be in the car park protesting.

I really don't understand the huge reputation and loyalty amongst some that Cotts has manage to build, certainly in comparison to others.

I know full well that most of them are empty threats and people going overboard venting their frustrations, but really, in the scheme of all the heartache following the Blades, would selling Cotts for several potential reasons be all that catastrophic on the future of the club?

 

[Bergen Blade]

Agree re: Cotterill. I think a fair few people are just using this as another reason to have a pop at Blacky.

Maybe, but as the young player exodus continues, remember that this is what we currently look likely to be left with in June:

Kenny 32

Geary 30
Morgan 33
Taylor 24

France 30
Monty 29
Williamson 28
Quinn 24

Henderson 29
Ward 24
Evans 22
Cresswell 33

I think we are gradually getting poorer, and in the main we're just watching it happen.

 

[Bramley]

I get the reasoning behind people complaining about him possibly going, about him potentially being a very useful player and about our squad size.

What I don't get, is the sheer weight behind the "issue".

I've read people saying that after 50 years supporting, if we sell Cotterill then they'll never step foot in Bramall Lane ever again. People saying that for this sale alone, they'll be in the car park protesting.

I really don't understand the huge reputation and loyalty amongst some that Cotts has manage to build, certainly in comparison to others.

I know full well that most of them are empty threats and people going overboard venting their frustrations, but really, in the scheme of all the heartache following the Blades, would selling Cotts for several potential reasons be all that catastrophic on the future of the club?

It's good for a chuckle though, the drama queens on here remind me of that fat cleaner bird in the Jungle show at the minute.

 

[lenners]

I get the reasoning behind people complaining about him possibly going, about him potentially being a very useful player and about our squad size.

What I don't get, is the sheer weight behind the "issue".

I've read people saying that after 50 years supporting, if we sell Cotterill then they'll never step foot in Bramall Lane ever again. People saying that for this sale alone, they'll be in the car park protesting.

I really don't understand the huge reputation and loyalty amongst some that Cotts has manage to build, certainly in comparison to others.

I know full well that most of them are empty threats and people going overboard venting their frustrations, but really, in the scheme of all the heartache following the Blades, would selling Cotts for several potential reasons be all that catastrophic on the future of the club?

It's just all part of the general chaos surrounding the club at the moment.
No direction, no indication of what we're trying to do as a football club, no spelling out of what our re-profiling is (why are we selling young players to replace them with old ones with no re-sale value and as high, if not higher, wages?) all adding up to fans sensing that the club isn't particularly bothered about them at the moment.
Not Cotts in particular.

 

[Wards]

eloquently put.

 

[themaninblack]

He was double marked most of the game, that in itself should tell you how highly rated he is by other managers.

Why Cotterill gets shit for having an off day, whilst Jamie Ward hardly gets any grief for completely losing his head is beyond me.

Double marked? Give over!

They both embarrassed themselves. One lost his bottle and the other lost his head.

 

[Grecian2000]

I get the reasoning behind people complaining about him possibly going, about him potentially being a very useful player and about our squad size.

What I don't get, is the sheer weight behind the "issue".

I've read people saying that after 50 years supporting, if we sell Cotterill then they'll never step foot in Bramall Lane ever again. People saying that for this sale alone, they'll be in the car park protesting.

I really don't understand the huge reputation and loyalty amongst some that Cotts has manage to build, certainly in comparison to others.

I know full well that most of them are empty threats and people going overboard venting their frustrations, but really, in the scheme of all the heartache following the Blades, would selling Cotts for several potential reasons be all that catastrophic on the future of the club?

I think it is getting to the "straw that breaks the camels back" stage.

As Len stated a couple of threads back it is not the Cotterril thing per se, but what it represents in a wider sense.
Skillful but unpredictable and inconsistent and no chance of getting a game in front of players who look completely clueless but run around a lot. Is that what we really want from a team, clueless triers? I certainly don't.

As for "just another stick to beat Blacky with" mentioned elsewhere. Don't see that at all. Most people who are raging about Cotts going are the ones who have been wanting to see him play.

 

[Willie Carlin]

He's Gone

Cotterill's gone. Reliable information. :thumbdown:

 

[bladesman3]

Good luck to him if he has..deserves better than being stuck on the bench or not even that..if soeone can put their arm round him & give him some games, he'll do great

 

[sitwell]

Hasn't he been terrribly managed ,no matter how good he is. If a manager in my company bougt an asset after assessing it for a long time ,then rented a replacement in its place only using it sporadically ,then offloading it for less than half the purchase price he would be sacked. If that figure was the amount lost on Cotterill he would be booted all the way to the jobcentre.

 

[SwissBlade]

Controversial I know, but as Cotterill himself was saying he wanted 1st team football, perhaps he's happy to settle for a little club where he can get a game every week and not have to fight for his place.

Perhaps he doesn't have the nuts for the fight and bottled it.

Just a thought

 

[blades1889]

that another good player that has gone. He can beat a man. He can put in a cross. And is fast y get rid of him???
Blackwell aint got a clue

 

[Houso]

No sick mother either.

Cotterill told The Star: "I just want to make it clear that this has got nothing to do with anything other than the fact I haven't been playing.

"I've heard suggestions that my wife couldn't settle up here and that there were things going on with my family but nothing could be further from the truth.

"We moved from Manchester to Yorkshire and, in fact, my wife couldn't be happier.

"We've made a lot of great friends both inside and outside the club. But I need to be playing, especially at this stage of my career, and obviously I wasn't doing much of that.

"I've got my place in the international team to consider as well and it's a very important time.

"So if people are hearing anything different then I just want to let them know that it's wrong."

http://www.thestar.co.uk/blades/Cotterill-I-need-to-play.5846040.jp?

 

[beightonblade]

I won't miss him.

 

[Bladesway]

I won't miss him.

Only bloke you would miss is Garyoke playing your broken record BB.

 

[Knackered Blade]

Controversial I know, but as Cotterill himself was saying he wanted 1st team football, perhaps he's happy to settle for a little club where he can get a game every week and not have to fight for his place.

Perhaps he doesn't have the nuts for the fight and bottled it.

Just a thought

According to the Star, http://www.thestar.co.uk/blades/SHEFFIELD-UNITED-I-need-to.5846040.jp , the reason Cotterill is leaving is the lack of a first team place on a regular basis. That's it. Simple as.

There are no illnesses, family reasons or anything else. Just the lack of a regular place in the team.

So the point is, Blackwell bought him, not played him regularly for whatever reason, and has now sold him, at a substantial loss. Did Blackwell have to sell him for financial reasons or is this in preparation for the January purchases? I don't suppose we will ever know.

 

[Kev Gee]

Another player with natural abilty gone then. So do we have ANYONE with natural talent left & not just a team of hoofers?

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Have we got confirmation on the price?

Not that it matters anyway. Blackwell has shown with this that he's a complete tool. Firmly in the sacking camp now.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

I think this again goes to show why Blackie is so difficult to like.
Him saying it was all about his family/wife/mother when it clearly had nothing to do with it.

You'd better start getting results, hopefully Mr Birch's (a football man's) influence on the board will take effect sooner rather than later.

 

[Knackered Blade]

Have we got confirmation on the price?

Not that it matters anyway. Blackwell has shown with this that he's a complete tool. Firmly in the sacking camp now.

According to gospel, that is the Star, selling for £500 000, bought for £1.5 million.
A million pound loss!

http://www.thestar.co.uk/blades/Cotterill-to-Swans.5838795.jp

BLADES: Sheffield United winger heading for Wales in £500,000 deal

Published Date: 19 November 2009
By James Shield
SHEFFIELD United winger David Cotterill is expected to hold talks with Swansea City after the two clubs agreed a fee for the Wales international, The Star can reveal.
Cotterill, who has struggled to command a regular place in Kevin Blackwell's starting 11 this season, has been granted permission to speak to officials at the Liberty Stadium after being deemed surplus to requirements.

Huw Jenkins, Swansea's chairman, suggested last night that he is hopeful of securing the 21-year-old's signature before next week's deadline for loan signings.

Should the move be completed then Cotterill's transfer will be made permanent during the January transfer window.

"We are getting closer," Jenkins said. "We are certainly closer than we were last week although nothing has been finalised yet.

"There's no desperate rush.

"We are just looking to bring in one or two players to strengthen the squad for the remainder of the season."

Although Jenkins refuted claims that Cotterill's price tag has been finalised, sources in the principality claim that a figure of around £500,000 has been discussed.

If that proves to be correct, then it will represent a significant loss on the estimated £1m United paid Wigan Athletic for Cotterill 16 months ago.

Cotterill, who initially arrived on loan during Bryan Robson's reign, made an instant impression in South Yorkshire and a series of incisive displays persuaded Blackwell to offer him a long-term contract after succeeding the former England captain at the helm.

However, despite the initial excitement at capturing a player regarded as one of the most exciting young talents in the Football League, Cotterill failed to establish himself.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Again, as with Ched, we don't actually know the fee for Cotts. How much was upfront, how much on appearances? I've heard we've pretty much got our initial outlay back.

 

[Fiery Blade]

Controversial I know, but as Cotterill himself was saying he wanted 1st team football, perhaps he's happy to settle for a little club where he can get a game every week and not have to fight for his place.

Perhaps he doesn't have the nuts for the fight and bottled it.

Just a thought

LITTLE CLUB ! That little club moved into 3rd place after winning last night and has also beat us 2-1
Little Club - How condescending
:thumbdown:

 

[Foxy]

I think this again goes to show why Blackie is so difficult to like.
Him saying it was all about his family/wife/mother when it clearly had nothing to do with it.

Can I ask when exactly Kevin Blackwell said this?

 

[Maidenhead]

I won't miss him.

Blimey, I agree with Beighton, what the hell is going on here?