Delboyscap
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Been following you guys all season and have read the boards quite a lot without posting. As you are now on the verge of securing promotion, and hopefully the Title too in the coming weeks, I feel sure that I will not be tempting fate. A few may remember I came on here when Wilder was appointed to wish you luck and to give you an idea of what Wilder was about. Glad he has continued his magic with you guys as he is possibly the best manager we (Halifax Town) have had since the 70's and he is also a great football man. Well this is what I wrote at the time;
"Halifax fan in peace. Thought I would post a little more on Wilder as I have followed his career after he left the Shay. I can understand the sense of underwhelm you are feeling. Most fans of a club your size would probably be hoping for an ex Premier League or good Championship manager, so completely get the feeling of being a but short changed.
What I will say though is, Wilder is an excellent manager. Did very well at Alfreton, at the Shay he was severely hindered by our financial situation but still did a cracking job overall taking us to within 10 or so minutes of a return to the League against all the odds. At Oxford he turned around their fortunes in his first season going on a run that took them to an almost impossible run towards the play-offs which was only hindered by a 5 point deduction. The following season got them out of the division. Admittedly perhaps could have done a little better with Oxford in his couple of seasons in League 2, but he left them in a very stable position and in pole position to win promotion in that season. Does not need mentioning the job he has done at Northampton!!!
The big plus in my opinion is that Wilder seems to have finally found a really good assistant in Alan Knill. In some ways they remind me of Warnock and Jones. Knill is a very good football coach and an underrated Manager himself, who has had impossible jobs in management. Led what many believe to be the best League 2 footballing sides in recent times Bury to the brink of promotion before leaving. It seems that together they work very well, and complement each other perfectly. Wilder appears to have changed a little, with better football now Knill is part of the team. Some management duo's just work, and the evidence since they teamed up together suggests they are one of those. Wilder actually assisted Knill the season that Bury did win promotion from League 2 (although Barker finished the job off as Knill had left for Scun*horpe and Wilder left for Oxford). At Northampton they identified all that was wrong immediately and the turn around there was quite amazing. Of course nothing is guaranteed in football, but together you have a cracking management team in place. I went on the Northampton board when Wilder was appointed to say what a good manager they had, I hope you guys are just as successful as both Wilder and Knill (both ex Halifax players too) deserve it!!"
#124 Delboyscap, May 16, 2016
"As I mentioned the other day, this is exactly what Wilder did on taking over at Northampton. Seems him and Knill know exactly the players from the pretenders. May be a bit harder shifting some of your players than it was at Northampton due to you guys being one of the biggest in the division, but looking good so far. Big window coming up for you guys, just hope history repeats itself!! "
#349 Delboyscap, May 21, 2016
"One thing that Wilder is big on is team spirit. Without knowing too much about the players released, it will possibly be a combination of them being passengers or they do not fit the mould of being part of a collective and unified group that are hungry and ready to run through brick walls? He also will be looking at players who can step up to the Championship in that he recruits for a division above.
He was known as a bit of a tinker man himself at Halifax, as we had quite a large turnover of players in his first few years. This in part was having to start from 3 or 4 players in his first season, but he is not scared to rebuild a squad or to ship out players, even the ones he has brought in. This has changed somewhat over the years, but even at Northampton, I recall one or two of his own signings were shipped out quickly when they were deemed not good enough.
If some have you have time, it may be worth looking over this article about his time at Halifax. Being a Shayman fan, there is no better apprenticeship in football if you want to learn the hard way with odds stacked against you;"
http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/spo...lifax-came-so-close-to-defying-odds-1-7921890
#20 Delboyscap, May 21, 2016
So was I right?
"Halifax fan in peace. Thought I would post a little more on Wilder as I have followed his career after he left the Shay. I can understand the sense of underwhelm you are feeling. Most fans of a club your size would probably be hoping for an ex Premier League or good Championship manager, so completely get the feeling of being a but short changed.
What I will say though is, Wilder is an excellent manager. Did very well at Alfreton, at the Shay he was severely hindered by our financial situation but still did a cracking job overall taking us to within 10 or so minutes of a return to the League against all the odds. At Oxford he turned around their fortunes in his first season going on a run that took them to an almost impossible run towards the play-offs which was only hindered by a 5 point deduction. The following season got them out of the division. Admittedly perhaps could have done a little better with Oxford in his couple of seasons in League 2, but he left them in a very stable position and in pole position to win promotion in that season. Does not need mentioning the job he has done at Northampton!!!
The big plus in my opinion is that Wilder seems to have finally found a really good assistant in Alan Knill. In some ways they remind me of Warnock and Jones. Knill is a very good football coach and an underrated Manager himself, who has had impossible jobs in management. Led what many believe to be the best League 2 footballing sides in recent times Bury to the brink of promotion before leaving. It seems that together they work very well, and complement each other perfectly. Wilder appears to have changed a little, with better football now Knill is part of the team. Some management duo's just work, and the evidence since they teamed up together suggests they are one of those. Wilder actually assisted Knill the season that Bury did win promotion from League 2 (although Barker finished the job off as Knill had left for Scun*horpe and Wilder left for Oxford). At Northampton they identified all that was wrong immediately and the turn around there was quite amazing. Of course nothing is guaranteed in football, but together you have a cracking management team in place. I went on the Northampton board when Wilder was appointed to say what a good manager they had, I hope you guys are just as successful as both Wilder and Knill (both ex Halifax players too) deserve it!!"
#124 Delboyscap, May 16, 2016
"As I mentioned the other day, this is exactly what Wilder did on taking over at Northampton. Seems him and Knill know exactly the players from the pretenders. May be a bit harder shifting some of your players than it was at Northampton due to you guys being one of the biggest in the division, but looking good so far. Big window coming up for you guys, just hope history repeats itself!! "
#349 Delboyscap, May 21, 2016
"One thing that Wilder is big on is team spirit. Without knowing too much about the players released, it will possibly be a combination of them being passengers or they do not fit the mould of being part of a collective and unified group that are hungry and ready to run through brick walls? He also will be looking at players who can step up to the Championship in that he recruits for a division above.
He was known as a bit of a tinker man himself at Halifax, as we had quite a large turnover of players in his first few years. This in part was having to start from 3 or 4 players in his first season, but he is not scared to rebuild a squad or to ship out players, even the ones he has brought in. This has changed somewhat over the years, but even at Northampton, I recall one or two of his own signings were shipped out quickly when they were deemed not good enough.
If some have you have time, it may be worth looking over this article about his time at Halifax. Being a Shayman fan, there is no better apprenticeship in football if you want to learn the hard way with odds stacked against you;"
http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/spo...lifax-came-so-close-to-defying-odds-1-7921890
#20 Delboyscap, May 21, 2016
So was I right?

