[Confirmed] Naughton Bid Accepted

[SwissBlade]

Who really thought that we'd keep him?? Honestly??

Of course it was inevitable we would get offers for players. Only yesterday I read Blackies comments about wanting to keep our best players and rumours will always fly around when we have excellent players and we are a big club.

Why can't we play hard ball, why do we always pamper to the needs of the PL teams.

The questions remain...Does the player want to go? If not then tie him into a new deal. Do we need the money? If not then hold out for daft money!

The Player - Well the lad's a Blade so did he want to go? Probably not and we were 90 mins from PL football so surely he wasn't so dissillusioned with the club or didn't he believe we were capable of promotion

He's played 1 season of first team football. He's not yet started an U21 game or established himself at that level so potentially he's worth more, Wayne Bridge went to Man City for around 10 Mil and Glen Johnson looks to be on the way to Liverpool for 18.5 Million, neither are established full backs for England and went for a lot more than 4, 5 or 6 million

The Money - Apparently we've been putting together around 5 million of transfers, incidentally this is the same amount of money that was reinvested in the club through other ventures.

So were not exactly hard up! So why did we rush to sell?!?

 

[matth]

Whatever the money, it's not about that anyway.

It's about an amazing young talent who is a Blade through and through and is exactly the kind of thing we need at the club to help us realise the 'Blades Way'.

Unless, as it appears, the Blades Way is biting off the hand of any suitor who comes in with a bid, and replacing hungry young talent with tired has-beens who have been proven failures at this level and above, and who have no link to the club other than the money we're paying them.

We're a small-time club, whatever they try to tell us. Even Cardiff manage to look more wily in the transfer market.

 

[SwissBlade]

No No No Matth, We're a big club, Blackie said yesterday!

Blackie also said that at a Big club like us we'll always get rumours, its par for the course... Last year it was about James Beattie but nothing materialised from it... His words not mine...

 

[BuryStEdmundsBlade]

You get use to these days as a Blade. Was hoping we'd keep them but knew deep down if a decent offer came he'd go. Not good.

 

[dingledog]

It was inevitable and I am sure it is the key that will unlock all the incomings we have been hearing about. Sad loss but absolutly inevitable. Thanks to Kyle for being a Blade and good luck.

 

[SwissBlade]

All the incomings? 4 of an awful Watford team, a Bristol city winger that can't cross and a striker from Man City that will end up at Newcastle.

Even the pigs are holding out against Burnley with Tudgay

 

[uniblade]

for £6M you have to take it

Naughton a great player but didn't play any better than the rest in the 5 or 6 games leading up to the play offs.

Hope we use the money well and don't get the usual "need it to pay the high wage bill"

 

[SwissBlade]

Why do we HAVE to take it?

Lets not get confused, we are not in Administration and DON'T have to sell anyone.

Why publicise the "were a big club" article a day before and why stick naughton in the new shirt as the face of the Blades.

As Matth said, its not about the money, its about being stronger and holding out like we did against West Ham!

 

[matth]

No, you don't have to take it. We could say 'no'. £6m is piss-all. We're not just losing a player, we're losing a life-long Blade.

 

[Foxy]

it's all well and good we are losing a "life long blade"...

Ignoring all the giving the lad the opportunity to decide.....

He can still turn down Everton if he wants to stay, we won't force him to move.

Know many life long blades his age that wouldn't want a massive pay increase and to play in the top half of the Premier League? I don't.

 

[fatpat]

People really need to be realistic, from the moment we lost at wembley this was inevitable, this is not lack of ambition as the BT sale was in my book, this is a good deal, its proof that the academy not only pays for itself, it produces good players who can play for us and be sold on for an enormous profit, currently we have kyle w who I believe will be just as good as kyle.
£6m is being reported that is a good piece of business, of course hopefully that money is spent on a wide player and a quality striker, which are areas we are really short of quality.
Folk have to realise the reality of the world, not how they'd like it to be

 

[HoodedClaw]

It's not a good deal for the club, you pie-faced loon*. It's a good deal in terms of money, but what are we losing in terms of ability?

If the board admit that we're a small-time selling club, instead of painting us to be some ambitious outfit with one eye on the Premier league and European football, maybe I'll get less upset every time we sell one of our prize assets.

Fucking disgraceful, IMO. We might as well get a load of no-hopers in and aim for mid-table mediocrity next season.

*That's aimed at Fatty Robinson, btw...

What clubs board is ever going to admit they are a selling club? Every club in the world, possibly with the exception of Real Ale Madrid at the mo, are selling clubs. The Ronaldo transfer has shown that every player and club has a price.

Unfortunately the sport of Football we knew and loved died in 1992 when the Sky tv deal was signed and the prem league formed, suddenly overnight Football changed from a sport we all loved to a business, and what talks in every business... Money.

Its niave to think that we can just hold onto all our assets, we're a championship club FFS. £5 - £6million for a player that has played one season is a fair price IMO, as long as the transfer fee is structured in our favour and the money spent on the first team.

If they do get the £5 - £6 million though look on it positively only a couple of seasons ago they would have sold him for half that, at least we seem to be holding out to get the money we think he's worth. We now maybe a value selling club rather that a let them go for f*ck all selling club. This is progress in my book.

We may, possibly, have been forced down this road by the sheer stupidity of Paddy. Suddenly there's the very real chance of having to buy a keeper, well thats going to cost at least £2million if you believe the valuation of Lonergan. So it may not neccessarily be the clubs idea to sell. Just seems coincidental that we discover the issue with Paddy and then we have been negotiating for a week. (Not a big fan of coincidence me)

I will be as gutted as the next person if he leaves, as he is a real talent, but you have to look at it with reality glasses on.

Robinson is still a Wanker though :thumbdown:

IMO.

 

[Linz]

Buggeration.

 

[SwissBlade]

Foxy, I don't think the comments on here have been about Naughton himself, I certainly don't begrudge him the desire to play PL football and become and England international. No one would be more proud than to see him and Jags walk out for England in South Africa.

And Fatpat, Yes it was inevitable that we would get offers.

But the youth of our team is the future of our team. The club constantly talks up the club and the fact that we're a big club... From McCabe, to Rocket, to Turry, to Blackie, to Morgs, to Ron Reid, to Naughton. Its about the future, Carlos the 16 yr Spaniard, Shane the 17yr from Irish lad, its all about the youth, the pace, the 44,000 capacity stadium.

All of that is worthless and just a pipedream if we don't try and retain our best players.

We'll end up going backwards.

I thought selling BT lacked ambition but this is much worse.

Instead Naughton SHOULD have been getting tied into a 5 yr deal with major incentives.

We SHOULD have at least fended off bids until January.

 

[matth]

And what does it say about our belief in Naughton if we accept a bid for him? He's not on the transfer list, therefore he hasn't asked to leave the club. Perhaps we should be showing some faith and belief in our better players rather than thinking of them as assets that can be cashed in, no doubt to fund another useless link-up with a foreign team that will get pushed down our throats, or to buy players who won't even get played.

 

[SwissBlade]

What does it say to clubs interested in our players? Bid low, they'll accept it anyway!

 

[HoodedClaw]

And what does it say about our belief in Naughton if we accept a bid for him? He's not on the transfer list, therefore he hasn't asked to leave the club. Perhaps we should be showing some faith and belief in our better players rather than thinking of them as assets that can be cashed in, no doubt to fund another useless link-up with a foreign team that will get pushed down our throats, or to buy players who won't even get played.

Oh players being assets thats a new way of thinking about them. Ever since there's been a transfer market players have been assets, so lets not have a transfer market then.

What does it say to clubs interested in our players? Bid low, they'll accept it anyway!

WTF!?!?! if that was the case he would have be on his way for £2 - £3million weeks ago.

What a bunch of drama queens

 

[matth]

And what does it say to the fans? The fans who have spent a fortune on season tickets, despite a disappointing end to last season, despite a straitened financial climate, and despite another season of second-tier football? Whatever it says, it's not very positive.

 

[jose_d_blade]

To all my fellow blades fans who are upset or surprised by this,

What team have you been following?

When didn’t we sell our best players?

If you are not happy with the club stop going it’s the only way any one on the board will ever pay any attention to the fans wishes.

But I think all this would do would make McCabe pull out and we'd be sunk.

So like it or lump it thers nothing we can do about it.

Just wish we had some one worth giving some money to, to buy players.

Only way we will ever not be a selling club is if we find an oil tycoon with more money than sense and I cant see this happening.

Good luck Kyle your always welcome to come back home

 

[shorehamview]

Well, if that's just not nailed the club's cock to the washing line I don't know what will.

Sure, you could always look for the positives. After all, who had even heard of Kyle Naughton a year ago? Who would have been happy if Everton had promised six million a year ago, but let us keep him on loan for a year?

Or put it the other way, who would be happy if we were told now that a great new player would come from the Academy for the 09/10 season, and we'd let anyone with a big enough purse have him for what might turn out to be peanuts?

Whichever way you look at it it seems that we are building for the arse-end of the play-off positions, and anything else will be a bonus.

 

[matth]

Exactly. All of Beighton's talk about ambition was clearly right on the money.


All eight thousand times he made the point

 

[mattbianco1]

Football is a business END OF! This is purely theoretical but.... If i had lets say a mechanical shop and someone offered my son, of whom i have shown the ropes a chance to further his career at a bigger mechanical shop and they'll increase his wages AND pay me compensation for taking him off my hands then yes i'd accept.

The end of the day, a transfer fee is no longer what it says on the tin, it's actually a "compensation fee," especially for players that you don't really want to sell. And the bigger the "compensation" you get the better.

If we were a premiership club we could've maybe hung on for longer, but i can tell you now Wigan fans will be saying the same... Valencia is worth more than £16m. BUT, i don't agree with that i think Man Utd paid over the odds because they knew that Wigan can hold on longer. Wigan fans will also be saying "Everton must be stupid, £6m for an un-proven right back!"

2 sides to every coin i'm afraid, and as someone said earlier every player has a price BUT if you're in the premiership, the price of your players goes up that little bit!

We just feel more hard done to because its our club, that's all!

 

[Vistoma]

Premiership or championship

Man Utd away or Peterborough away

European football or Carling Cup

£30k? a week or £3k

Come on guys, this could be his big chance, he is a professional footballer and wants to play at the highest level. This may be his only chance as well, who's to say he won't get injured if he stays with us this year.

I really don't begrudge him his chance and wish him well for the future, I am not happy about being a "selling" club but that's where we are right now.

 

[bennicholson]

Naughton bid accepted !

Radio Sheffield and BBC Sport website quotes
Sheffield United have Accepted a £5m Bid from Everton.
the previous £3.5m bid was rejected but the recent bid is understud to have been accepted.
he will go to mersyside monday to discuss terms.

 

[shorehamview]

No shit Sherlock.
http://www.sheff-utd.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=13052

 

[Foxy]

And what does it say about our belief in Naughton if we accept a bid for him? He's not on the transfer list, therefore he hasn't asked to leave the club.

Absolutely nothing. If we didn't have belief in Naughts, he wouldn't have been in the first team. Nor would we have nurtured him since he was knee high.

Perhaps we should be showing some faith and belief in our better players rather than thinking of them as assets that can be cashed in,

If we thought of him merely as an asset, we'd have sold him before now and touted him round the clubs with money. Truth is, every single player has their price and a million and one differing variables on their opinions, needs, wants, demands and situations. Hopefully we'll have got a price that at the very least reflects his current worth.

no doubt to fund another useless link-up with a foreign team that will get pushed down our throats, or to buy players who won't even get played.

Until Kyle Naughton, the very same thing was said about the academy, week in week out.

Believe me, having watched the kid come through the ranks from youth to where he is today, i'm pretty sad he looks to be off.... But its nowhere near as simple as a "lack of ambition" or being a "selling club". Every club in the world is a selling club.

 

[DazBlade88]

It is good business to sell players for alot of money, I can see the point of them doing that.

But it's also good to have a team capable of getting to the Premiership, where the income is better and easier to come by. If we keep selling our players, we aren't going to get to the Premiership, so it's always going to be a continuous cycle for us.

I'm not surprised he's going, because I've never known us not sell, it's the fact that the board have told all the fans we don't need to sell, then sold anyway.

Right now, looking at our squad I think we'll be lucky to reach the play-offs. We're being linked with alot of players, but what people are failing to realise are that the better players that are capable of getting us to the top level, don't really want to come and play for Kevin Blackwell.

 

[Kev Gee]

I agree with matt & Shorham.

Another kick in the teeth for us Blades!

 

[Deleted member 1486]

I'd have snapped their hands off at £6million tbh. He's an excellent player and was one of the highlights of last season but:

1. He has no top flight experience and under one year's first team experience against, for the most part, poor quality championship teams. So £6mill, if that is the figure, IS a large fee.

2. Right back is probably our strongest position with both Naughton and Walker there (and a number of other players able to play there). Naughton looked OK at left back while filling for Naysmith but I'd rather have Naysmith there and one of the Kyles on the right. I said it before on this forum; they are both amazing talents and I'd go as far to say they are both better than anything we've had in that position for a long long time. Assuming the management/coaches believe that both players are best suited to the right back position (which I think is a fair assumption to make) then it's common sense that we aren't going to be able to promise them both that they will consistently be in the first team. For what it's worth, I think Walker is the more promising of the two (not that my opinion is based on anything other than the handful of games he played towards the end of last season).

3. We're not a rich club. We're not Real Madrid, Man United or AC Milan. Someone earlier in this thread mentioned £5mill profit from the property deals. If that was the money mentioned in the Star recently (it was actually £6 million) that was pre-tax and pre-interest. I'm no financial expert but I'd say that's a clever way of hiding a loss (considering the main cost in buying/building property IS interest).

If you were to ask someone to come in and independently assess the financial value of our current squad (SQUAD, not club) what do you think the value would be? £10 mill £15 20? maybe you would really push the boat out and say £25mill? Whatever way you look at it we don't have £66 million worth of talent in the first team (11 x £6million).

What I'm trying to get at is this: if it's a fair offer (and I believe it is; see no 1 above) then selling a player that's worth a LOT more than average price of the rest of the team can be beneficial if the money is reinvested back into the squad. You can raise the value of the squad overall with the money (ie: buy better players and strengthen the team). When you've got a ready made replacement in the same position it's a no-brainer.

4. I was fuming when we sold Deane/Fjortoft, I was gutted when Jagielka went, I wasn't happy when we sold Beattie. This one? If the money is right (and if it's £6mill then I think that is right) and is invested back into the first team (NOT property, please McCabe!!!), is spent well on positions/players we need and has been orchestrated by the manager and not the board then I can live with it.

 

[keenzy]

Im worried about blackwell and having a few million ponds to spend.
Im worried at the club telling lies. again.

McCabe is the best chairman ever people say..... but he can't half lie.