Cometh Monday, cometh the Man. We'll do this!

[metalblade]

More chance of Morgan playing than Collins.

 

[Latters]

Clough's post-match interview hardly suggested we're going to go down there and give it a right good go. His words were something along the lines of "we only need one goal" and "if we keep it tight and nick one in the last ten minutes that will be good enough."

I can, unfortunately, see a limp and weak end to a limp and weak season. We will go down there and try to keep it tight against a team that knows they don't have to score again. It'll be a game of very few chances and two cagey teams. I would say nil nil if we ever kept clean sheets any more, but unfortunately I predict 1-0 to Swindon, with very little fight from us and them nicking one just before half time.

It's such a shame seeing how we seem to have just given up on going for it after exciting, attacking football got us where it did last season.

 

[FTPE]

Clough's post-match interview hardly suggested we're going to go down there and give it a right good go. His words were something along the lines of "we only need one goal" and "if we keep it tight and nick one in the last ten minutes that will be good enough."

I can, unfortunately, see a limp and weak end to a limp and weak season. We will go down there and try to keep it tight against a team that knows they don't have to score again. It'll be a game of very few chances and two cagey teams. I would say nil nil if we ever kept clean sheets any more, but unfortunately I predict 1-0 to Swindon, with very little fight from us and them nicking one just before half time.

It's such a shame seeing how we seem to have just given up on going for it after exciting, attacking football got us where it did last season.

To be honest not much of my optimism came from that interview.
He seemed frustrated more at the referee and the injuries than the result. He's not going to go balls to the wall early on, I don't expect mcnulty, done, Davies and Che to all start but he's right- we only need one goal and it's game on!!

 

[raul]

The interview sounded like a new guy coming in and highlighting the shortfalls of the squad he's inherited to show what a massive job he has on his hands.

If he's prepared to accept no responsibility for the imbalances and weaknesses in the squad , then I don't want him here next season.

 

[FTPE]

The interview sounded like a new guy coming in and highlighting the shortfalls of the squad he's inherited to show what a massive job he has on his hands.

If he's prepared to accept no responsibility for the imbalances and weaknesses in the squad , then I don't want him here next season.

It did in a way, the part where he said they've been working on defending set pieces all season worried me the most.

 

[Latters]

To be honest not much of my optimism came from that interview.
He seemed frustrated more at the referee and the injuries than the result. He's not going to go balls to the wall early on, I don't expect mcnulty, done, Davies and Che to all start but he's right- we only need one goal and it's game on!!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not basing my pessimism on the interview alone. The whole season I've seen go before us has formed my view for me.

I wasn't a fan of Warnock's, but under him, even at a goal or two down with ten minutes to go, you were confident we had enough in the locker to get back into a game because we would constantly try to get the ball in the opposition's box. Now is completely the opposite. If we're lucky, we go a goal up. But then, you just know we're going to try to sit on the lead, not be good or tight enough to do so, and then end up conceding.

Wilson showed that he learned from what he saw on the pitch. In his first season we were the best attacking team in the division by a mile. Once we lost a few of our attacking players, did he stubbornly persist with the same formula with players it wouldn't have worked with? No, he had to adapt according to what he had available and made us tight at the back. We ended up being one of the best defensive teams in the division.

Clough will not look at the situation and think "right, we've got to win here, and we have some good attacking talent for this level, we need to go for it." He'll likely have us sat deep, trying not to concede and maybe nick one if we're lucky. What this usually leads to is us conceding, not scoring.

If there had been evidence this season to suggest this won't happen I might have a ray of hope that we'll get back into it. Our manager and style of play suggest we won't.

My God, I hope I'm wrong.

 

[FTPE]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not basing my pessimism on the interview alone. The whole season I've seen go before us has formed my view for me.

I wasn't a fan of Warnock's, but under him, even at a goal or two down with ten minutes to go, you were confident we had enough in the locker to get back into a game because we would constantly try to get the ball in the opposition's box. Now is completely the opposite. If we're lucky, we go a goal up. But then, you just know we're going to try to sit on the lead, not be good or tight enough to do so, and then end up conceding.

Wilson showed that he learned from what he saw on the pitch. In his first season we were the best attacking team in the division by a mile. Once we lost a few of our attacking players, did he stubbornly persist with the same formula with players it wouldn't have worked with? No, he had to adapt according to what he had available and made us tight at the back. We ended up being one of the best defensive teams in the division.

Clough will not look at the situation and think "right, we've got to win here, and we have some good attacking talent for this level, we need to go for it." He'll likely have us sat deep, trying not to concede and maybe nick one if we're lucky. What this usually leads to is us conceding, not scoring.

If there had been evidence this season to suggest this won't happen I might have a ray of hope that we'll get back into it. Our manager and style of play suggest we won't.

My God, I hope I'm wrong.

Is it bad that my counter argument was bringing on Che against Tottenham? He really changed the game(like Done almost did Thursday) but even that didn't end well.

 

[Latters]

Is it bad that my counter argument was bringing on Che against Tottenham? He really changed the game(like Done almost did Thursday) but even that didn't end well.

It isn't really a counter-argument though. If anything it strengthens my view that Clough is either too stubborn, or doesn't learn.

Adams did change the game when he came on, yet we've hardly seen him since. To me, that performance suggested he should have been coming off the bench a lot more, to run at tired legs. Instead Clough has chosen not to utilise him or this attribute and often brought players on who he would see as keeping it tight. Invariably it hasn't worked. We look at our best when pushing forward. I just want us to play to our strengths.

 

[FTPE]

It isn't really a counter-argument though. If anything it strengthens my view that Clough is either too stubborn, or doesn't learn.

Adams did change the game when he came on, yet we've hardly seen him since. To me, that performance suggested he should have been coming off the bench a lot more, to run at tired legs. Instead Clough has chosen not to utilise him or this attribute and often brought players on who he would see as keeping it tight. Invariably it hasn't worked. We look at our best when pushing forward. I just want us to play to our strengths.

That's what I mean, the one point I had is irrelevant because it just shows clough's stubbornness and failure to learn from his mistakes.
My biggest gripe this season has been not having a consistent starting 11. I know we've played a lot of games but even the spine of the team has been chopped n changed every single week.

 

[Silent Blade]

Couts and Holt are the new McGovern and OHare.

UTB

Ha ha, like this one!. L**ds fans didnt rate McGovern but they liked O'Hare. Coutts and McGovern is a good comparison but O'Hare and Holt are different types

 

[super_pig]

we ll win 1 - 0 and lose on pens
jesus on the bench.. not quite 100 % due to recent crucifixion..may get ten minutes at the end

 

[super_pig]

“Scouggs is out, yes,” Clough said. “It’s his hamstring. John maybe.
“John, we’ll see how he is.”

John?? who the f*ck is John