COH - Boycott time yet?

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

Why do you think he’s not being listened to? What does he do all day?

My post posited 2 possibilities so I'm not sure why you're making out like one them is what I think more than the other. I'm open minded to both possibilities.

That said, I've heard tell of an instance where Hoyland has put forward a candidate that he liked. The candidate got put into the AI system and Hoyland was told "computer says no". No idea if that's an exception or a regular occurrence, might not even be true given what football gossip is like, but certainly seems plausible.

 

[Sean Thornton]

My post posited 2 possibilities so I'm not sure why you're making out like one them is what I think more than the other. I'm open minded to both possibilities.

That said, I've heard tell of an instance where Hoyland has put forward a candidate that he liked. The candidate got put into the AI system and Hoyland was told "computer says no". No idea if that's an exception or a regular occurrence, might not even be true given what football gossip is like, but certainly seems plausible.

I edited my post.

It’s amazing that not one purveyor of inside info is seemingly never told about anything even remotely positive. Didn’t you think to mention this before? It seems relevant the way things are.

 

[wak1889]

You can pin the error of Selles on them but going back to Wilder what were they thinking.

Well as they needed a new manager and were already paying him maybe they thought we may as well let him earn his money

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

I edited my post.

It’s amazing that not one purveyor of inside info is seemingly never told about anything even remotely positive. Didn’t you think to mention this before? It seems relevant the way things are.

I only heard this story about 10 days ago, not been on the forum much lately, but I'm glad you value my input.

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

You got a spare 100 million.

I'd rather they got it right than got gone.

I think we'd all rather them get it right than gone. But there's nothing to indicate they will get it right. Absolutely nothing.

 

[Chris the Blade]

Could all throw tennis balls on the pitch like other fan bases.

 

[Nick Jansky]

I was vocal in my desire to hound the Prince out of the club, because he took years to sell us despite admitting he couldn't take us further forward. However he did at least oversee 3 promotions and our greatest ever season in the Premier League so I understood why fans were hesitant to go too hard on him as he certainly did give us some very good times.

In other words, you were completely wrong, and have just admitted it.

And yet here you go again. Obviously, you will be ignored again, same as last time. You are the Tom Cannon of wannabe rabble rousers.

You also seem to have a very unhealthy obsession with constantly wanting to do this sort of thing. I wonder what the roots of that are?

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

In other words, you were completely wrong, and have just admitted it.

And yet here you go again. Obviously, you will be ignored again, same as last time. You are the Tom Cannon of wannabe rabble rousers.

You also seem to have a very unhealthy obsession with constantly wanting to do this sort of thing. I wonder what the roots of that are?

It's called "giving a shit". You should try it sometime.

 

[Nick Jansky]

It's called "giving a shit". You should try it sometime.

I’ve been giving a shit about this club for a lot longer than you have. I was a part of the cohort that persuaded Brealey that his time was up. In the pre internet days it was far more difficult to establish a protest movement than it is today, but we managed it. Whereas you’re not being very competent at it at all.

Fortunately, I don’t suffer from emotional incontinence and I don’t rush thoughtlessly to advocate for protests like a rat diving into a barrel of shit. It’s called understanding the longer game and recognising the fights you can win and the ones you can’t and when those fights should take place. Intelligence, if you like. You should try it sometime.

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

I’ve been giving a shit about this club for a lot longer than you have. I was a part of the cohort that persuaded Brealey that his time was up. In the pre internet days it was far more difficult to establish a protest movement than it is today, but we managed it. Whereas you’re not being very competent at it at all.

Fortunately, I don’t suffer from emotional incontinence and I don’t rush thoughtlessly to advocate for protests like a rat diving into a barrel of shit. It’s called understanding the longer game and recognising the fights you can win and the ones you can’t and when those fights should take place. Intelligence, if you like. You should try it sometime.

Ousting Reg Brealey? Talk about living off former glories. I don't give a shit about being competent at organising anything, I care about getting the chat going.. letting others who feel like me know they are not alone and hoping the board see that some fans have already seen them for the charlatans they are and aren't going to gladly suffer much more. Full disclosure on the poll (which is what this thread is, rather than whatever you think it is), I voted "not yet", season tickets aren't up for renewal til March/April so we may as well see what happens in the JTW.

 

[Carlton Blade]

Would you support a boycott to speed up the ousting of COH as owners of our club?

It worked for the pigs, and Chansiri actually splashed the cash in the early years...last Summer's window with parachute payments was our last real chance and the signings were abysmal overall, certainly no sign of intent of giving it a good go this season. Obviously ridiculous sacking Wilder for Selles also. I really have no idea why they bought us, totally out of their depth and unable to take us forwards, and worse than that.. backwards.

So do they deserve any more transfer windows to turn it around or should the boycott start now?

I'd just stop going because why am I paying money for shit? Fuck that

 

[Sean Thornton]

I only heard this story about 10 days ago, not been on the forum much lately, but I'm glad you value my input.

Were you boycotting?

Just like l do Tom Cannon’s

 

[100% part time blade]

I was vocal in my desire to hound the Prince out of the club, because he took years to sell us despite admitting he couldn't take us further forward. However he did at least oversee 3 promotions and our greatest ever season in the Premier League so I understood why fans were hesitant to go too hard on him as he certainly did give us some very good times.

I'm a firm believer that a stitch in time saves nine, I think the concept that we should wait until the club is in absolute tatters like the pigs did before boycotting is insane.

Look how far these owners have dragged us down in MONTHS, I'm not sure any new owner of any club has managed a nosedive quite like this before? GET THEM GONE!

As a genuine question, what do you think fans of the 24 clubs in the championship should demand of their owners before hounding them out?

My view is that all owners should at all costs safeguard the future of each football club, balancing the books through relegation, promotion, success and failure.

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

As a genuine question, what do you think fans of the 24 clubs in the championship should demand of their owners before hounding them out?

My view is that all owners should at all costs safeguard the future of each football club, balancing the books through relegation, promotion, success and failure.

Each clubs fans should have different standards relative to their recent history. Context matters hugely.

In the event of new owners coming in whilst in the hunt for automatic promotion, you'd expect them to be able to have funds for a decent stab at Premier League survival, and certainly the funds for a top championship campaign.

Since they don't seem to have the finance to do either then it's beyond my comprehension why spend £115m on buying us. They've been abysmal so far and why any "fans" would be keen to make these clowns feel welcome for much longer is also beyond me.

See how much damage they did in 8 months? Imagine how much more they could do in 8 years.

 

[derfblade.3]

Each clubs fans should have different standards relative to their recent history. Context matters hugely.

In the event of new owners coming in whilst in the hunt for automatic promotion, you'd expect them to be able to have funds for a decent stab at Premier League survival, and certainly the funds for a top championship campaign.

Since they don't seem to have the finance to do either then it's beyond my comprehension why spend £115m on buying us. They've been abysmal so far and why any "fans" would be keen to make these clowns feel welcome for much longer is also beyond me.

See how much damage they did in 8 months? Imagine how much more they could do in 8 years.

I get your points but think ousting them would just cause more unwanted turmoil in an already disasterous season.
If the gamble of getting Wilder out and Selles in had worked out then all would be well' Sadly it went in the opposite direction but they had the balls to admit the huge mistake.
We need to wait and see how well they back Wilder in the next transfer window .
Getting rid of the dross brought in by Selles is the key as is the new faces that come in. If they do this and retrieve the season then build well next summer things could be much different, so for me they should be given a chance to get it right.

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

I get your points but think ousting them would just cause more unwanted turmoil in an already disasterous season.
If the gamble of getting Wilder out and Selles in had worked out then all would be well' Sadly it went in the opposite direction but they had the balls to admit the huge mistake.
We need to wait and see how well they back Wilder in the next transfer window .
Getting rid of the dross brought in by Selles is the key as is the new faces that come in. If they do this and retrieve the season then build well next summer things could be much different, so for me they should be given a chance to get it right.

I think your use of the word "gamble" there is very telling. Because that's exactly what Selles was, there was no evidence on his CV that he could achieve promotion. Then player recruitment went the same way.. out with proven quality like Souza and Anel, in with dross like McGuinness and Matos. Do we want mad gamblers running the club? Honestly to me it feels like they're playing a real life football version of the 1980s board game Go For Broke at the moment and if so they are world class at it.

JTW is usually a disappointment, but it's absolutely make or break for them now after such a disastrous start to their tenure.

 

[Bladeloyal]

Ousting Reg Brealey? Talk about living off former glories. I don't give a shit about being competent at organising anything, I care about getting the chat going.. letting others who feel like me know they are not alone and hoping the board see that some fans have already seen them for the charlatans they are and aren't going to gladly suffer much more. Full disclosure on the poll (which is what this thread is, rather than whatever you think it is), I voted "not yet", season tickets aren't up for renewal til March/April so we may as well see what happens in the JTW.

Remember without former glories there wouldn't be future ones

 

[Zero dark thirty]

Would you support a boycott to speed up the ousting of COH as owners of our club?

It worked for the pigs, and Chansiri actually splashed the cash in the early years...last Summer's window with parachute payments was our last real chance and the signings were abysmal overall, certainly no sign of intent of giving it a good go this season. Obviously ridiculous sacking Wilder for Selles also. I really have no idea why they bought us, totally out of their depth and unable to take us forwards, and worse than that.. backwards.

So do they deserve any more transfer windows to turn it around or should the boycott start now?

Doing a good job tbf

 

[Maidenhead]

Would you support a boycott to speed up the ousting of COH as owners of our club?

It worked for the pigs, and Chansiri actually splashed the cash in the early years...last Summer's window with parachute payments was our last real chance and the signings were abysmal overall, certainly no sign of intent of giving it a good go this season. Obviously ridiculous sacking Wilder for Selles also. I really have no idea why they bought us, totally out of their depth and unable to take us forwards, and worse than that.. backwards.

So do they deserve any more transfer windows to turn it around or should the boycott start now?

"It worked for the pigs" by putting them in to administration.

You really think that's a great victory for the fans?

I think you're just a poor WUM with a statement like that.

 

[FredZeppelin]

I don't think the majority of Blades want the owners to "splash the cash" like Wednesday fans did and, to a certain extent, still do.

I think the majority of us want a stable club, living within its means, making well thought out, reasoned decisions about new players and club infrastructure. All we want to see is steady progress, not recession.

The really worrying thing is the the owners, in their complete naivety, have taken advice on recruitment from some terrible sources. That is what Chansiri did and we all know what happened there. They MUST listen and take action quickly.

Seek the knowledge of experienced football people to put an overseeing Director of Football in, sack the pathetic recruitment team, and have the new Dof F appoint his own people and a new manager that is going to take us forward with an effective culture that reflects both modern football and one that builds upon the success of the academy.

There are no guarantees that anything will ever work but what we have at the moment is definitely not working. It's pathetic to watch everything unfolding like this.

Bettis and Wilder like nothing more that being surrounded by their 'own boys in their own culture'. It's comfortable and unchallenging for them but their time should be up.

Act now COH!

utb

 

[54yrblade]

The owners will only go if they get what they want to sell up.

Talk of a boycott is pointless.
The fanbase has sucked up mediocrity and embarrassment on the pitch in the last few years with no more than an occasional boo, or a slightly miffed 'it's a grumble Adam' to meekly rock up again and be dished up a diet of minimal goals, poor quality play and 70s based clichés from CW.

The ground 'atmosphere' has been crap since we bombed out of the PL in CW's first term. Even then, the atmosphere was better under Warnock's tenure in those semi final and played off seasons. Much better.

Apathy reigns now.

Apart from that, everything's just grand.

Anyone else watching from behind the settee tonight?

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Personally, I can live with angry people making outlandish statements about the club we all love. But I must admit I’m starting to feel my biggest fear is finally coming true…I felt absolutely nothing about Saturdays debacle at the lane.This creeping indifference is a much more concerning for me than some angry bedwetters on here talking bollocks.

 

[Bladeloyal]

This site has gone to the dogs

 

[HackeyBlade]

Personally, I can live with angry people making outlandish statements about the club we all love. But I must admit I’m starting to feel my biggest fear is finally coming true…I felt absolutely nothing about Saturdays debacle at the lane.This creeping indifference is a much more concerning for me than some angry bedwetters on here talking bollocks.

This is where I'm at with it, total and utter apathy. At 35 I'm a young whipper snapper compared to some of the old timers on here so no I never saw the division 4 days, but something about the last playoff final broke me and I don't know if that can ever be repaired

 

[ShockingBadBuy]

Boycott time..


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A much better blocker than McGuiness or Mee, tbf.

 

[Bell4]

We really have some entitled nut jobs

 

[derfblade.3]

This is where I'm at with it, total and utter apathy. At 35 I'm a young whipper snapper compared to some of the old timers on here so no I never saw the division 4 days, but something about the last playoff final broke me and I don't know if that can ever be repaired

It will be repaired because time heals.....until the next one. I'm 72 and saw us plummet into Div 4 and it was murder but the Div 4 season was amazing as we smashed teams to win promotion ,so the good feelings returned.
The up's and downs since have been an absolute roller coaster, winning when you thought we would lose and visa versa.
My biggest disappointment was The Wolves playoff final in 2003 where i was certain we would win but found ourselves 3-0 down at half time. I stood there feeling shellshocked and the journey home was a nightmare.
The Sunderland game was the same.
What i would give just to see us win a trophy but i reckon i'm running out of time
Keep the faith. UTB!

 

[CarlMcBlade]

This is where I'm at with it, total and utter apathy. At 35 I'm a young whipper snapper compared to some of the old timers on here so no I never saw the division 4 days, but something about the last playoff final broke me and I don't know if that can ever be repaired

Yes, thank God for season tickets, because if I didn’t have one, I really don’t think I’d bother.
But conversely I really do look forward to my days out at the match, I’m 58 so those important years bringing up kids and working my arse off to pay the mortgage are largely behind me. But I’ve always been determined not to let performance of 11 wankers on the pitch spoil my weekends or match day rituals…But somehow this season feels different.

 

[LBA_Blade]

The board are to blame although a boycott isn't exactly going to get you anywhere especially when they already have our cash from the season tickets and people are willing to pay the high matchday prices for Championship football. Although completely out of his depth and his CV was literally keeping Hull up and getting Reading into the playoffs, that being said Selles was basically given 6 weeks with a squad and then lost 3 of the best players from that, with panic buys to fill in some gaps where we ended up with more CB's than any other position, we could have 6 CBs playing before we even dip into the academy. Maybe that could be a new formation GK - 6 CBs in rows of 3 and 4 up front? But on a serious note, the early loan transfers besides the AI fun were Selles inspired so you can see why Wilder would want rid but that also can't be doing the team morale any good. Are the likes of Bindon and Godfrey (if here) are actually training with the first team? I have seen that Zätterström has been in the U21s squad with Bindon on the odd occasion is he training with the first team too ?

It would have been interesting FM style to play the season out with Sean Dyche, Gary O’Neil, or Steve Cooper in charge to see if anything else would have been different, I imagine Mee and Ings would have signed sooner under Dyche but would have the results have been different. We would have 100% likely not have signed Bindon under any of those 3.

 

[HackeyBlade]

I like to compare it to being with a bird for ages, been through thick and thin and they do/say something that they can't take back and you can't forget, and it permanently changes your opinion of her. So you decide to have a break, but in the meantime you realise you don't actually miss her and you find someone/something else to fill the void.

I'm at the break stage right now and I still love her (United) but I'm hurting and right now I need some time away to see if it's ever gonna work out. And by work out I don't mean become the next Man City