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Just noticed this in the Sheffield Telegraph. Good to see Cloughie patting Morgs and goalkeeping coach Darren Ward on the back for their work. Clough said both have been 'magnificent', so it's good to know that Clough's man management extends to his staff. You've got to give it to Nigel, his ability to organise, see the bigger picture, and appreciate the contribution of those around him, is adding to his reputation on a daily basis. We're one lucky club to have secured NC's services. Arguably the best decision McCabe has made as Chairman.
 

Just noticed this in the Sheffield Telegraph. Good to see Cloughie patting Morgs and goalkeeping coach Darren Ward on the back for their work. Clough said both have been 'magnificent', so it's good to know that Clough's man management extends to his staff. You've got to give it to Nigel, his ability to organise, see the bigger picture, and appreciate the contribution of those around him, is adding to his reputation on a daily basis. We're one lucky club to have secured NC's services. Arguably the best decision McCabe has made as Chairman.

Very early, but I'd say its McCabes best decision. I'm thinking more and more that Clough is the best suited manager to our club, our situation and our board. He's certainly the man to take us forward
 
Once again Pinchy was spot on with his assesment of Morgan's ability and career prospects.
How does he do it?

  1. Morgan is a useless cunt. Sack him now.
Pinchy,Oct 13, 2013
  1. As a manager or coach, he is rhubarb. He'll be on his way before the end of the season and quite right too.
Pinchy,Oct 13, 2013

  1. Morgan is a 'useless cunt' as a coach or manager and should be moved on as soon as possible.
Pinchy,Oct 11, 2013
  1. I got the distinct impression that Morgan will not have a role with the first team. My guess is he will be gone by Christmas.
Pinchy,Jun 21, 2013
 
Once again Pinchy was spot on with his assesment of Morgan's ability and career prospects.
How does he do it?

  1. Morgan is a useless cunt. Sack him now.
Pinchy,Oct 13, 2013
  1. As a manager or coach, he is rhubarb. He'll be on his way before the end of the season and quite right too.
Pinchy,Oct 13, 2013

  1. Morgan is a 'useless cunt' as a coach or manager and should be moved on as soon as possible.
Pinchy,Oct 11, 2013
  1. I got the distinct impression that Morgan will not have a role with the first team. My guess is he will be gone by Christmas.
Pinchy,Jun 21, 2013

I wonder if you could unearth a few quotations from those who wanted Morgan as manager in preference to Nigel?

One of Nigel's many gifts as a manager appears to be man-management. Spirits are very high and he is, rightly, keeping morale high by spreading the praise that really belongs to him.

Morgan was, is and will be, a useless manager. How close do you think he gets to our first team? Yeah, Morgs, you're great, now just toddle off over there and look after the development squad, will you? Right, now we'll get on with the first team.

How many positions has old Muckanettles been offered as Manager? As first-team coach? Anywhere?

The silence is deafening and tells you all you need to know.

Oh, and a bit of advance notice for the future - Brian Deane will never make a manager either.

Have a Bladey day.
 
I wonder if you could unearth a few quotations from those who wanted Morgan as manager in preference to Nigel?

One of Nigel's many gifts as a manager appears to be man-management. Spirits are very high and he is, rightly, keeping morale high by spreading the praise that really belongs to him.

Morgan was, is and will be, a useless manager. How close do you think he gets to our first team? Yeah, Morgs, you're great, now just toddle off over there and look after the development squad, will you? Right, now we'll get on with the first team.

How many positions has old Muckanettles been offered as Manager? As first-team coach? Anywhere?

The silence is deafening and tells you all you need to know.

Oh, and a bit of advance notice for the future - Brian Deane will never make a manager either.

Have a Bladey day.

So in a nutshell you are swerving around a bit but kind of admitting you got it wrong about Clough by now directing this conversation towards Morgan by knocking his managerial ability / credentials knowing full well that you can't be proved wrong on this one for at least a while until he ever manages anyone?.

Chris Morgan always had a position at United for me. Ok he wouldn't have been my first choice as manager but I feel he has so much to give the club and team as a whole in a coaching capacity. He's Sheffield United through and through and loves the club, he's a no nonsense bloke who wants to do well and says what he thinks which also means he doesn't take any bull. Watching him on the sideline with Clough you can see Morgs plays a huge part in the motivational side of things and the overall blend of the management team for me is spot on and one of the best in a long while.
 
Not much substance amidst the Bladey, S2 waffle, is there.

"Knows the club...so much to give...says what he thinks....SUFC through and through....etc...etc."

None of that has anything to do with his ability to coach or manage a football team. It could apply to the groundsman, the tea lady or the office cat.

What you, and other Bladey S2 Blades, are saying is: "Good old Morgs, he gets stuck in, been around a long time, give him a job".

Precisely the sort of ludicrous attitude that also demands "Bring back Steady/Cotts/Blackman/ Insert random mediocrity who once played for us. Precisely the sort of myopic parochialism that pervades and embarrasses our club - We'd have Dinosaur Dave and Ol' Big Nose as joint directors of Hoofball if many of you got what you actually want. That's why you want to laud Morgan at the expense of the excellent manager we've actually got. There'd have been 6000 chanting Morgan's name at Villa, if he were in charge. For the man who really deserves praise; whose laces Morgan will never be fit to tie - nothing!

So, it really goes like this for Bladey Blades -
Good result - thank heaven we've got Morgan on the coaching staff.
Bad result - blame Clough - give it to good old Muckanettles - Upanatem.

What you carefully ignore of course, is that we've seen Morgan the Manager - we saw how well he can cope with a big match at Yeovil - "I thought we might be able to nick a goal...We played well!!!" Brilliant Morgs, Brilliant!

We've also seen his unremarkable tenure with the development squad, where, apparently, he had to be told to revise his coaching methods to accommodate playing football.

If he had any ability at all someone would have given him a job by now. There's plenty of managerial and coaching positions becoming vacant all the time in football - your hero never gets a mention, does he? Still he's loyal and hard working; he can head a ball and kick it a long way. He's been around a long time...

It's the Bladesfans' Way.
 
A couple of points;

I wasn't keen on the appointment of Clough. I've warmed to it enormously and I'm not looking to be proved correct on this.

His contribution so far is to steer us into the 4th round of the cup, and lift us to about 3 points above relegation to the 4th tier.

Whilst I accept the signs are good and we should all feel a lot happier right now, let's dispense with the "it's clear we've got the right man for the job" nonsense that was also trotted out 4 months into Danny Wilson's reign and forgotten about 24 months later after we sacked him.

Let's enjoy it for what it is, and not celebrate what it isn't, yet at least.

UTB
 
I wanted Morgs as manager and on that I would have been wrong as Clough is turning out to be a good appointment. I do find Pinchy's views on Morgan completely out of order given Morgs contribution to the club.
 
I wanted Morgs as manager and on that I would have been wrong as Clough is turning out to be a good appointment. I do find Pinchy's views on Morgan completely out of order given Morgs contribution to the club.


On second reading I see Pinchy was referring to Morgs ability as a coach or manager. Ok
 
Not much substance amidst the Bladey, S2 waffle, is there.

"Knows the club...so much to give...says what he thinks....SUFC through and through....etc...etc."

None of that has anything to do with his ability to coach or manage a football team. It could apply to the groundsman, the tea lady or the office cat.

What you, and other Bladey S2 Blades, are saying is: "Good old Morgs, he gets stuck in, been around a long time, give him a job".

Precisely the sort of ludicrous attitude that also demands "Bring back Steady/Cotts/Blackman/ Insert random mediocrity who once played for us. Precisely the sort of myopic parochialism that pervades and embarrasses our club - We'd have Dinosaur Dave and Ol' Big Nose as joint directors of Hoofball if many of you got what you actually want. That's why you want to laud Morgan at the expense of the excellent manager we've actually got. There'd have been 6000 chanting Morgan's name at Villa, if he were in charge. For the man who really deserves praise; whose laces Morgan will never be fit to tie - nothing!

So, it really goes like this for Bladey Blades -
Good result - thank heaven we've got Morgan on the coaching staff.
Bad result - blame Clough - give it to good old Muckanettles - Upanatem.

What you carefully ignore of course, is that we've seen Morgan the Manager - we saw how well he can cope with a big match at Yeovil - "I thought we might be able to nick a goal...We played well!!!" Brilliant Morgs, Brilliant!

We've also seen his unremarkable tenure with the development squad, where, apparently, he had to be told to revise his coaching methods to accommodate playing football.

If he had any ability at all someone would have given him a job by now. There's plenty of managerial and coaching positions becoming vacant all the time in football - your hero never gets a mention, does he? Still he's loyal and hard working; he can head a ball and kick it a long way. He's been around a long time...

It's the Bladesfans' Way.

<< Morgs and Darren (Ward) have been absolutely magnificent for us,” Clough said. “Completely first class.
“The pair of them have proven to be invaluable since we came in and credit to them for that. >>

You miss the point that it's Clough going out of his way to praise Morgan's contribution not "Bladey Blade" fans.
I think his opinion carries slightly more weight none than your obsessive hatred of anybody associated with our more successful managers.
 
Interesting to note that Ryan Flynn had been virtually frozen out of the first team well ahead of Weir's departure - he couldn't get a look in. Morgan's first line-up brought him back in, and he's been heavily involved since - with Saturday giving us arguably his best performance in a United shirt. Is it not fairly logical to assume that as part of Morgan's involvement in the backroom staff, getting Flynn back involved would have been something he pushed?
 
Not much substance amidst the Bladey, S2 waffle, is there.

"Knows the club...so much to give...says what he thinks....SUFC through and through....etc...etc."

None of that has anything to do with his ability to coach or manage a football team. It could apply to the groundsman, the tea lady or the office cat.

What you, and other Bladey S2 Blades, are saying is: "Good old Morgs, he gets stuck in, been around a long time, give him a job".

Precisely the sort of ludicrous attitude that also demands "Bring back Steady/Cotts/Blackman/ Insert random mediocrity who once played for us. Precisely the sort of myopic parochialism that pervades and embarrasses our club - We'd have Dinosaur Dave and Ol' Big Nose as joint directors of Hoofball if many of you got what you actually want. That's why you want to laud Morgan at the expense of the excellent manager we've actually got. There'd have been 6000 chanting Morgan's name at Villa, if he were in charge. For the man who really deserves praise; whose laces Morgan will never be fit to tie - nothing!

So, it really goes like this for Bladey Blades -
Good result - thank heaven we've got Morgan on the coaching staff.
Bad result - blame Clough - give it to good old Muckanettles - Upanatem.

What you carefully ignore of course, is that we've seen Morgan the Manager - we saw how well he can cope with a big match at Yeovil - "I thought we might be able to nick a goal...We played well!!!" Brilliant Morgs, Brilliant!

We've also seen his unremarkable tenure with the development squad, where, apparently, he had to be told to revise his coaching methods to accommodate playing football.

If he had any ability at all someone would have given him a job by now. There's plenty of managerial and coaching positions becoming vacant all the time in football - your hero never gets a mention, does he? Still he's loyal and hard working; he can head a ball and kick it a long way. He's been around a long time...

It's the Bladesfans' Way.

I do agree with some of your sentiments about parochialism, however I think Morgan's contribution to this season is greater than you say. In the 3 games under his interim management, the team broke a 13 match winless run, collected a first away point, and kept a first clean sheet away from home. They scored 4 goals in his first 2 matches - the same total as in the 11 previous games under Weir. Clough also gave Morgan a lot of the credit for the 3-1 win against Crewe, although as you say - that could have just been sensible PR.

Last season's denouement was a crushing disappointment, but it is possible to learn from disappointment. Whilst I am pleased that we didn't just continue with Morgan in charge, and Clough obviously has a vast deal more experience in all aspects of running a club, the notion that Morgan never has and never will never be of any worth seems a bit wide of the mark.

Let's just be happy though that we have a manager it seems we can be proud of, and let's start chanting his name in some form!
 
Once again Pinchy was spot on with his assesment of Morgan's ability and career prospects.
How does he do it?

  1. Morgan is a useless cunt. Sack him now.
Pinchy,Oct 13, 2013
  1. As a manager or coach, he is rhubarb. He'll be on his way before the end of the season and quite right too.
Pinchy,Oct 13, 2013

  1. Morgan is a 'useless cunt' as a coach or manager and should be moved on as soon as possible.
Pinchy,Oct 11, 2013
  1. I got the distinct impression that Morgan will not have a role with the first team. My guess is he will be gone by Christmas.
Pinchy,Jun 21, 2013

Hey that's not fair. Pinchy is usually spot on with his predictions.
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Not much substance amidst the Bladey, S2 waffle, is there.

"Knows the club...so much to give...says what he thinks....SUFC through and through....etc...etc."

None of that has anything to do with his ability to coach or manage a football team. .

but the results since hes assisted Clough have improved beyond most fan s wildest dreams , beginning of october we were 100% certs for league 2 with as you put it this shit squad ,
well clough and morgan have taken said shit squad , and nurtured it to current 4th best on form and winning at a prem ground all in 14 weeks

lets not forget where we were when they took over
0Stevenage 9-10
21Tranmere Rover 9 9
22Bristol City 8-6
23Notts. County 9 4-
24Sheffield United 9 -4
and totally deserved as we werent a team
its not like theyve inherited a warnock squad , or even a blackwell squad they are dragging the remnants of last seasons eventual failures, and to blame Morgan for losing at Yeovil when he took over a dispirited side is wrong , he just didnt have the tools
 
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I had to edit that as I was angry. I despair what people publish on the internet, I really do.
 
but the results since hes assisted Clough have improved beyond most fan s wildest dreams , beginning of october we were 100% certs for league 2 with as you put it this shit squad ,
well clough and morgan have taken said shit squad , and nurtured it to current 4th best on form and winning at a prem ground all in 14 weeks

lets not forget where we were when they took over
0Stevenage 9-10
21Tranmere Rover 9 9
22Bristol City 8-6
23Notts. County 9 4-
24Sheffield United 9 -4
and totally deserved as we werent a team
its not like theyve inherited a warnock squad , or even a blackwell squad they are dragging the remnants of last seasons eventual failures, and to blame Morgan for losing at Yeovil when he took over a dispirited side is wrong , he just didnt have the tools

When "they" took over??? This is a Clough/Morgan joint management is it? My word, are there no statements too shameful, too misleading, too plain wrong, for Bladey S2 Blades to resort to??

For the record Nigel Clough is Manager and Head of Football. Chris Morgan is a minor member of the coaching staff with little or no involvement in, and certainly no authority, over first-team matters. It's not a partnership of equals, or any partnership at all. References to "they" taking over are ridiculous. Rubbish like this is calculated to exaggerate the involvement of a Bladey Blade and, necessarily, to derogate from the praise due to the Manager. Well, some of us can see over our S2 garden wall. Nigel Clough is the architect of our revival, it's nothing (or very little) to do with "Morgs". The revival would have occurred without "Morgs". It would not have done so without Nigel.

Nigel has two assistants, Gary Crosby and Andy Garner. Both outrank Morgan by a long way; neither get a single word of praise. Perhaps they haven't been around long enough or don't have tough sounding nicknames?

Morgan was the manager at Yeovil. The game was his responsibility. His apologists couldn't praise him enough after the Swindon game, yet when his limitations emerge so clearly thereafter: Portsmouth, Yeovil; suddenly it's not his responsibility. Have your Bladey cake and eat it, "Morgs". Take the victories, never mind the defeats. You can even have Nigel Clough's first match, we won it you see. The Coventry match? Well, you can't blame "Morgs" for the first half can you? He hadn't had long enough with the team. Second half: Ah well, he'd had half-time by then (a lot less time than pre-kick-off, but overlook that, he's a Blade) so that made all the difference. Yes "Morgs", no blame for a lamentable first-half, how could it be your fault? Great second-half, mate, you made all the difference.

What utter, risible, absurd Bladey Bollocks!

Some of you need to grow up, start giving proper appreciation to people who are making a difference and stop undermining such people by suggesting that it's all down to some Bladey fans' favourite. It's pathetic but I shouldn't be surprised - It's the Bladesfans' Way.
 
Resonably happy with what Clough has brought to the table thus far. However, it's early days yet and we're no where near safe!
 
A club legend, model professional and a really cracking bloke with genuine affection for SUFC. Described as a 'cunt'.

Shame on you.

It was said in a particular context for a particular purpose. Unless you appreciate that, you really ought not to comment. I do not think Morgan is a cunt - far from it; but neither is David Weir.
 
Morgan was a cult hero...but if we could have one of them as a player I would far rather have Clough!

Precisely, and also as manager! There is a huge gulf in class (for those who know a world beyond Shoreham Street) between the two.
 
A club legend, model professional and a really cracking bloke with genuine affection for SUFC. Described as a 'cunt'.

Shame on you.

Like to see you say that to Morg's face, he was put in a no win situation, yes he made a post match comment mistake in some peoples eyes, but he was used by KM to win fans over and get morale back up, which initially he did but it was the wrong time.
 
When "they" took over??? This is a Clough/Morgan joint management is it? My word, are there no statements too shameful, too misleading, too plain wrong, for Bladey S2 Blades to resort to??

For the record Nigel Clough is Manager and Head of Football. Chris Morgan is a minor member of the coaching staff

What utter, risible, absurd Bladey Bollocks!

Some of you need to grow up, start giving proper appreciation to people who are making a difference and stop undermining such people by suggesting that it's all down to some Bladey fans' favourite. It's pathetic but I shouldn't be surprised - It's the Bladesfans' Way.

your bile knows no bounds does it
Morgan is a minor member , not what Clough instills

We are a club , a team if he is given the tea ladys job hes still important , to the club
Clough involves everyone thats still there, till such time as they are not required they are essential

Why this need to have such negativity towards the club , is being morbidly depressing really a good starting point to go forward
Id cheer the groundsman cutting the grass just now , Cloughs leadership is responsible for the upturn , but theres no harm doing patting on the back all the staff as its a TEAM effort

is this the bit you have trouble with , is not being able to focus on a scapegoat hurting
 
Let's just be happy though that we have a manager it seems we can be proud of, and let's start chanting his name in some form!

Perhaps a variant on this for all you retro fans


We're only making plans for Nigel
Nigel's leading us to better days
We're only making plans for Nigel
He's one of us the Sheffield Blades
 
Like to see you say that to Morg's face, he was put in a no win situation, yes he made a post match comment mistake in some peoples eyes, but he was used by KM to win fans over and get morale back up, which initially he did but it was the wrong time.

There never was, and never will be, a right time. He isn't good enough. He is not, however, a cunt. I have never thought he was.

I have explained earlier why I used the phrase "useless cunt". It was months ago and now reappears completely out of context. It was done to make a point to a fellow poster who felt it necessary to describe David Weir as a "useless cunt". Sauce for the Goose; Sauce for the Gander. Did you take arms against that description? Do you now? Or are we all Bladey hypocrites? I'm not. I support Sheffield United, not Chris Morgan. Once the club stops paying him, he'll be off; I won't.

Oh, and don't give me the old "say that to his face" It really is rather childish.
 
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Oh, and a bit of advance notice for the future - Brian Deane will never make a manager either.

Deane did well by keeping the club with the smallest budget up in the Norwegian Premiership, playing quite attacking, entertaining football. I don't know if it means he'd do well if given a chance in England, but what do you base your prediction on?
 

Deane did well by keeping the club with the smallest budget up in the Norwegian Premiership, playing quite attacking, entertaining football. I don't know if it means he'd do well if given a chance in England, but what do you base your prediction on?

Instinct and experience. It usually serves me well.

As you rightly say, what he does in Norway is meaningless.
 

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