Clarification re. loans

[Linz]

A lot of people are complaining of the apparent contradiction between Weir's talk of loans last night and Paul Walker's ill-timed tweet with regards to the speculation linking Conor Coady to the club.

It's partly my fault, as you can only convey a gist when you've got 140 characters to play with - but roughly what Weir said is:

That hopefully, we would have a full squad of our own players and that is his priority. He wants a tight squad where all players are close to the first team so that they all have something to strive for. So ideally (a word he used a lot) we would not be using the loan market.

However, his previous experience was with coaching U21s and he knows the market and it would be remiss of him not to speak to people and utilise his contacts.

But the best case scenario is that we rely on our own players. Any loans have to be the right fit for a specific need. But ideally, we won't need to loan.

 

[SwissBlade]

Spoke with a Liverpool fan mate and he reckons the lad is decent.

People get bogged down with not wanting loanees. I'd agree if it's expensive and useless journeymen like Nosworthy.

But I think there is a place for young lads coming for experience. They give us an option that perhaps we don't have at the club, perhaps pace. It also buys us time to search for the right permanent player. But most of all it can provide competition for places.

Jon Cofie and Poleon were examples that just didnt work. Not convinced that it was entirely their fault. No point fitting wheels and expecting a car to run without an engine. In this case the wheels we fitted were square!

So as always I'm prepared to give young loanees a chance, but the emphasis must be on producing our own and also building our own close knit squad.

I also heard that the likes of kitson lived in the hotel his entire time. That can't happen. They must settle properly. As a contractor I've always settled better once I've got my own pad, I can never settle properly if I'm in a hotel. The same probably applies to footballers.

 

[stannyblade]

As I have said on another thread. Loans can work - look at the unclean when they went up (Marshall and then Antonio)
and again last season in Helan and Lita. We seem to be against them as most of ours have been very poor of late.

 

[bladesadviser]

I don't mind the six month or season long loans as it shows a bit of commitment, I don't like one month loans as it seems as soon as they are here they are gone again

 

[OllyBlade]

I don't mind the six month or season long loans as it shows a bit of commitment, I don't like one month loans as it seems as soon as they are here they are gone again

These can work in your favour though, 2 seasons ago when Matt Phillips came in we started picking up a bit of momentum and made sure we still picked up points whilst Evans was injured/not in form. I guess that's the point, loans should be to cover injuries or where we are very light.

6 months is okay, but what if Coady becomes a key part of the squad, plays brilliantly, and then Liverpool think 'well okay we'll send him to a championship club' in January? I suppose we would still have gained if he helps us get points...

 

[Wapping Blade]

Cofie has just signed for Baaaaarnsley according to the Twat on Twatter

Paul Walker ‏@Walkerpw

4m​

John Cofie signs for Barnsley on a one year deal with option of a further year #barnsleyfc

 

[Pinchy]

Cofie has just signed for Baaaaarnsley according to the Twat on Twatter

Paul Walker ‏@Walkerpw

4m​

John Cofie signs for Barnsley on a one year deal with option of a further year #barnsleyfc

That leaves a bitter taste.

 

[mattbianco1]

I'm getting confident. If Weir and Carsley are as good as they talk. It's top 3 this season

 

[BladeFisher]

I'm getting confident. If Weir and Carsley are as good as they talk. It's top 3 this season

We've been top 3 a few times.......and still not gone up

 

[SwissBlade]

I'm getting confident. If Weir and Carsley are as good as they talk. It's top 3 this season

Forget top 3 we've aimed for that too many times. Either aim for top slot or we may as well play for 7th

 

[United Aren't Back.]

I'm getting confident. If Weir and Carsley are as good as they talk. It's top 3 this season

Have i heard that before? oh yes..11 12 then 12 13.
Great.
Thanks for the optimism and wish i could share in it.

 

[mattbianco1]

Have i heard that before? oh yes..11 12 then 12 13.
Great.
Thanks for the optimism and wish i could share in it.

Where did we finish in 11/12 ?

 

[United Aren't Back.]

i know, it occurred to me just after i posted. Just to mention that finishing 3rd means playoff failure for us though.

 

[mattbianco1]

i know, it occurred to me just after i posted. Just to mention that finishing 3rd means playoff failure for us though.

I know. Any other year and we would've had 2nd if not 1st with that points haul

 

[United Aren't Back.]

i am still totally dismayed at wilsons cruel luck that season it defied all logic and was totally sickening. andf i feel that by christmas we will be wishing wilson was here now.

 

[Pinchy]

i am still totally dismayed at wilsons cruel luck that season it defied all logic and was totally sickening. andf i feel that by christmas we will be wishing wilson was here now.

I was a Wilson fan but he lost it towards the end. I think we'll be delighted at Christmas.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

true pinchy he lost it at start of last season, i think he tried the hudds town approach of t previous year, ie bore opponents to death yet get promoted. Dud, failure and shows what a crap manager danny is deep down.

 

[Robbie]

These can work in your favour though, 2 seasons ago when Matt Phillips came in we started picking up a bit of momentum and made sure we still picked up points whilst Evans was injured/not in form.

While there is no doubt Phillips did well while he was there, we did better once he left.
We only won 2 in 7 while he was in the team.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

Clarification?

I thought this would have said:

Rumour started here

Rumour spreads across the internet

Rumour appears in the press

Rumour appears on the BBC site, so therefore must be true!



Known as the Theo Principle!