Outgoing? Chris Wilder

[HOT CURRIE 10]

This happens up and down the football world. The Prince didn't comment on the rumours that Wilder was being lined up to replace Hecky. Spurs didn't comment on Ange going. Boro didn't comment about Carrick going. It might be shit but it's how every club operates

If he's staying then why comment on it? You're only going raise suspicion whenever another rumour comes out and you don't comment on it.

If he's going they likely want to talk to him face to face, agree a severance package and have a new boss lined up.

Some of em on here,like spoilt kids demanding this,demanding that. The owners are business people with lots at stake,they will get their ducks in a row before announcing anything. It’s like the school gate on here and radio Sheffield.

 

[Nick Jansky]

I can't think of anyone significantly better

Which certainly doesn’t mean that there aren’t loads of managers who are significantly better. Unless you’re telling us you are knowledgeable on the subject and possess some credibility?

 

[Carlton Blade]

When talking about the "random ones" I am sure he mentioned Cannon was also flagged by data.

United tried to sign Cannon in August 2024

 

[Roygbiv]

There's an interview with Wilder somewhere saying he put a presentation to the board about signing Cannon. If you listen to his interview post signing on the official YouTube channel, he also says Cannon was someone he and the board both agreed on.

 

[Blade56]

Misunderstanding about AI is making us look like Luddite's stood at the owners door with pick axe handles. Get a book or two, understand it and how it will be used to augment the scouting process, speed it up, crunch data. Don’t expect our starting 11 to look like this……

 

[Gin&Juice]

Misunderstanding about AI is making us look like Luddite's stood at the owners door with pick axe handles. Get a book or two, understand it and how it will be used to augment the scouting process, speed it up, crunch data. Don’t expect our starting 11 to look like this……

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Gary Sinclair, August 2025:

 

[Pandev]

Misunderstanding about AI is making us look like Luddite's stood at the owners door with pick axe handles. Get a book or two, understand it and how it will be used to augment the scouting process, speed it up, crunch data. Don’t expect our starting 11 to look like this……

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Really like that kit

 

[Blademan89]

There's an interview with Wilder somewhere saying he put a presentation to the board about signing Cannon. If you listen to his interview post signing on the official YouTube channel, he also says Cannon was someone he and the board both agreed on.

There's also an interview with Bettis where he says that in January Wilder didn't specify Cannon nor striker to the board.

He said that Wilder wanted him in summer and so they asked if he still wanted him as a bonus signing (was to show they was serious and backing him).

 

[BigBed]

I was responding to someone saying that talk of Wilder being replaced being his back is unprofessional and unfair. I was merely pointing out that it was no different to when Wilder held talks with the club to return whilst Hecky was still manager. The two faced back stabbingness is the way of football and Wilder was sleezy doing this behind "My mate Paul's" back.

How do you know this is "behind his back"!??

 

[paidsy]

How do you know this is "behind his back"!??

Seems a bit of an irrelevant point, aren't all managers replaced behind their back? Very few are part of the recruiting process for the new man

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

How do you know this is "behind his back"!??

I don't and I never said I did know this. It might be easier to go back and read everything to save confusion or to prevent misinterpretation.

 

[Barmyblade]

There's also an interview with Bettis where he says that in January Wilder didn't specify Cannon nor striker to the board.

He said that Wilder wanted him in summer and so they asked if he still wanted him as a bonus signing (was to show they was serious and backing him).

Bettis - “Chris [Wilder] highlighted four positions he wanted to strengthen, and those were filled by Ben Brereton Diaz, Hamza Choudhury, Harry Clarke, and Rob Holding. Then there was a fifth in Tom Cannon, who wasn’t a priority initially but was someone Chris wanted since the summer.”

Wilder - “Cannon is someone we’ve tracked for a while and is a signing which ticked all the boxes with everyone involved in the process. It's a super signing for us. Somebody we have tracked for a long time and known about for a long time. He's a young hungry player, position specific, we needed someone who could play on the shoulder and stretch the game, which he does. As soon as we talked about our enthusiasm to get this done, speaking to the boy, he knows what we're all about, He knows the club are ambitious and I thank the board and the co-chairmen for the backing and support, not just with this signing, but the whole process of what we've been going through and how they've wanted to support me during the window. We're all on the same page with this signing. Great age, we believe he'll play a big part and hopefully a successful second part of this season and beyond as well. He can hopefully realise all his ambitions here with us and for me it is a really good signing."

 

[ListerBlade]

Bettis - “Chris [Wilder] highlighted four positions he wanted to strengthen, and those were filled by Ben Brereton Diaz, Hamza Choudhury, Harry Clarke, and Rob Holding. Then there was a fifth in Tom Cannon, who wasn’t a priority initially but was someone Chris wanted since the summer.”

Wilder - “Cannon is someone we’ve tracked for a while and is a signing which ticked all the boxes with everyone involved in the process. It's a super signing for us. Somebody we have tracked for a long time and known about for a long time. He's a young hungry player, position specific, we needed someone who could play on the shoulder and stretch the game, which he does. As soon as we talked about our enthusiasm to get this done, speaking to the boy, he knows what we're all about, He knows the club are ambitious and I thank the board and the co-chairmen for the backing and support, not just with this signing, but the whole process of what we've been going through and how they've wanted to support me during the window. We're all on the same page with this signing. Great age, we believe he'll play a big part and hopefully a successful second part of this season and beyond as well. He can hopefully realise all his ambitions here with us and for me it is a really good signing."

The comments on Cannon have not aged well

 

[Aston max]

Its pretty obvious that the AI use is being blown out of all proportion
Expect better of you ,makes us look like cloth cap wearing ferret walking simpletons

Hey I've got pigeons and whippet as well

 

[Aston max]

Misunderstanding about AI is making us look like Luddite's stood at the owners door with pick axe handles. Get a book or two, understand it and how it will be used to augment the scouting process, speed it up, crunch data. Don’t expect our starting 11 to look like this……

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See you've started the robot overthrow with one sorting stones

 

[UTB Blade]

I thought AI was short for Al as in Alan Knill.

What worries me is, if Al Knill goes, who'll be my role model now that my role model's gone?

 

[Champagneblade]

Bettis - “Chris [Wilder] highlighted four positions he wanted to strengthen, and those were filled by Ben Brereton Diaz, Hamza Choudhury, Harry Clarke, and Rob Holding. Then there was a fifth in Tom Cannon, who wasn’t a priority initially but was someone Chris wanted since the summer.”

Wilder - “Cannon is someone we’ve tracked for a while and is a signing which ticked all the boxes with everyone involved in the process. It's a super signing for us. Somebody we have tracked for a long time and known about for a long time. He's a young hungry player, position specific, we needed someone who could play on the shoulder and stretch the game, which he does. As soon as we talked about our enthusiasm to get this done, speaking to the boy, he knows what we're all about, He knows the club are ambitious and I thank the board and the co-chairmen for the backing and support, not just with this signing, but the whole process of what we've been going through and how they've wanted to support me during the window. We're all on the same page with this signing. Great age, we believe he'll play a big part and hopefully a successful second part of this season and beyond as well. He can hopefully realise all his ambitions here with us and for me it is a really good signing."

I pointed this out to Danny on twitter. He mentioned identified by the AI model but independent of this, Wilder was interested well before the takeover.

In this case, while this hasn’t worked out so far, isn’t this ideal? I.e. Manager keen and AI backs it up?

 

[Keen Blade]

The main question that Carrick is the answer to is “who is the latest Fergie old boy to be a failure at football management”. Van Nistelroy is another answer, but there are dozens of them. The reason for this is that whilst extraordinarily successful in its time, Fergie was a complete one off and that style of management, particularly with one person having so much control over so many aspects of a club, doesn’t transfer into the modern game, which has moved on.

Which is exactly what's wrong not only with Wilder but also the structure of his job and lack of local accountability because with the best will in the world , Bettis cannot control him , despite being bumped up to the board.
Wilder & Bettis do not have a proper professional relationship , they're a pair of old buddies.

 

[Keen Blade]

Never mind the ‘Vern has seen them ‘ bit , I’m more ITK than you on this as an old pal spent the evening with them and tells me they are loving every minute of it .

Tomorrow , both have booked an early morning call to go for a dip in the sea to bring back memories of previous vacations on the Gulf Coast in Florida .

Skegness ... It's so bracing !

 

[UTB Blade]

The fact that the Board has said nothing is an ABSOLUTE DISGRACE. I'm done with them. Better off watching non-league next season. Less of the pantomime.

Chris the Blade getting ready to write this post:

 

[Blade56]

See you've started the robot overthrow with one sorting stones

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Good film

 

[gaffablade]

The fact that the Board has said nothing is an ABSOLUTE DISGRACE. I'm done with them. Better off watching non-league next season. Less of the pantomime.

Chris are you a grown man?

 

[NerdyBlade]

The fact that the Board has said nothing is an ABSOLUTE DISGRACE. I'm done with them. Better off watching non-league next season. Less of the pantomime.

Not enough swearing to be a proper flounce, 6/10

 

[Chris the Blade]

Chris are you a grown man?

So you think their behaviour is acceptable? Say nothing to the fan base. Great.

 

[Chris the Blade]

Not enough swearing to be a proper flounce, 6/10

Swearing is for the uneducated.

 

[NerdyBlade]

Swearing is for the uneducated.

And randomly capitalising THE OCCASIONAL WORD in your spiel about not BEING TOLD anything is genius level?

 

[AaronSufc]

This needs sorting, either a statement out backing him or get rid and get the new manager in place.. we dont want to get behind on pre season etc by dragging on this decision.

 

[S64 Blade]

So you think their behaviour is acceptable? Say nothing to the fan base. Great.

Are they obliged to comment on every bit of speculation? Which other clubs boards do this?

I understand that we are all keen to know, but it doesn’t work like that and never has.

 

[Chris the Blade]

And randomly capitalising THE OCCASIONAL WORD in your spiel about not BEING TOLD anything is genius level?

Yep

 

[Youngand70]

Bettis - “Chris [Wilder] highlighted four positions he wanted to strengthen, and those were filled by Ben Brereton Diaz, Hamza Choudhury, Harry Clarke, and Rob Holding. Then there was a fifth in Tom Cannon, who wasn’t a priority initially but was someone Chris wanted since the summer.”

Wilder - “Cannon is someone we’ve tracked for a while and is a signing which ticked all the boxes with everyone involved in the process. It's a super signing for us. Somebody we have tracked for a long time and known about for a long time. He's a young hungry player, position specific, we needed someone who could play on the shoulder and stretch the game, which he does. As soon as we talked about our enthusiasm to get this done, speaking to the boy, he knows what we're all about, He knows the club are ambitious and I thank the board and the co-chairmen for the backing and support, not just with this signing, but the whole process of what we've been going through and how they've wanted to support me during the window. We're all on the same page with this signing. Great age, we believe he'll play a big part and hopefully a successful second part of this season and beyond as well. He can hopefully realise all his ambitions here with us and for me it is a really good signing."

If Cannon plays on the shoulder he should stick to being a parrot and we should sign Long John Silver as a striking partner. Out of the other four only Choudrey was worth bothering with and made any valuable contribution. BBD was poor, Clarke another sick note and Holding, through no fault of his own spent most of his time bench warming because we've got Super Jack Robinson.