CONFIRMED Chris Wilder 3.0 - Returns for the third spell.

[Cheeky Blade]

It was, in my humble opinion, the completely wrong thing to sack him. I guess credit should go to the board for admitting they got it wrong. However this is not the side he left behind. We don't have the physical profile we had with Moore, anel and Souza anymore.

Soumare, Matos, McGuiness, Tanganga offer that.

 

[Bladesman]

I know there will be strong opinions about a Wilder reappointment It is probably the quickest fix and that will give us a very outside chance of playoffs still (if only mathematically) However the reasoning behind him leaving will still be there. I want to know what changed between them giving him a new contract in January and deciding to go in a different direction in the summer. What was their long term plan. What will it be now because there is one thing certain if Wilder comes back he will be in a stronger position than before. Is that a good thing?

I think it was a narrow split decision and people say he left amicably. Despite the waffle from his mates online.

 

[54yrblade]

I know there will be strong opinions about a Wilder reappointment It is probably the quickest fix and that will give us a very outside chance of playoffs still (if only mathematically) However the reasoning behind him leaving will still be there. I want to know what changed between them giving him a new contract in January and deciding to go in a different direction in the summer. What was their long term plan. What will it be now because there is one thing certain if Wilder comes back he will be in a stronger position than before. Is that a good thing?

All it will indicate is desperation on the part of the board and giving in to the pathetic hero worship of a needy fan base.

 

[A Storm of Blades]

In fairness, it’s us. We can either have a man that oversees a perfectly crafted disaster or we can have Chris Wilder. Those are the only options for the rest of time.

 

[YES Blade]

First questions for the owners at the press conference…

Why was Wilder sacked?
What has now changed?
Why do you think you can now work together?

 

[Blade82]

Wilder is my favourite ever Blades manager by a million miles.

But it doesn't entitle him to a job for life.

His time has been and gone.

He’s not entitled to this job but he deserved another crack at it this season. He’s going to get it after all thankfully. Let’s hope everyone can get behind him - the season starts Saturday

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Soumare, Matos, McGuiness, Tanganga offer that.

Matos is tiny?!

No big man up top.

McGuiness didn't impress me and Soumare is more of a smaller berge type player imo.

 

[Bladesman101]

I’m extremely happy about this mornings events. Just pretend he never got sacked. He’s got the underdog factor of being bottom. That’ll suit him

 

[Berkshire Blade]

First questions for the owners at the press conference…

Why was Wilder sacked?
What has now changed?
Why do you think you can now work together?

As if they are going to show up now!!

 

[A Storm of Blades]

Look - in all seriousness, there could be a role for Wilder at the club long term. If he comes in to steady the ship then there’s a sensible transition in place to move him into another role then I can get on board.

 

[shrubbery]

I’m completely lost for words if Wilder comes back, the owners clearly haven’t got a clue.

Who sacks a manager then brings him back within a few months? Why even sack him in the first place?

Absolutely crazy situation! You think you’ve seen everything in football then United do this.

Agree that they will make themselves look like twats but we all know that Selles needs sacking and most can’t see a better alternative at this present time than Wilder so I appreciate that they are prepared to make themselves look like twats rather than bring in another disaster zone of an appointment.

 

[YES Blade]

As if they are going to show up now!!

You’d like to think they would front up for this! They’ve made themselves look like a set of incompetent fools.

They need some good PR right now.

 

[Slim Man]

It's such a bizarre 4 months. I understood the desire to change, to progress, they just don't seem to have gone about it with any sort of plan?

I am partly joking here but I think the only 5 year plan that I can see working is:
Wilder back in to sort this season's mess out.
Basham to go and work as assistant manager to a "modern day manager"
Director of football appointed with a clear plan on driving academy and recruitment strategy for a long term plan
Wilder takes over as dof in a few years
Basham brings both modern philosophies and bladey blameless as manager
Europe
Cup silverware
Playing beautiful attacking football
Other fans still writing we are a big physical team

Then I wake up

I can genuinely see him bringing who he views as his successor with him and AK. Lester's gone now so there's room.

Bash, Coutts (bit mental though), Stevens

Knowing us it'll just be Alan Knill.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

I’m completely lost for words if Wilder comes back, the owners clearly haven’t got a clue.

Who sacks a manager then brings him back within a few months? Why even sack him in the first place?

Absolutely crazy situation! You think you’ve seen everything in football then United do this.

I had these feels when they sacked him after giving him a new contract and we got 92 points tbh.

Less shocked by this walk back than that.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

You’d like to think they would front up for this! They’ve made themselves look like a set of incompetent fools.

They need some good PR right now.

I wish they would.


But it's clear that's not how they work unfortunately

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Look - in all seriousness, there could be a role for Wilder at the club long term. If he comes in to steady the ship then there’s a sensible transition in place to move him into another role then I can get on board.

This.

 

[Need4speed]

I think it was a narrow split decision and people say he left amicably. Despite the waffle from his mates online.

Yep I think it was amicable but that would mean that there was something on both sides that they relised it wouldn't work. What was that?

 

[PrestwichBlade]

It was, in my humble opinion, the completely wrong thing to sack him. I guess credit should go to the board for admitting they got it wrong. However this is not the side he left behind. We don't have the physical profile we had with Moore, anel and Souza anymore.

Are you suggesting Wilder might not have the tactical know-how to play a different way? He's going to have to work with what he's got...

 

[mancunianblade]

Here we go get the comfort blanket back out the cupboard

Let’s grind it out get results fall short before or after promotion sack him bring someone in then sack them then get the comfort blanket back out rinse and repeat.

Not saying we should have given Selles time because he was a bad appointment since day one and everyone knew it but come on we cannot keep dialling 0114 whenever things don’t work out in the big bad world.

 

[YES Blade]

Agree that they will make themselves look like twats but we all know that Selles needs sacking and most can’t see a better alternative at this present time than Wilder so I appreciate that they are prepared to make themselves look like twats rather than bring in another disaster zone of an appointment.

That’s the question, what process have they followed?

It appeared that they were backing Selles up until Friday night. That shocking result has caused panic and in desperate they’ve begged Wilder to come back.

That’s how it appears from the outside looking in.

 

[Cheeky Blade]

Matos is tiny?!

No big man up top.

McGuiness didn't impress me and Soumare is more of a smaller berge type player imo.

Monty wasn’t the biggest but had physical presence, think Matos similar…main thing I noticed with McGuiness was physical presence…probably right re: Soumare but seems to have a tackle in him unlike Berge.

 

[JimW1889]

I’m completely lost for words if Wilder comes back, the owners clearly haven’t got a clue.

Who sacks a manager then brings him back within a few months? Why even sack him in the first place?

Absolutely crazy situation! You think you’ve seen everything in football then United do this.

I think it shows some level of maturity to at least admit they’re wrong. There are others, whether they’d come I don’t know, but wilder is about as safe of a bet as we can get that we won’t go down.

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

I can only imagine how crestfallen some must be

 

[bertieblade]

If he does come back it is essential that he has a DOF, possibly Mowbray and a team of young coaches who will take over from Wilder as we need structure and continuity.

 

[pedro]

I think the owners have admitted they made a big mistake in letting Chris go and its brave of them to say ok we got it wrong lets go back to the beginning and have another go because we all know that Chris will get a tune out of our players

 

[Pilley-Blade]

Look - in all seriousness, there could be a role for Wilder at the club long term. If he comes in to steady the ship then there’s a sensible transition in place to move him into another role then I can get on board.

I have pretty much said this on another thread, I think this is the best way to plan forward and get out of this strange spectrumised situation we find ourselves in.

 

[YES Blade]

I had these feels when they sacked him after giving him a new contract and we got 92 points tbh.

Less shocked by this walk back than that.

That’s the point, there were obviously some differences in opinion which lead to Wilder leaving. What has changed? How is it going to work now?

Those issues are going to still be present, so it’s probable we’ll be searching for another new manager in the not so distant future.

I honestly hope I’m wrong.

 

[finlaytheblade]

Looks like Ruben's been sacked and Chris by all rumours seems to be back in charge.

Let me start this by saying I'm happy he's back in the immediate term and we look fucking hopeless and desperately need to get someone in charge who in knows what they're doing.

The Chris Wilder sticking plaster takes its third dawn.

Quite what the owners expected sacking him to try their own thing in the summer with no football people in between them absolutely beats me. He's a head coach. And he was tasked with changing our whole style and philosophy with 2 coaches and that's it.

Was he ever worthy of the United job? Probably not. Was he ever going to be given a fair crack of the whip by half the fanbase? Definitely not. So he was off on a bad footing anyway, paired with the above it was always doomed to fail.

The rhetoric around his sacking in the week or so leading up to it was that the board was 'split' - there's 7 board members making decisions. They need to entrust one man to make these calls, and I don't mean a manager. Football is too vast now, the manager has enough to focus on with just the team, this is why teams like Brighton, Bournemouth, actual progressive teams can lose a manager and carry on as before. Because there is structure around and above them allowing them to thrive. Unfortunately for Selles he never had that (whether he was up to the job or not).

The issue comes if it starts to go pear shaped with Chris, will they ever dare to sack him again?

I'm excited about him coming back IF we are putting together a football knowledgable team together at board level and below. It can't just be the 7 man board, Steve Bettis and Chris Wilder. Or we are destined to be only ever managed by people who 'know the club' and that gives you a very limited pool of people and most often none of them are exciting.

We're in some sort of Peterborough cinematic universe at the minute, where they can't get away from Darren Ferguson.

We can't keep going back to Chris Wilder. It just shows an ineptitude at board level from both this and the previous board in developing us as a football club to bring us in line with the 21st century. That needs to change, and I hope Chris is involved in making that happen. It's important there's some United DNA in making these decisions it seems.

Good luck Chris; you can't do any fucking worse!

Excellent post slim man! If the club follow something similar to what you posted ! The future is bright bring it on!!!

 

[Constantly Optimistic...]

Looks like Ruben's been sacked and Chris by all rumours seems to be back in charge.

Let me start this by saying I'm happy he's back in the immediate term and we look fucking hopeless and desperately need to get someone in charge who in knows what they're doing.

The Chris Wilder sticking plaster takes its third dawn.

Quite what the owners expected sacking him to try their own thing in the summer with no football people in between them absolutely beats me. He's a head coach. And he was tasked with changing our whole style and philosophy with 2 coaches and that's it.

Was he ever worthy of the United job? Probably not. Was he ever going to be given a fair crack of the whip by half the fanbase? Definitely not. So he was off on a bad footing anyway, paired with the above it was always doomed to fail.

The rhetoric around his sacking in the week or so leading up to it was that the board was 'split' - there's 7 board members making decisions. They need to entrust one man to make these calls, and I don't mean a manager. Football is too vast now, the manager has enough to focus on with just the team, this is why teams like Brighton, Bournemouth, actual progressive teams can lose a manager and carry on as before. Because there is structure around and above them allowing them to thrive. Unfortunately for Selles he never had that (whether he was up to the job or not).

The issue comes if it starts to go pear shaped with Chris, will they ever dare to sack him again?

I'm excited about him coming back IF we are putting together a football knowledgable team together at board level and below. It can't just be the 7 man board, Steve Bettis and Chris Wilder. Or we are destined to be only ever managed by people who 'know the club' and that gives you a very limited pool of people and most often none of them are exciting.

We're in some sort of Peterborough cinematic universe at the minute, where they can't get away from Darren Ferguson.

We can't keep going back to Chris Wilder. It just shows an ineptitude at board level from both this and the previous board in developing us as a football club to bring us in line with the 21st century. That needs to change, and I hope Chris is involved in making that happen. It's important there's some United DNA in making these decisions it seems.

Good luck Chris; you can't do any fucking worse!

Excellent, my sentiments exactly.

 

[Need4speed]

Are you suggesting Wilder might not have the tactical know-how to play a different way? He's going to have to work with what he's got...

Most of us on here could get this squad to play in a different way - I am not saying it would work but Selles had his chance to change on Friday and he didn't