CONFIRMED Chris Wilder 3.0 - Returns for the third spell.

[luffenhamblade]

And if I didn't

Just checking as it wasn’t quite clear in post

 

[kop blade]

yes tufty kop hero is back im so happy i wont moan at owners like victor meldrew no more because theyve got our gaffer tufty back,yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee we blades will now win games ,,chow..we hammer teams now

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

Tell you what I can give you a much longer list.

Lee Evans
Ryan Leonard
Ricky Holmes
Ben Henegen
Nathan Thomas
Cameron Carter Vickers
Chris Hussey
Conor Washington
Kean Bryan
Scott Hogan
Ben Woodburn
Lee Evans
Marvin Johnson
Danny Lafferty
Callum Robinson
Oli Burke
Jack Rodwell
Ravel Morison
Luke Freeman
Michael Verrips
Pana Retsos
Muhamed Besic
Ricardo Zikovic
Rhian Brewster
Max Lowe
Ismail Coulibaly
Tom Cannon
Jamie Shackleton
Brereton-Diaz (V2)
Harry Clarke

And I’ve given him a massive pass on some very average footballers like Ramsdale, Mousset & McBurnie.

Complete myth that he can spot a player.

I think you're revealing how little you understand about football. A lot of those signings played very important roles in promotions etc. You could go through Alex Ferguson's signings and pick out plenty of duds. Could he not spot a player? You just hate Wilder and your opinions are warped by that.

 

[Nick Jansky]

A lot of those signings played very important roles in promotions etc.

Really? Maybe list the ones that did?

 

[Houston_Blade]

Really? Maybe list the ones that did?

Out of that list I reckon Hogan (scored an important goal), Lafferty (gave some necessary cover) and Carter-Vickers (actually played games) were the ones who contributed, maybe Besic at a push for a few games. The rest, we wouldn’t have even noticed if they’d never been at the club.

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

Really? Maybe list the ones that did?

Why not.

Lafferty. No idea why he would be on this list. Starting left back when we won league with 100 points. Clearly a good signing

Max Lowe similar to above. Won promotion with us as our starting left back and a promotion with Forest. Decent player and decent signing

Scott Hogan played when Sharp was injured back end of the promotion season and contributed to getting us up. Scored against Ipswich

Washington contributed early part of the promotion season when we were short on numbers. Never let us down

Carter-Vickers played his part in a very goof first half of the season and was decent enough

Besic very useful player. Decent signing as back up

Freeman was a decent player just couldn't get in the team due to how good Fleck, Norwood and Lundstram were

Leonard absolutely fine as a player. Had a good career in championship which is where we were when we signed him. 2 promotions in 3 seasons mean more players than normal get left behind

Quite a few short term loans that were never for the long term or as with Leonard we went up quicker than expected and they got left behind.

Not a bad hit rate at all I'd say.

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

Out of that list I reckon Hogan (scored an important goal), Lafferty (gave some necessary cover) and Carter-Vickers (actually played games) were the ones who contributed, maybe Besic at a push for a few games. The rest, we wouldn’t have even noticed if they’d never been at the club.

Lafferty was our starting left back when we won league 1 a bit more than cover. Max Lowe was our starting left back when we last won promotion to the Premier League.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Lafferty was our starting left back when we won league 1 a bit more than cover. Max Lowe was our starting left back when we last won promotion to the Premier League.

Sorry I missed Max Lowe, not the best but had a lovely smile so he’s hit from me on that basis.

 

[Nick Jansky]

Why not.

Lafferty. No idea why he would be on this list. Starting left back when we won league with 100 points. Clearly a good signing

Max Lowe similar to above. Won promotion with us as our starting left back and a promotion with Forest. Decent player and decent signing

Scott Hogan played when Sharp was injured back end of the promotion season and contributed to getting us up. Scored against Ipswich

Washington contributed early part of the promotion season when we were short on numbers. Never let us down

Carter-Vickers played his part in a very goof first half of the season and was decent enough

Besic very useful player. Decent signing as back up

Freeman was a decent player just couldn't get in the team due to how good Fleck, Norwood and Lundstram were

Leonard absolutely fine as a player. Had a good career in championship which is where we were when we signed him. 2 promotions in 3 seasons mean more players than normal get left behind

Quite a few short term loans that were never for the long term or as with Leonard we went up quicker than expected and they got left behind.

Not a bad hit rate at all I'd say.

Once you get past the first five you are really reaching, but ok. And it’s a long list. It’s also very hypocritical of you using it to tell someone that they are demonstrating a lack of football knowledge when in the past you have squealed about other posters being, in your view, disrespectful. But there you go..,

 

[Paulus]

Really? Maybe list the ones that did?

Very clever of you to come up with a nice long list but it proves nothing. As a club we’ve never had any real money in the boardroom and that has had some big consequences. 1. We’ve had to sell a lot of players we’d rather not have sold 2. We’ve taken more than our fare share of punts on players who have shown ability but who’ve had a less than ideal former life in football either through injury history or temperament because they’re cheap. It’s hardly surprising that some of these haven’t come off. Some have come off though eg Didsy, essentially a similar sort of signing to a number on your list

 

[Ned the Donkey]

Why not.

Lafferty. No idea why he would be on this list. Starting left back when we won league with 100 points. Clearly a good signing

Max Lowe similar to above. Won promotion with us as our starting left back and a promotion with Forest. Decent player and decent signing

Scott Hogan played when Sharp was injured back end of the promotion season and contributed to getting us up. Scored against Ipswich

Washington contributed early part of the promotion season when we were short on numbers. Never let us down

Carter-Vickers played his part in a very goof first half of the season and was decent enough

Besic very useful player. Decent signing as back up

Freeman was a decent player just couldn't get in the team due to how good Fleck, Norwood and Lundstram were

Leonard absolutely fine as a player. Had a good career in championship which is where we were when we signed him. 2 promotions in 3 seasons mean more players than normal get left behind

Quite a few short term loans that were never for the long term or as with Leonard we went up quicker than expected and they got left behind.

Not a bad hit rate at all I'd say.

100%. I often wonder if Ben Woodburn's greatest contribution to the history of football (so far) is pressurising Mark Duffy into playing the best football of his career. We never saw hide nor hair of the lad but perhaps he was worth millions

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

Once you get past the first five you are really reaching, but ok. And it’s a long list. It’s also very hypocritical of you using it to tell someone that they are demonstrating a lack of football knowledge when in the past you have squealed about other posters being, in your view, disrespectful. But there you go..,

I dont think its reaching no. You can make good arguments for a lot that they contributed. We went up twice in 3 years as well. Always means signings are left behind.

Who have I had a go at for being disrespectful? I try to reply to your posts in good faith but they are always just snarky digs.

I think making out those signings are all rubbish doesn't take into account needing players to come in and do a job for a short spell. Hence my comment about lack of football knowledge.

 

[Nick Jansky]

I dont think its reaching no. You can make good arguments for a lot that they contributed. We went up twice in 3 years as well. Always means signings are left behind.

Who have I had a go at for being disrespectful? I try to reply to your posts in good faith but they are always just snarky digs.

I think making out those signings are all rubbish doesn't take into account needing players to come in and do a job for a short spell. Hence my comment about lack of football knowledge.

You’re one of the vast majority on here (including me, despite having coaching badges, although probably not as many as Fallowfield ) who has never particularly demonstrated much in the way of any great football knowledge. So I find calling other posters out for that to be a little lacking in self awareness, that’s all.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Why not.

Lafferty. No idea why he would be on this list. Starting left back when we won league with 100 points. Clearly a good signing

Max Lowe similar to above. Won promotion with us as our starting left back and a promotion with Forest. Decent player and decent signing

Scott Hogan played when Sharp was injured back end of the promotion season and contributed to getting us up. Scored against Ipswich

Washington contributed early part of the promotion season when we were short on numbers. Never let us down

Carter-Vickers played his part in a very goof first half of the season and was decent enough

Besic very useful player. Decent signing as back up

Freeman was a decent player just couldn't get in the team due to how good Fleck, Norwood and Lundstram were

Leonard absolutely fine as a player. Had a good career in championship which is where we were when we signed him. 2 promotions in 3 seasons mean more players than normal get left behind

Quite a few short term loans that were never for the long term or as with Leonard we went up quicker than expected and they got left behind.

Not a bad hit rate at all I'd say.

United doubled their money on Leonard and Lee Evans. Then they used the money to get Norwood and others. Great business

 

[nopigfansintown]

I dont think its reaching no. You can make good arguments for a lot that they contributed. We went up twice in 3 years as well. Always means signings are left behind.

Who have I had a go at for being disrespectful? I try to reply to your posts in good faith but they are always just snarky digs.

I think making out those signings are all rubbish doesn't take into account needing players to come in and do a job for a short spell. Hence my comment about lack of football knowledge.

You'll always need squad fillers. The only players we signed for decent money for the level we signed them that that we lost value on without getting good service are Carruthers and Brewster. You can go round the houses with Mcburnie if you really want too. Cannon was signed under COH and the juries still out anyway. If we are talking wages too you are left with only Carruthers. That's one player in how many years?

Last year's Wilder perms (pre COH influence) :

Cooper
Moore
Burrows
McCallum
Shackleton
O'Hare

6.5 million fees.

Moore subsequently sold for 2 million.

Loans:

JRS
Souttar

 

[SandyMcBlade]

I hope to God we don't loose our next game,
it will be pandemonium on here.

GOOD LUCK Mr Wilder.....

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

You’re one of the vast majority on here (including me, despite having coaching badges, although probably not as many as Fallowfield ) who has never particularly demonstrated much in the way of any great football knowledge. So I find calling other posters out for that to be a little lacking in self awareness, that’s all.

Ah ok. Well it was based on the post and I've shown my workings. Don't think I've ever really seen you give an opinion on football tbh other than to slag our fans off for somehow holding us back with their attitudes.

 

[Nick Jansky]

Ah ok. Well it was based on the post and I've shown my workings. Don't think I've ever really seen you give an opinion on football tbh other than to slag our fans off for somehow holding us back with their attitudes.

Maybe you haven’t, but you’ve only been here since June. I’m sure I will have given a few opinions in the 16 years I’ve been around these parts.

 

[SittingontheBall]

Maybe you haven’t, but you’ve only been here since June. I’m sure I will have given a few opinions in the 16 years I’ve been around these parts.

Care to comment on this opinion you gave a couple of months back

 

[wavy-blade]

 

[AWetFlannel]

Really? Maybe list the ones that did?

Deary me

 

[AWetFlannel]

United doubled their money on Leonard and Lee Evans. Then they used the money to get Norwood and others. Great business

I think those being touted as bad signings is extremely embarrassing, but it's nowt compared to Lafferty being on the list. Did these people watch us that season?

 

[KMC-1889]

United doubled their money on Leonard and Lee Evans. Then they used the money to get Norwood and others. Great business

We bought Evans for £750k before he was sold for an ‘undisclosed’ fee to a Wigan team that had no money.

Leonard was a similar fee (reports of around £700k) before once again leaving for an ‘undisclosed’ fee to Millwall, that well known big spender.

Worth noting that both of these went on loan the season we bought Norwood so in no way contributed to the £2m fee we paid Oli.

Are we just making stuff up now?

 

[nopigfansintown]

We bought Evans for £750k before he was sold for an ‘undisclosed’ fee to a Wigan team that had no money.

Leonard was a similar fee (reports of around £700k) before once again leaving for an ‘undisclosed’ fee to Millwall, that well known big spender.

Worth noting that both of these went on loan the season we bought Norwood so in no way contributed to the £2m fee we paid Oli.

Are we just making stuff up now?

Evans was bought for 500k and sold for 1.1 million. Leonard was signed for £750,000 and sold for 1.4 million. Norwood was bought for 1.2 million.

It seems you are.

 

[KMC-1889]

Evans was bought for 500k and sold for 1.1 million. Leonard was signed for £750,000 and sold for 1.4 million. Norwood was bought for 1.2 million.

It seems you are.

I’d love to see where you got those numbers from, cause they’re completely different to what’s reported in the press as well as the clubs own announcements.

 

[Santos]

We bought Evans for £750k before he was sold for an ‘undisclosed’ fee to a Wigan team that had no money.

Leonard was a similar fee (reports of around £700k) before once again leaving for an ‘undisclosed’ fee to Millwall, that well known big spender.

Worth noting that both of these went on loan the season we bought Norwood so in no way contributed to the £2m fee we paid Oli.

Are we just making stuff up now?

Not really. Evans signed to Wigan in August on loan and signed on a perm on January 1 2019. Much in the same way Norwood signed for us on loan a few days and then signed on a perm on (i presume) 1 January 1 2019. In reality, in August, both deals for permanents.

I cannot recall the situation re Leonard but if i had to guess, i'd say it was the same.

For what it's worth - Evans and Leonard were not bad signings, in the way in which I dunno, say Oli Burke or Jason Shackleton clearly were / are.

 

[nopigfansintown]

I’d love to see where you got those numbers from, cause they’re completely different to what’s reported in the press as well as the clubs own announcements.

The Norwood and Egan fees (3.5 million) were revealed by Wilder in the same interview. The others were reported at the time.

 

[nopigfansintown]

It seems Leonard was sold for 1.5 million apologies:

Millwall defender triggers contract extension

RYAN Leonard has extended his Millwall contract by a year after triggering a clause in his deal. Leonard, 32, has

southwarknews.co.uk

 

[nopigfansintown]

Norwood and Egan prices 6:30-7:00:

Football Heaven - Wilder: 'It's truly incredible' - BBC Sounds

An emotional Chris Wilder on Sheffield United's promotion to the Premier League.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Balham]

Wilder carefully omits the loan fee we paid for Norwood. He was still a superb signing for £2m.

Leonard was £800k-odd in; Southend's former chairman held out out for a higher fee and Wilder chased him for ages. He was Millwall's record signing when we bombed him out after 16 league appearances.