Chedward = bobah

[Casper]

That would all be fine, but Beattie, Naysmith, Speed and Ugo (i.e. the big earners) all worked hard when in the side.

I certainly don't share this Evans hate, even if I admit he's been disappointing. I will blame the manager all day long instead.

I agree they worked hard - but they were the wrong players to get you promoted to the Prem. Actually BT was very skilled in looking like he gave a fook if im honest. He took a quality pen and free kick though! BT is much more suited to a lower prem team (ala Stoke at the mo) where he is still a biggish fish in a small pond, but not the be all and end all, and has something to prove each week. In the championship i got the feeling he was just coasted through, and collecting his wages.

Anyway this is about Chedward - hes crap int he!

 

[TopBoy]

Would you have posted the same comment if his first time strike from a corner had gone in rather than nearly break the bar on Saturday? He's an intelligent footballer that will do well for us providing our style matches his, which for the 1st half it did against Peterborough.

 

[Bladesman]

James Beattie epitomized every that went wrong with the Blades post Warnock. A big name player on massive wages (for us). He's a decent lower premiership player, of that there is no doubt, but a Championship club in transition mode should not be going for your James Beatties. Jamie Ward has had much more of an impact than James Beattie had.

Dont get me wrong, if we had stayed up that season, i would have loved James Beattie to come in then. However, as a championship club it was\is like playing russian roulette paying massive wages for big players on the decline.

It was a gamble that would of worked under the right manager and nearly did when Blackwell took over. Just not enough matches left in the end to sneak into the

 

[lenners]

Would you have posted the same comment if his first time strike from a corner had gone in rather than nearly break the bar on Saturday? He's an intelligent footballer that will do well for us providing our style matches his, which for the 1st half it did against Peterborough.

Billy Sharp once scored a hatrick for United. True story.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Anyway this is about Chedward - hes crap int he!

that would depend on who you are talking about. Chedward was the pun given to a Evans/Ward forward partnership that some people wanted to see last week.

But I get the feeling you are actually talking about Chedwyn in which case no I don't agree that he is crap.

 

[super_pig]

>Billy Sharp once scored a hatrick for United. True story
yeah against qpr.. one of the few times he wasn't running errand boy for bt.. KB dropped him a few games later once bt was fit AFAIR

 

[oldblade]

Looking at the way Billy Sharp is scoring for Donny I think we have to question the style of football we are playing. Sharp looked completely inept playing for United (as many are saying that Evans does) yet he is now scoring for fun with Donny. It seems clear that ball to feet strikers (such as Ched, Sharp, Stead, Webber, Lupoli) are going to fail in Blackwells system of lump it to the strikers. Target men such as Hulse, Henderson and Shipperley are the only one's who would fit in the current system.

Looking at the way the very talented James Harper looks poor for the Blades brings to question tactics and style of play. It's even got me thinking that Brain Howard might not actually be the waste of space he seemed and could make little impact because the ball was hoofed over his head every time.

As I've said several weeks ago on another thread, by playing the way we do most of the time (recent home games excepted) we could make Zinedine Zidane disappear from a game!

 

[Casper]

As I've said several weeks ago on another thread, by playing the way we do most of the time (recent home games excepted) we could make Zinedine Zidane disappear from a game!

yep Blackwell has lost the plot too. Its such a shame cos we were soooo close last year. I can understand a midfield player such as Harper having a hard time with Blackwells tactics, but there is no excuse for Evans. We've played the ball to his head, to his feet........he's led the line, and he's also played off a big target man. Unfortunately he hasnt the football brain or skill required be effective in any of these situations. The guy is pants.

 

[Fiery Blade]

He doesn't appear very good - hardly helped by Blackwells tactics
Howver Toshack seems to get much more out of him than Blackwell does!!!!!!!
Perhaps it is Blackwells fault BLACKWELL OUT!!!

 

[mickerz-blade]

He doesn't appear very good - hardly helped by Blackwells tactics
Howver Toshack seems to get much more out of him than Blackwell does!!!!!!!
Perhaps it is Blackwells fault BLACKWELL OUT!!!

This was you last posting in the early hours and I can see you have a secret desire to be like your hero by the way you sign off to the point of imitation (BLACKWELL OUT)

 

[Ollessendro]

yep Blackwell has lost the plot too. Its such a shame cos we were soooo close last year. I can understand a midfield player such as Harper having a hard time with Blackwells tactics, but there is no excuse for Evans. We've played the ball to his head, to his feet........he's led the line, and he's also played off a big target man. Unfortunately he hasnt the football brain or skill required be effective in any of these situations. The guy is pants.

Not sure about this point in Italics Casper. He's had the ball pumped at his head yes, but not sure about the ball being delivered to his feet.

Evans has been a big disappointment thus far, but the whole team is under performing! We are concentrating on one player who hasn't played well but a player who we know is class in James Harper looks lost with our style of play. Couple that with normally rock solid players such as Morgan, Monty and Kilgallon all playing badly then you have to be questioning management. I hope that we keep Ched until the end of the season and with the likelhood that a new manager will be coming in soon, see how he fares under another gaffer.

 

[Fiery Blade]

This was you last posting in the early hours and I can see you have a secret desire to be like your hero by the way you sign off to the point of imitation (BLACKWELL OUT)

Many thanks Good to know I am being monitored!
Seriously though, Evans has not become a bad player by joining the Blades it must be the way he is and has been directed by coaching staff and management!
Looking at the boy he doesn't seem to be enjoying his lot at the moment!

 

[super_pig]

>we could make Zinedine Zidane disappear from a game!
thing is he wouldn't get in the team.. bootwell would pick monty and quinn and zidane would sit on the bench until the last 5 minutes.. he'd be brought on and not able to change the game in such a short time even though he put in a good few crosses.. then people would come on here and say.. he's crap that zidane.. he loses the ball

 

[Casper]

Not sure about this point in Italics Casper. He's had the ball pumped at his head yes, but not sure about the ball being delivered to his feet.

Evans has been a big disappointment thus far, but the whole team is under performing! We are concentrating on one player who hasn't played well but a player who we know is class in James Harper looks lost with our style of play. Couple that with normally rock solid players such as Morgan, Monty and Kilgallon all playing badly then you have to be questioning management. I hope that we keep Ched until the end of the season and with the likelhood that a new manager will be coming in soon, see how he fares under another gaffer.

I take your point about questioning the management. Blackwell seems to use the good old snooker tactic i use - 'when in doubt, give it a clout'! And he seems to be in doubt the vast majority of the time at the moment.

I seem to remember the Cardiff and Newcastle games though, when we at least tried to play the ball to feet and Ched was taken off in the second half of both games cos he looked like a little boy lost.

I really do hope he turns it around. I would love to be proven wrong about him. I had so much expectation of him - perhaps this is why i give him a hard time now.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

I really do hope he turns it around. I would love to be proven wrong about him. I had so much expectation of him - perhaps this is why i give him a hard time now.

and who's fault is that, hardly the player.

 

[Ollessendro]

I take your point about questioning the management. Blackwell seems to use the good old snooker tactic i use - 'when in doubt, give it a clout'! And he seems to be in doubt the vast majority of the time at the moment.

I seem to remember the Cardiff and Newcastle games though, when we at least tried to play the ball to feet and Ched was taken off in the second half of both games cos he looked like a little boy lost.

I really do hope he turns it around. I would love to be proven wrong about him. I had so much expectation of him - perhaps this is why i give him a hard time now.

He certainly hasn't lit up the stage, in fact far from it. But I do feel that people are being a bit harsh on him. He hit the (underside of the) bar against Peterborough on Saturday and he could easily have scored with his turn and shot against Newcastle. I seem to remember him hitting the bar in another game as well. If these shots had have gone in (which they easily could have done) would people see things differently.

I am not impressed as he seems to be pulling his weight. However he must be wondering what has happened. He left the high flying City to get first team football and play fo one of the top Championship teams pushing for promotion. Instead he spends half the time on the bench and the other half having the ball hoofed up to him. He doesn't know whether to drop deep into midfield because our lacklustre midfield don't have any possession or pulll out wide because Blackwell refuses to play wingers.

Chedwyn has been bobah so far. However, I refuse to right off any player as Bobah whilst we have this Bobah manager doing his clueless clown impression, making the worst out of a decent team and playing completely and utterly bobah tactics.

 

[Casper]

He certainly hasn't lit up the stage, in fact far from it. But I do feel that people are being a bit harsh on him. He hit the (underside of the) bar against Peterborough on Saturday and he could easily have scored with his turn and shot against Newcastle. I seem to remember him hitting the bar in another game as well. If these shots had have gone in (which they easily could have done) would people see things differently.

I am not impressed as he seems to be pulling his weight. However he must be wondering what has happened. He left the high flying City to get first team football and play fo one of the top Championship teams pushing for promotion. Instead he spends half the time on the bench and the other half having the ball hoofed up to him. He doesn't know whether to drop deep into midfield because our lacklustre midfield don't have any possession or pulll out wide because Blackwell refuses to play wingers.

Chedwyn has been bobah so far. However, I refuse to right off any player as Bobah whilst we have this Bobah manager doing his clueless clown impression, making the worst out of a decent team and playing completely and utterly bobah tactics.

Ollessendro, that post is a load of bobah!

 

[Casper]

and who's fault is that, hardly the player.

its goes with the territory though........ massive (for us) potential transfer fee, massive (apparently) wages = high expectations.

 

[Come from away]

Seems to me all those expecting to see flowing attacking one touch football have not been watching much CCC football. Most games are little different from what we see at the Lane, a real mix with a good dose of long ball by just about any team. Evans is doing not bad, had the shots that hit the bar or GK legs gone in this debate would not exist. So, yes he has the talent, no he is not a grinder and he is not ever going to be Zidane.

 

[Casper]

Seems to me all those expecting to see flowing attacking one touch football have not been watching much CCC football. Most games are little different from what we see at the Lane, a real mix with a good dose of long ball by just about any team. Evans is doing not bad, had the shots that hit the bar or GK legs gone in this debate would not exist. So, yes he has the talent, no he is not a grinder and he is not ever going to be Zidane.

Wrong! I've seen enough of what Ched hasnt done. Surely you expect a striker to have the odd shot on goal. If the keeper saves it then he's done his job, if it hits the woodwork its a miss - simple as.

His whole body language is wrong, he doesnt look happy and doesnt look capable.

 

[Come from away]

I guess psychics are never wrong as they can see the inner self just by looking. Wow!

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Wrong! I've seen enough of what Ched hasnt done. Surely you expect a striker to have the odd shot on goal. If the keeper saves it then he's done his job, if it hits the woodwork its a miss - simple as.

His whole body language is wrong, he doesnt look happy and doesnt look capable.

How can he be wrong? If Ched had scored the from the shot that hit the bar and the inital shot that led to the goal then the we wouldn't be having the debate, not this week as any rate.

Do you know how many shots Ched had on goal on Saturday?

 

[Casper]

How can he be wrong? If Ched had scored the from the shot that hit the bar and the inital shot that led to the goal then the we wouldn't be having the debate, not this week as any rate.

Do you know how many shots Ched had on goal on Saturday?

Nope. There are lies, damn lies and statistics. The facts are he scored zero. I would hope\expect my main striker, bought for £3m and one of the highest paid players outside the premiership (quote McCabe) to be chipping in with more than just shots and zero goals, wouldnt you?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Nope. There are lies, damn lies and statistics. The facts are he scored zero. I would hope\expect my main striker, bought for £3m and one of the highest paid players outside the premiership (quote McCabe) to be chipping in with more than just shots and zero goals, wouldnt you?

How do you quantify main striker? If he was our main striker he wouldn't he play every game?

 

[Casper]

How do you quantify main striker? If he was our main striker he wouldn't he play every game?

He is the number 9 (in old money), bought for £3m and paid one of the top wages outside the prem.

The reason he doesnt play every game is cos he's bobah.

Hendo is (and always has been under Blackwell) a target man for the main striker and other forward thinking players to play off - ala Shipps under Warnock.

 

[Ollessendro]

Can any one clear up the Ched Evans transfer fee.

Of course the overall package was £3 million (depending on appearences, goals, international caps etc). However what was the initial payment made by the Blades to City.

I'm absolutely postive it wasn't the £3 million people seem to keep quoting. I heard that it was around £1.5m initially and we'd pay more as and when. However, i have also been reliably informed that it could have been as little as £750k.

I should imagine this post will only generate specualtion, but can anyone shed any light on this?

 

[LouTheBlade]

Regardless of his fee - he hasnt done enough to nail down a regular starting place. Whatever we have paid we have paid it now so no point bleeting about that.

United have had their problems but ive seen him in other teams and he has got some ability. A quality player can replicate that in any team (at least on an individual level). He had a decent game against Palace but apart from that hes been very average and I would sooner see Camara, Cresswell or Billy Sharp playing.

Hasnt impressed me - I can forgive poor performances if the application and effort is there but I don't see it. He could develop into a decent player long term but we need him now - not next season.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

He is the number 9 (in old money), bought for £3m and paid one of the top wages outside the prem.

The reason he doesnt play every game is cos he's bobah.

Hendo is (and always has been under Blackwell) a target man for the main striker and other forward thinking players to play off - ala Shipps under Warnock.

That's settled then if Blackie has bought Ched to be an old fashioned no 9 target man then the manager is a tit. Ched has never been that type of player who is comfortable when the ball it played long to him.

 

[mattbianco1]

I used to think Evans was taking the piss. You know, Billy bigtime type player, slumming it in the 2nd tier. However, i am now of the opinion that i was wrong about him. He isnt taking the piss at all, he genuinely is useless! Blackwell should try and offload him from the wage bill in January, but we all know it aint going to happen, dont we.

Foxy / Linz...

Can we have a new button to lower peoples reputation by "disapproving" the statements made? We can thank people but can put the thumbs down when i read the same old post over and over again.

Ched Evans will be a very very good player. If he had come through our youth system you would all be raving about him but becasue we've bought him you all slag him.

Can i be the first person to say "No Thanks" to Caspers post...

We've had better (much) forwards and we've had worse (much) forwards. Trouble for Chedwyn is, we've only ever had one who cost more and this, along with the oft quoted bit about him being one of the best paid players outside the Premiership mean there is extra expectation on him.

You could argue it's not his fault as he didn't set the transfer fee, but sometimes life isn't fair and whether he likes it or not, these things means he carries extra weight on his shoulders.

If he'd cost 500k or something, then he wouldn't be quite so under the microscope, but he did, and so he is.

He cost £750,000.

He will probably never ever cost us £3m because of all the add ons will never all happen.

 

[Robbie]

He cost £750,000..

And your proof of this is? Our chairman claims we spent £3 million on him.

He will probably never ever cost us £3m because of all the add ons will never all happen.

I'll entertain this......

For what reasons will we never pay all the add ons?
Because he isn't good enough?
Because the team isn't good enough?
Because Blackwell plays him wrong?