Ched costing £1M - Exclusive!

[Snowman]

Snowman , How about 7 goals or more bet next season , fifty quid to a kids charity loser pays , i know i will pay and show reciept on here if i lose , on your conscience for life if you dont pay

Well, you started by saying he would be worth every penny and we would all see. That sort of gave me the impression that he was going to be something special. You then got on to "judging what success was". It seems your idea of success is that he scores 7 goals in an entire season. Come on we have a full back that scored more than that and Evans is supposed to be a striker. I'd call 15 a success. I hope he proves me wrong, but if he scores more than 12 I would think that was pretty good and he would have proved to be worth whatever we are paying him.

I'll go for that as a bet. I reckon he won't score more than 12 in the entire league season only league games to count. (I would bar him from penalties as well, but I don't reckon he will wrestle that away from Billy).

What intrigues me is why appear to think I wouldn't pay if I lose? Bit strong "on your conscience for life". Why?

 

[LurkerBlade]

Speaking to a friend at the weekend who I believe on all things Chesterfield, he advised that the actual figure will be £250k.

He also commented that it will be announced this week & that the general feeling behind the scenes was that Evans was injured less than reported and often just complained of muscles "feeling tight" but in reality wasn't up for a relegation dogfight & didn't want to be there.

He also went on to say that this has been agreed by Wilder but not "requested" & is more to do with McCabe.

He expects that Evans will be loaned out or left on the sidelines but admitted Wilder could get something out of him but doesn't expect him to try that hard.

Not ITK just reporting what I heard from a reputable source.

 

[stringjunior]

He'll be confirmed this afternoon I believe.

 

[JohnDenver]

Well, you started by saying he would be worth every penny and we would all see. That sort of gave me the impression that he was going to be something special. You then got on to "judging what success was". It seems your idea of success is that he scores 7 goals in an entire season. Come on we have a full back that scored more than that and Evans is supposed to be a striker. I'd call 15 a success. I hope he proves me wrong, but if he scores more than 12 I would think that was pretty good and he would have proved to be worth whatever we are paying him.

I'll go for that as a bet. I reckon he won't score more than 12 in the entire league season only league games to count. (I would bar him from penalties as well, but I don't reckon he will wrestle that away from Billy).

What intrigues me is why appear to think I wouldn't pay if I lose? Bit strong "on your conscience for life". Why?

Is £1m for a championship striker who scores 12 goals about the going rate these days?

 

[Muttley]

He'll be confirmed this afternoon I believe.

Can they actually do that before the window opens in June?

 

[1danewhitehouse]

I thought the 500k people were talking about was his potential fee paid to Chesterfield. The article is talking about Evans' potential earnings from us. If he gets a two year deal at 10k then that's approx. £1m.

Seems like you're conflating two different figures. And assuming the Sun is an accurate source for anything.

I think it was Alan Biggs recently said it would be a 3 year deal. If the £1million from the sun had any credence, he’d be looking at about £6,400.00 per week on that basis. But of course it’s the Sun so likely to be bollocks and even if it’s not, we have no idea whether that would be a basic salary of the maximum he could earn depending on bonuses etc.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

I've never been able to find good info on average wages. Some places put it as low as £4k/week, but I assume that includes all your first year professionals and such that take the average down significantly. For someone expected to be in the match day squad, 10k probably isn't that much relatively speaking.

If we believe rumours, the only players who earned around £10k per week during our league 1 stay (after Evans, Quinn etc. left) have been Sharp and Brayford. Wages will go up upon promotion though so the league 1 salaries are perhaps not all that relevant to what our wage structure will be this coming season.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

* damp squib (old word for a firework, it being damp would have been a disappointment). Squid makes no sense, they're are supposed to be damp.

/pedantic Blade

In “They’re are” the are is redundant.


Even more pedantic blade.

 

[stringjunior]

Can they actually do that before the window opens in June?

I suppose we could sign a pre-contract agreement.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

He probably hasn't earned it that's not what it's about. We probably looked at strikers that were on a par with evans in the championship and the money was a lot more than the evans deal it's about if wilder thinks he will score goals in the championship he has to judge if he can step up into the championship.
If wilder thinks he can and we have to pay ten grand a week then that's what we have to pay.

It’s extremely difficult to say what “on a par with Evans” means these days. Nobody out there is in the same situation with the sae variables at work. He could be anything from completely useless to a multi-million pound player. So difficult to predict how this one will turn out.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Still too much if it's true which I doubt very much it is.

No player is worth 6.5k a week after barely playing for 5 years and never having performed particularly well bar a few games at that level.

Hopefully the real deal will be heavily based on performance and earning his money. 6.5k a week guaranteed for 3 years on Evans at this stage would be more lunacy than some of our more recent beggar belief deals.

Thankfully I'm hopeful that it's much less than that.

If I were to guess I’d say he’ll be on something like £4k per week, maybe £5k max. But there will be bonuses and a signing on fee as these are part and parcel of any contract.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Well, you started by saying he would be worth every penny and we would all see. That sort of gave me the impression that he was going to be something special. You then got on to "judging what success was". It seems your idea of success is that he scores 7 goals in an entire season. Come on we have a full back that scored more than that and Evans is supposed to be a striker. I'd call 15 a success. I hope he proves me wrong, but if he scores more than 12 I would think that was pretty good and he would have proved to be worth whatever we are paying him.

I'll go for that as a bet. I reckon he won't score more than 12 in the entire league season only league games to count. (I would bar him from penalties as well, but I don't reckon he will wrestle that away from Billy).

What intrigues me is why appear to think I wouldn't pay if I lose? Bit strong "on your conscience for life". Why?

I'd suggest, with the sort of money being talked about that 10 or more goals at championship level would be classed as good value.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Can they actually do that before the window opens in June?

The deal can be agreed and signed. He can't be registered to play for Sheffield Untied til the transfer window opens but as there are no games, it doesn't really matter.

 

[Sean Thornton]

View/opinion = fetish. Only with me, eh!

The basis of your "opinion" , if you believed it, which you appear not too. I think anyway, it's not that clear, is that a man who took on the football authorities and got £25mout of the PL/FA protected West Ham would roll over if challenged by a L1 footballer.

Not to mention the possibility of foisting a player on Wilder or wrecking any pay structure when for the first in years everyone is pulling together..

Rather than call people delicate flowers - it was only you who seemed weepy - you may want to think about how silly your "opinion" is.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Made a point on BM about whether these wage rumours being true are based on the former rumour of Ched's agent apparently going to sue the club

Then I read this:


"Following Evans' acquittal, his representatives had looked at suing the Blades for lost earnings. Those plans have now been scrapped."

Makes one wonder

Not really.

 

[Champagneblade]

I don't get the suing aspect at all.

We didn't extend his deal whilst he was apparently wrongfully locked up?

We didn't pay him after his contract had already expired?

We didn't offer him a deal when a vast array of our sponsors suggested they'd take money out of the club if we signed him?

I don't see how in any way Ched Evans' agent can suggest he was in any way wronged by Sheffield United.

Had he performed better in court, the club could have been better off by about 5m a season in revenue if not more. Has his agent got a spare 25m he'd fancy lending his young charge? It works both ways.

I'd be amazed as per Sean's note if, having taken West Ham to the High Court and Parliament (I went there, top day out!) he'd just succumb to some opportunist agent. As if Ched needed more negative publicity!

Is Bonky Madness as one poster might put it.

 

[Davalon]

Speaking to a friend at the weekend who I believe on all things Chesterfield, he advised that the actual figure will be £250k.

He also commented that it will be announced this week & that the general feeling behind the scenes was that Evans was injured less than reported and often just complained of muscles "feeling tight" but in reality wasn't up for a relegation dogfight & didn't want to be there.

He also went on to say that this has been agreed by Wilder but not "requested" & is more to do with McCabe.

He expects that Evans will be loaned out or left on the sidelines but admitted Wilder could get something out of him but doesn't expect him to try that hard.

Not ITK just reporting what I heard from a reputable source.

No idea if true mate but I have no problem believing that it all could be.

 

[Torrix1889]

Can they actually do that before the window opens in June?

They can announce the deal with Evans to become an SUFC player on 1st July.

 

[Ricky]

The basis of your "opinion" , if you believed it, which you appear not too. I think anyway, it's not that clear, is that a man who took on the football authorities and got £25mout of the PL/FA protected West Ham would roll over if challenged by a L1 footballer.

Not to mention the possibility of foisting a player on Wilder or wrecking any pay structure when for the first in years everyone is pulling together..

Rather than call people delicate flowers - it was only you who seemed weepy - you may want to think about how silly your "opinion" is.

Oh everyone who disagrees with you 'weeps' don't they Sean.

It's far from silly to suggest that McCabe wouldn't want to go through the hassle of a legal process, especially if there was a good chance he'd lose, when there's the convenient alternative of signing him and also honouring any promise he made.

I didn't say Wilder didn't also agree to it.

There's no suggestion anywhere that it would wreak any pay structure.

 

[ShorehamRevolution]

If true Worth every penny you will all see.

How many goals do you think he'll score in the championship?

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Speaking to a friend at the weekend who I believe on all things Chesterfield, he advised that the actual figure will be £250k.

He also commented that it will be announced this week & that the general feeling behind the scenes was that Evans was injured less than reported and often just complained of muscles "feeling tight" but in reality wasn't up for a relegation dogfight & didn't want to be there.

He also went on to say that this has been agreed by Wilder but not "requested" & is more to do with McCabe.

He expects that Evans will be loaned out or left on the sidelines but admitted Wilder could get something out of him but doesn't expect him to try that hard.

Not ITK just reporting what I heard from a reputable source.

Think it all depends on Evans attitude IMO . He ain't top dag anymore .

 

[Grizzly blade]

I'm sick of hearing about it to be honest.

I will wait to see how he gets on.

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

Speaking to a friend at the weekend who I believe on all things Chesterfield, he advised that the actual figure will be £250k.

He also commented that it will be announced this week & that the general feeling behind the scenes was that Evans was injured less than reported and often just complained of muscles "feeling tight" but in reality wasn't up for a relegation dogfight & didn't want to be there.

He also went on to say that this has been agreed by Wilder but not "requested" & is more to do with McCabe.

He expects that Evans will be loaned out or left on the sidelines but admitted Wilder could get something out of him but doesn't expect him to try that hard.

Not ITK just reporting what I heard from a reputable source.

Sounds very plausible.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Oh everyone who disagrees with you 'weeps' don't they Sean.

It's far from silly to suggest that McCabe wouldn't want to go through the hassle of a legal process, especially if there was a good chance he'd lose, when there's the convenient alternative of signing him and also honouring any promise he made.

I didn't say Wilder didn't also agree to it.

There's no suggestion anywhere that it would wreak any pay structure.

Says the poster who calls others delicate flowers for disagreeing with his take on things.


So despite someone on here saying he believed there was no case to be had, someone who actually knows the law, you're still of the opinion that there could a possibility of McCabe losing? Based on what?

I didn't say you did say anything about Wilder. I put a thought to you. Same as with the pay structure. If like me, you don't know what current players are earning - and have no idea of Cheds "deal" how can you know the figure in the article you don't believe may not break that?

I don't believe it's the first time you've mentioned this story. Because you seem to believe it could be true, that doesn't make it so. I disagree, it is a forum and that's what happens.

If McCabe had rolled over on this one, his credibility would be shot. Imagine the further fallout Ched has a poor season or is injured half the time. The clubs bigger than both him and Evans and personally I'd doubt KMc would take a risk like this just to see off a possible court case.

 

[Greenwich Blade]

I suppose we could sign a pre-contract agreement.

Could we sell him before the transfer window opens? That'd get us in the record books again, surely?

 

[TJB.]

He also went on to say that this has been agreed by Wilder but not "requested" & is more to do with McCabe.

The 'gentlemans agreement' rumour rides on.

Up to Ched, then. Prove you're up to it. Sink or swim time.

 

[PokerBlade]

I think it was Alan Biggs recently said it would be a 3 year deal. If the £1million from the sun had any credence, he’d be looking at about £6,400.00 per week on that basis. But of course it’s the Sun so likely to be bollocks and even if it’s not, we have no idea whether that would be a basic salary of the maximum he could earn depending on bonuses etc.

The article said 10k a week, so if it's a 3 year deal then they've already failed at pretty basic maths. So as usual, they haven't got a clue what they're talking about.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

They can announce the deal with Evans to become an SUFC player on 1st July.

That's a purely administrative date for filing the paperwork. The deal could be agreed, signed, announced at any time before then.

He also commented that it will be announced this week & that the general feeling behind the scenes was that Evans was injured less than reported and often just complained of muscles "feeling tight" but in reality wasn't up for a relegation dogfight & didn't want to be there.

Yep, sounds like Evans circa 2010/11 to me.

 

[Muttley]

For me the pressure is all now on Ched himself, not SUFC. As someone already stated it's "sink or swim " time for him. We are re-signing him, no he has to be motivated and able to give no less than 100% every day, be it in training or on the pitch, otherwise he'll be out.

 

[Revolution]

The basis of your "opinion" , if you believed it, which you appear not too. I think anyway, it's not that clear, is that a man who took on the football authorities and got £25mout of the PL/FA protected West Ham would roll over if challenged by a L1 footballer.

Of course, the Kevin McCabe who took on the authorities and spent a considerable sum of money doing so - for which he deserves enormous credit - is the same Kevin McCabe who lets the club get outmanoeuvred by the likes of Mark Rankine when it comes to transfer negotiations, so the idea is not completely implausible.

I still think McCabe is behind this deal, although the idea that Evans would succeed with legal action is ludicrous. We'd have more chance of getting damages off him.