Cheating Bastards

[PTBlade]

Watching Saka trying hard to get a penalty, rather than try and score got me thinking.

 

[Shawy24]

Don’t watch other teams. Sorry.

 

[Danetheblade]

Went for yes. It’s part and parcel of football. If you want to see proper football, get yourselves off to a non-league game. Tired of seeing us get fucked over by other teams doing it. There’s zero point in the “honest” way of football. You’ve seen what clattercunt has said about us in the past.

 

[Varkanoid]

You forgot the option

"No as we can not fake any foul to save our lives" (ref the many Basham attempts)

 

[Tezza1889]

If a player for England in the world cup final can cheat us the winning penalty then he has my blessing..

The rest of the world cheated in WCF 's over the years, more than once sending us out..

Can't beat em, join em.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

Watch the Man Utd/Liverpool match back. The penalty awarded at the end was never a penalty. Wan Bissaka slides in but doesn't make contact with Elliott. Elliott moves towards Wan Bissaka, stops running so that he falls forward and as he does his trailing leg makes contact with Wan Bissaka. So Elliott made contact with Wan Bissaka and not vice versa. Never a penalty but VAR deemed it to be.

This is another example of players cheating. I've seen this countless times where players stop running and cause contact, often with them making contact and not the offending player. Referees and VAR award them and pundits lap them up.

As soon as I watched it on MOTD I said to myself there was no contact from Wan Bissaka, but the idiots in the studio talked as if it was a stonewell penalty.

What makes me both laugh and boil my piss is the general dishonesty all round. A player could have last contact with a ball for it to out for a throw in or corner. When the correct decision is given they argue with the linesmen as if they got the decision wrong when they know too bloody well that they touched it last. This is why I laugh when managers moan about referees after coaching their players to lie and cheat.

Same with a two footed challenge. A player could slide in two footed from behind, take out the player nearly causing a career ending injury. As soon as the referee comes over the offending teams players surround the referee proclaiming innocence and begging for him to not send a player off.

Annoyingly at the start of the season referees started clamping down on dissent with new rules to card players for it. As the season has gone on players have reverted back to arguing with the referees unpunished.

I've always despised cheats and wish referees with a pair of balls would card them. Take the injured player who rolls around on the floor needing treatment. They're so badly injured that they need the support of the physio to leave the pitch as they can't walk without limping. They return to the pitch limping and immediately join an attack, where the limp immediately dissappears and they mever limp again as soon as they can join in a counter attack. Card the bastards!!! This one boils my piss more than any other. I can remember Mamadou Sidibe doing it at Bramall Lane for Stoke and I hated him ever since.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Every game a player "buys" a foul. Every single game. Every single side.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Every game a player "buys" a foul. Every single game. Every single side.

Which is certainly true, but it doesn’t make it right. See #6

 

[s20Blade]

Billy Sharp often tried this before berating the ref.

 

[1889]

I saw the last minute Saka attempted con job. He’s left footed, if he’d carried on, he’d have been able to just roll the ball passed the keeper. Very strange decision, I always thought he was an honest sort of a player tbh, certainly was but I suppose they get encouraged to go down at the slightest touch

 

[JJBlade]

He's probably on a bigger bonus for winning penalties than he is for scoring a goal, so fuck the fans, fuck football, fuck his team mates, fuck the manager, and fuck playing the game fairly.

 

[Stanthemanfan]

I saw the last minute Saka attempted con job. He’s left footed, if he’d carried on, he’d have been able to just roll the ball passed the keeper. Very strange decision, I always thought he was an honest sort of a player tbh, certainly was but I suppose they get encouraged to go down at the slightest touch

Honest?
He got booked for diving against us when we first got to prem under wilder

 

[Grey Blade]

'Same old Arsenal, always cheating' Just watched Crystal Palace v Arsenal - 1-2 onwards. The amount of shirt pulling , holding players at corners, goalkeeper wasting time at goal kicks - it was endless. Their little No 49 had his arms wrapped around a Palace player at one corner after the ball was in play. It should have been a penalty - I don't really understand what purpose VAR serves other than giving ridiculous marginal off sides.

Every corner there was pushing and pulling going on - both sides guilty.

Towards the end an Arsenal player was caught on his ankle - he went down yelping (clearly heard on TV) and rolled around holding his leg, had a bit of treatment and was running around a couple of minutes later. I don't crave football of the 60s but the likes of Dave Mackay, Tommy Smith and Chopper Harris would never have let the opposition players know they'd been hurt!

To give credit to the ref, he did give the throw in to Palace when one of the Arsenal player stole a few yards - at least I think that's why he awarded it.

The cheating ruins what should be a good game.

 

[CopenhagenBlade]

Did you see Højlund from Man U hold Halland last week. Absolutely no intention of playing the ball, not even looking at it, just holding on. I can’t believe the refs don’t do more about this.

 

[Grey Blade]

Did you see Højlund from Man U hold Halland last week. Absolutely no intention of playing the ball, not even looking at it, just holding on. I can’t believe the refs don’t do more about this.

I remember seeing Haaland laughing at someone after being held but I couldn't work out if he was laughing sarcastically or thought it was all just good fun.

 

[CopenhagenBlade]

I remember seeing Haaland laughing at someone after being held but I couldn't work out if he was laughing sarcastically or thought it was all just good fun.

It’s possible that the players just accept it now as they know that will do exactly the same if they were defending the corner.
Trouble is it goes down to the kids level. I reffed an U-10 game a couple of weeks ago and they were all at it, without really understanding what they were doing and why

 

[jt64]

The cheating ruins what should be a good game.

If the refs had either consistency or bollocks it wouldn't be a problem

 

[Grey Blade]

If the refs had either consistency or bollocks it wouldn't be a problem

6 of one and half a dozen of the other I think (cheating and c or b that is!)

 

[LondonBlade89]

'Same old Arsenal, always cheating' Just watched Crystal Palace v Arsenal - 1-2 onwards. The amount of shirt pulling , holding players at corners, goalkeeper wasting time at goal kicks - it was endless. Their little No 49 had his arms wrapped around a Palace player at one corner after the ball was in play. It should have been a penalty - I don't really understand what purpose VAR serves other than giving ridiculous marginal off sides.

Every corner there was pushing and pulling going on - both sides guilty.

Towards the end an Arsenal player was caught on his ankle - he went down yelping (clearly heard on TV) and rolled around holding his leg, had a bit of treatment and was running around a couple of minutes later. I don't crave football of the 60s but the likes of Dave Mackay, Tommy Smith and Chopper Harris would never have let the opposition players know they'd been hurt!

To give credit to the ref, he did give the throw in to Palace when one of the Arsenal player stole a few yards - at least I think that's why he awarded it.

The cheating ruins what should be a good game.

I generally accept a bit of gamesmanship as just something that happens and is part of the game. Time wasting, getting players carded. It is what it is. But f*ck me, corners. Over the past few years they’ve just become ridiculous. I’ve no idea how they’re worked on in training but most corners seem to involve most of the people in the box just holding each other to try and free up a jumper. It’s a joke and I genuinely think needs fixing.

 

[jt64]

I generally accept a bit of gamesmanship as just something that happens and is part of the game. Time wasting, getting players carded. It is what it is. But f*ck me, corners. Over the past few years they’ve just become ridiculous. I’ve no idea how they’re worked on in training but most corners seem to involve most of the people in the box just holding each other to try and free up a jumper. It’s a joke and I genuinely think needs fixing.

Nothing needs fixing, it just needs referees to stop:

a) thinking the rules as to what constitutes a direct free kick offence change when the defending player is in his own penalty area
b) thinking the rules as to what constitutes a yellow card offence change when a player has previously been cautioned
c) thinking the rules as to what constitutes a yellow card offence change and becomes more relaxed after around 60-70 minutes

Just call the games consistently and 99% of the "problems" go away overnight

 

[SwissBlade]

'Same old Arsenal, always cheating' Just watched Crystal Palace v Arsenal - 1-2 onwards. The amount of shirt pulling , holding players at corners, goalkeeper wasting time at goal kicks - it was endless. Their little No 49 had his arms wrapped around a Palace player at one corner after the ball was in play. It should have been a penalty - I don't really understand what purpose VAR serves other than giving ridiculous marginal off sides.

Every corner there was pushing and pulling going on - both sides guilty.

Towards the end an Arsenal player was caught on his ankle - he went down yelping (clearly heard on TV) and rolled around holding his leg, had a bit of treatment and was running around a couple of minutes later. I don't crave football of the 60s but the likes of Dave Mackay, Tommy Smith and Chopper Harris would never have let the opposition players know they'd been hurt!

To give credit to the ref, he did give the throw in to Palace when one of the Arsenal player stole a few yards - at least I think that's why he awarded it.

The cheating ruins what should be a good game.

And in two games we’ve had players hacked down for free kicks only for them to grab the ball expecting/ influencing a freekick… only for refs to give a freekick the other way.

Kyle Walker fakes a headbutt and goes down, trying to get the oppo player booked. Should’ve been off for that.

Game won’t improve until players start taking account of their behaviour

 

[LondonBlade89]

Nothing needs fixing, it just needs referees to stop:

a) thinking the rules as to what constitutes a direct free kick offence change when the defending player is in his own penalty area
b) thinking the rules as to what constitutes a yellow card offence change when a player has previously been cautioned
c) thinking the rules as to what constitutes a yellow card offence change and becomes more relaxed after around 60-70 minutes

Just call the games consistently and 99% of the "problems" go away overnight

B and C make no real difference to my point really. A certainly does. But I think it needs “fixing” because referees clearly need telling. Corners are barely watchable. Teams need to be told that referees are going to be a lot harsher on them and refs need to actually do it.

 

[Willie Carlin]

It’s possible that the players just accept it now as they know that will do exactly the same if they were defending the corner.
Trouble is it goes down to the kids level. I reffed an U-10 game a couple of weeks ago and they were all at it, without really understanding what they were doing and why

Heard several pundits saying it’s all part of the game. I get fed up of players fouling and commentators saying he’s taken one for the team.

 

[The Crab]

'Same old Arsenal, always cheating' Just watched Crystal Palace v Arsenal - 1-2 onwards. The amount of shirt pulling , holding players at corners, goalkeeper wasting time at goal kicks - it was endless. Their little No 49 had his arms wrapped around a Palace player at one corner after the ball was in play. It should have been a penalty - I don't really understand what purpose VAR serves other than giving ridiculous marginal off sides.

Every corner there was pushing and pulling going on - both sides guilty.

Towards the end an Arsenal player was caught on his ankle - he went down yelping (clearly heard on TV) and rolled around holding his leg, had a bit of treatment and was running around a couple of minutes later. I don't crave football of the 60s but the likes of Dave Mackay, Tommy Smith and Chopper Harris would never have let the opposition players know they'd been hurt!

To give credit to the ref, he did give the throw in to Palace when one of the Arsenal player stole a few yards - at least I think that's why he awarded it.

The cheating ruins what should be a good game.

It even happens on Sundays now, the last bastion of the proper tackle

 

[The Crab]

It’s possible that the players just accept it now as they know that will do exactly the same if they were defending the corner.
Trouble is it goes down to the kids level. I reffed an U-10 game a couple of weeks ago and they were all at it, without really understanding what they were doing and why

Because they see it on the telly, it’s normalised

 

[The Crab]

Heard several pundits saying it’s all part of the game. I get fed up of players fouling and commentators saying he’s taken one for the team.

It’s not part of the game, it’s cheating. And these pundits were doing it when they were playing. Bastards

 

[jt64]

B and C make no real difference to my point really. A certainly does

Your specific point, true, I'm just going more into other examples on how refs are inconsistent based on the game state

 

[Rochdaleblade]

It even happens on Sundays now, the last bastion of the proper tackle

Watched my neighbours kid in an u11s game last month. Two lads were doing the talking behinds your hand thing. Don't know who they thought were videoing them.

 

[Willie Carlin]

It’s not part of the game, it’s cheating. And these pundits were doing it when they were playing. Bastards

Agree!!!