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A hugely disappointing way to finish before the international break. After an improvement in results, and performances, today was a big step back. Not sure there was anything positive to take at all from today. Ayew did ok and got his first goal and Donovan was lively throughout but overall, we never got going. Charlton were not exactly great but fought hard today and in the end, they just shaded a poor game. The goals were horrific. The first saw us lose several 50-50 challenges and then we let an uncontested shot come in. Cooper has to better and lets it in, on his near post. They could have had a second but their lad made a mess of a free finish after more defending where we stood off.



We found a way back as Ayew headed in after a rebound biuncdd his way and you thought we might settle down but it never happened. We created little, did not win midfield and Charlton won too many loose balls. Not sure we ever had control of the game. Charlton had not won in 11 but gained confidence from a Blades side who did not assert themselves, individually, or collectively. Half time and we took off the dreadful Choudhury, but disaster struck when Seriki picked up a really serious injury (that turns out to be season ending). We still never really threatened but neither did they. Seemed to be drifting to a 1-1 stalemate but then Burrows stands off, the cross comes in and nobody reacts. Gooden finishes and we are behind. Peck had a late chance but we did not deserve anything.



It was a timid performance, where we did not battle, win the ugly stuff but played little football of note. We created very little. It was back to the performances of a few weeks ago, where we had no clear game plan at all. Charlton are a side that have plummeted like a stone and Jones was under pressure but they simply fought a bit and we offered no resistance. We have so many physically weak players who lack drive and urgency. It is a nothing set of men who will probably do just enough to stay away from trouble but are miles off a side that will be anywhere near the top 8. We have played some dire sides recently and today was one we needed to get something from but got nothing, deservedly. Throw in losing a key man and it’s been a really bad day.

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Cooper 4/10 – Praised him a lot this season but he has to do better on the first goal. It goes in near post, way too easily. After this did not have loads to do. The 2nd goal, was down to others rather than him.



Choudhury 3/10 – Thought he was our weakest player first half as they came down this side routinely. Out of position constantly and so slow to react to situations. He was poor on the ball too. Thankfully hauled off at HT.



Burrows 4/10 – First goal he is nowhere to be seen as his winger smashes a shot in. Second goal, he backs off, does not engage and then fails to stop the cross. He struggled defensively but had a few moves going forward, including one surging run and shot blocked. Major question marks on the winner though.



Tanganga 4/10 – Another nothing sort of game. Not sure we particularly dominated in any area of the field. He was sloppy in possession and did not really win many tackles/headers. Winner, the whole defence is so slow to react.



Kitching 5/10 – Best defender but that is not saying much. Even he was just average. Won a few tackles and interceptions and tried to carry it out.



Phillips 4/10 – Poorest game he has had for a while. He looked off the pace & never really got on the ball. I was really disappointed with the whole midfield today as against a poor side, we never had any control at all. He had one free kick saved but nothing else really that effective.



Peck 4/10 – As above. Game just passed him by but we never really went through midfield at all. They just lived off scraps but both needed to do much more. They should dominate against such a poor side but did not do that. One late shot saved.



Donovan 6.5/10 – Our best player by some distance. He looked to get on the ball, try and drive at players and was always positive. Not everything came off but he kept trying to find a moment. Needed more help but did not get it



Chong 3.5/10 – Thought our right side was atrocious again. Weak, out of position and offered nothing going forward. He constantly looked to go inside but no end product. A lot of meek challenges and no end product. One shot at the keeper apart, he offered next to nothing.



Brereton Diaz 4/10 – An ineffectual game where he looked sluggish and cannot recall a shot/cross/assist. He looked off the pace and never really affected the game. Kept looking at the bench, perhaps looking for his number, that is how tired he looked.



Ayew 6/10 – Reacted to score from the rebound and generally looked the most lively and dangerous attacker, but again a low bar. He at least had a few touches, bits of link play but we created very little really all game.



Subs –



Serki – Not sure he touched the ball and then suffers an awful injury. We lose him for the season now. I know this is a freak injury and can happen to anyone, but he does seem very injury prone sadly. Rarely does he go a few months without an injury of some sort. Will be missed though as Choudhury has really struggled. No idea why Doherty is here though, if he still does not play?



McGuinness 4/10 – Usual mix of clumsy pieces of play with weak headed attempts. He was put up top for the end but won nothing. Seems to shrink in chalkenges. So weak for a big guy.



Cannon 3/10 – Did nothing positive and got shrugged off too easily. So weak and lacks pace/strength to really contribute anything.



Arblaster – A few threaded passes but a few giveaways too.



Campbell – Came on too late for me. No real chance to get in the game.



Manager Rating: Wilder 3/10 – Timid showing. Slow to start and then even when back in the game, did not push on. 2nd half was a nothing performance. Did not even try and win the game. Got what we deserved. A worry that even Nathan Jones seemed to have more tactical ideas.



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Charlton – Somehow did the double over us last season – make it three now. Last season stayed up with a few games to spare – mainly due to the shocking quality of the sides in the division but credit Jones for keeping them up first season. He is an obnoxious and irritating little man but does seem to get the most out of a poor squad and you cannot say he does not give it all – but like Holloway and a few others – all seems a bit performative his antics/gimmicks. They started quite well and had some surprise win but have tumbled like a stone in the last weeks and are now back down near where I expected them to be. I like some of the recruitment actually (Alli and Grant did well at this level for Pompey and WBA) and already had a decent mix of experience so I thought they may just have enough to stay away from the bottom three but have regressed badly and now seem in a bit of a rut. I like the look of Tyrese Campbell (their one!) but seems rather in and out. Kelman pops up with the odd goal but I have reservations about some quite agricultural defenders and have added a suspect keeper, Okonkwo, from Wrexham, who has now been dropped.



Today, they scored a good individual first goal, then recovered after conceding an equaliser and in the end did just enough to get a much needed win. They did battle and fight but had little quality but found the moments they needed to win. Will have been surprised how little we offered really.







Opposition player of the match – Alli scored a really good goal and was a threat, as was Campbell, on the other side. They had far better wide threats.



Opposition weak link – The defence was not really tested but Bindon was poor. Had a number booked and skirted close to the edge.





Referee – Booked a fair number of the Charlton players rightly for some cynical challenges. Not sure why the Charlton fans were so annoyed with him? Certainly his performance did not affect any major decisions/ result.



Day out - Rare away day for me. My lad got on at Derby from Uni and 7 of us (Roy, Bladespod, Travelling Blade etc) went down meeting a few fown there including Phil (Carrier Bag), Jon (4 Blades) and Sam (Pinch). Bit of a crawl round Greenwich and then Deptford post game. Like a number of away days. Good day spoilt by the football!
 



That Tanganga looked better at RB than CB says a lot.
The fitness levels are shocking, Diaz looked cooked 2nd half.
IMO we are in a relegation fight.
The fans stuck with them today and it was a good day (bar the game as you say) but patience is wearing thin.
I for one don't blame Wilder half as much as the players not doing the basics.
 
That was an exhausting watch Deaders and it's even left this old sod just too tired to really give much of a fuck anymore. All I'll say is I'd give Burrows a 1/10 because his defending was abysmal. I'm in my 60's and I was screaming at him to cover the outside when they're winger got the ball. He dropped the shoulder twice and beat Burrows both times. I knew what he was going to do, why didn't he? Unforgivable but Wilder loves him so what does it matter, jobs for the boys with this prick even though McCallum is twice the player Burrows is.
Brereton Diaz is a 1/10, I started docking him a point every time he mis controlled the ball and as you don't do negative numbers I stopped at 1.

Wilder 1/10, picking too many favourites and never the best eleven.
 
Chong 3.5/10 – Thought our right side was atrocious again. Weak, out of position and offered nothing going forward. He constantly looked to go inside but no end product. A lot of meek challenges and no end product. One shot at the keeper apart, he offered next to nothing.

Generous. I’m not sure he got one thing right till the cross for Peck’s chance near the end. He’s weak, constantly makes the wrong decision. Despite playing together loads, him and Choudhury look like they’re meeting each other for the first time every single game.

As Maurice Maurice said above, we were so bad that it was actually tiring to watch. It’s so fucking boring at times under Wilder. After a modest improvement over the last handful of games we’re back to this. Really frustrating. I’m glad it’s the break.
 
Opposition weak link – The defence was not really tested but Bindon was poor.
Agree that we didn’t particularly test the middle of their defence much, but didn’t think Bindon stood out as being poor. We kept lumping it in the vague direction of Ayew first half and Bindon won everything – think Ayew and BBD switched sides and Bindon continued to win in the air against BBD. Was booked, but didn’t let that impact his defending – he only committed one other foul first half right in front of us in the away end, and none in the 2nd (largely helped by not being remotely put under pressure admittedly!).
 
Our best 3 outfield players are loans players. Expect Donovan recalled In Jan too. Serki now out too for a long time.

Leaves us Cooper and Peck and not a lot else.
I can't think why Donovan will get recalled now he's getting plenty of game time.
 



I’d go as far as saying yesterday was the most disappointing game of the season so far. Finally on a decent run of form and looking up, playing better, things clicking. And what we are served up at a team fighting the drop, no wins in 11, lost four in a row, is a performance totally lacking in Ideas and physicality. It’s such a huge step back and places the entire period of form under question for me.
 
That was an exhausting watch Deaders and it's even left this old sod just too tired to really give much of a fuck anymore. All I'll say is I'd give Burrows a 1/10 because his defending was abysmal. I'm in my 60's and I was screaming at him to cover the outside when they're winger got the ball. He dropped the shoulder twice and beat Burrows both times. I knew what he was going to do, why didn't he? Unforgivable but Wilder loves him so what does it matter, jobs for the boys with this prick even though McCallum is twice the player Burrows is.
Brereton Diaz is a 1/10, I started docking him a point every time he mis controlled the ball and as you don't do negative numbers I stopped at 1.

Wilder 1/10, picking too many favourites and never the best eleven.
Burrows cannot defend. He was shocking last season and is reverting to type again. McCallum plays in front of Burrows for me, at least he can defend.
 
Tanganga a 2 at most. 50p head got turned all game, which lead to the first. The fact he's captain says a lot about this group.

Subs should have been made 20mins earlier. BBD was running in treacle after 30 mins. Surely Campbell had 20mins and at least one sprint in him???

And for the love of God please play 3 midfielders. Every loose ball dropped to them in the middle of the park.
 
Burrows cannot defend. He was shocking last season and is reverting to type again. McCallum plays in front of Burrows for me, at least he can defend.
Just can’t agree with that. I like McCallum but I’m not convinced had he started yesterday that either of those goals are prevented, and a large part of us looking better in possession in recent games has come from actually having one of the full backs be comfortable with the ball. McCallum isn’t some sort of cross-blocking machine, he is a better all-round defender (particularly aerially), but we lose a lot in possession when he sees a lot of the ball in my opinion – his contribution to the opener vs Lincoln stood out as a rare plus on that front. In McCallum’s last start vs Pompey he was poor defensively and worse the other way. With Seriki now out for the season, think it’s even more important to have Burrows at left-back.
 
Wilder 1/10, picking too many favourites and never the best eleleven.
To be fair to wilder he picked the same side that played wrexham and our best game so far of the season, cant blame him for doing that and entrusting a side that got a result and a decent performance, unfortunately they let him and us down.

That said I did give wilder a low rating as in the end its his job to get them motivated and playing. He did neither, as we was 2nd to every ball, lost too many duals, slow and and well off the mark with seemingly no game plan yet again or any idea how to defend.

Wilder also is at fault as to why we we have gone into the season with just 2 wingers, which 1 isnt good enough to start for a top 10 chamionship club and 4 strikers that are slow either slow, lazy or a combination of both. We also gone into season With unfit slow centeral midfield and 1 fit right back (at the time). Anyway ive gone off on a bit of a tangent there.
 
And for the love of God please play 3 midfielders. Every loose ball dropped to them in the middle of the papark.
He has an unhealthy obsession with 442 and an ego that he has to be right. The more we ask for 433 which is screamingly obvious the more he will dig his heels in and not do it.
 
I’d go as far as saying yesterday was the most disappointing game of the season so far. Finally on a decent run of form and looking up, playing better, things clicking. And what we are served up at a team fighting the drop, no wins in 11, lost four in a row, is a performance totally lacking in Ideas and physicality. It’s such a huge step back and places the entire period of form under question for me.
Thing is, Wilder states he has trust in this group now that he didnt have last season and they dont need coaching. He surely cant believe that himself when yesterday happens for approx 45 mins every game?

That wasnt a bad Blades performance, it was a this Blades performance.
 
That was an exhausting watch Deaders and it's even left this old sod just too tired to really give much of a fuck anymore. All I'll say is I'd give Burrows a 1/10 because his defending was abysmal. I'm in my 60's and I was screaming at him to cover the outside when they're winger got the ball. He dropped the shoulder twice and beat Burrows both times. I knew what he was going to do, why didn't he? Unforgivable but Wilder loves him so what does it matter, jobs for the boys with this prick even though McCallum is twice the player Burrows is.
Brereton Diaz is a 1/10, I started docking him a point every time he mis controlled the ball and as you don't do negative numbers I stopped at 1.

Wilder 1/10, picking too many favourites and never the best eleven.
I have to agree with the defending but it's the same both sides ,Seriki is awful an defender , excellent going forward ,we don't stop the cross ,same last season or they let them come inside to curl one in the top corner.Baldock and Stephens were so much better at defending crosses ,I would have thought it was a basic requirement of a full back ?
Choudhury is actually better at stopping crossing but often gets caught out of position,I do think the back four do not do the basics,look when we clear the ball , nearly every time it's to an opposition player.
 
After praising the pressing and fitness against Wrexham it seems to have fallen off a cliff the last 2 games. 3 games in a week syndrome was clearly in the minds of the players and the manager as he mentioned it post match. Out run out thought and out battled second half failing the minimum requirements.

Then we have the tactical ineptitude. If we're worried about fitness why are two subs being brought on with a few minutes left. Formation obsession continues. It was obvious we had lost the middle of the park so why not go with three when Arblaster and Reidewald are on the bench?

Away from home against a team up for it McCallum is the ideal player to bring on to win aerial duels with the added advantage of his long throw. Burrows was having a defensive shocker stays on and inexplicably receives praise from the manager post match. Too many favourites being preferred unfortunately.

The worst performance of the season imo eclipsing the dire first 45 minutes against Derby. CW says the players werent on it. Is he capable of explaining why? because it happens all too often. Maybe it was its game 3 lads this week just got to get through to the international break and we can all have a rest!

A final thought for Seriki. One of only two players that I look forward to watching Donovan being the other. A career threatening injury placing a key assest on the sidelines for a year. Without him we lose our attacking threat down the right. The owners must ensure his contract postion is protected whilst he is out.
 
A hugely disappointing way to finish before the international break. After an improvement in results, and performances, today was a big step back. Not sure there was anything positive to take at all from today. Ayew did ok and got his first goal and Donovan was lively throughout but overall, we never got going. Charlton were not exactly great but fought hard today and in the end, they just shaded a poor game. The goals were horrific. The first saw us lose several 50-50 challenges and then we let an uncontested shot come in. Cooper has to better and lets it in, on his near post. They could have had a second but their lad made a mess of a free finish after more defending where we stood off.



We found a way back as Ayew headed in after a rebound biuncdd his way and you thought we might settle down but it never happened. We created little, did not win midfield and Charlton won too many loose balls. Not sure we ever had control of the game. Charlton had not won in 11 but gained confidence from a Blades side who did not assert themselves, individually, or collectively. Half time and we took off the dreadful Choudhury, but disaster struck when Seriki picked up a really serious injury (that turns out to be season ending). We still never really threatened but neither did they. Seemed to be drifting to a 1-1 stalemate but then Burrows stands off, the cross comes in and nobody reacts. Gooden finishes and we are behind. Peck had a late chance but we did not deserve anything.



It was a timid performance, where we did not battle, win the ugly stuff but played little football of note. We created very little. It was back to the performances of a few weeks ago, where we had no clear game plan at all. Charlton are a side that have plummeted like a stone and Jones was under pressure but they simply fought a bit and we offered no resistance. We have so many physically weak players who lack drive and urgency. It is a nothing set of men who will probably do just enough to stay away from trouble but are miles off a side that will be anywhere near the top 8. We have played some dire sides recently and today was one we needed to get something from but got nothing, deservedly. Throw in losing a key man and it’s been a really bad day.

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Cooper 4/10 – Praised him a lot this season but he has to do better on the first goal. It goes in near post, way too easily. After this did not have loads to do. The 2nd goal, was down to others rather than him.



Choudhury 3/10 – Thought he was our weakest player first half as they came down this side routinely. Out of position constantly and so slow to react to situations. He was poor on the ball too. Thankfully hauled off at HT.



Burrows 4/10 – First goal he is nowhere to be seen as his winger smashes a shot in. Second goal, he backs off, does not engage and then fails to stop the cross. He struggled defensively but had a few moves going forward, including one surging run and shot blocked. Major question marks on the winner though.



Tanganga 4/10 – Another nothing sort of game. Not sure we particularly dominated in any area of the field. He was sloppy in possession and did not really win many tackles/headers. Winner, the whole defence is so slow to react.



Kitching 5/10 – Best defender but that is not saying much. Even he was just average. Won a few tackles and interceptions and tried to carry it out.



Phillips 4/10 – Poorest game he has had for a while. He looked off the pace & never really got on the ball. I was really disappointed with the whole midfield today as against a poor side, we never had any control at all. He had one free kick saved but nothing else really that effective.



Peck 4/10 – As above. Game just passed him by but we never really went through midfield at all. They just lived off scraps but both needed to do much more. They should dominate against such a poor side but did not do that. One late shot saved.



Donovan 6.5/10 – Our best player by some distance. He looked to get on the ball, try and drive at players and was always positive. Not everything came off but he kept trying to find a moment. Needed more help but did not get it



Chong 3.5/10 – Thought our right side was atrocious again. Weak, out of position and offered nothing going forward. He constantly looked to go inside but no end product. A lot of meek challenges and no end product. One shot at the keeper apart, he offered next to nothing.



Brereton Diaz 4/10 – An ineffectual game where he looked sluggish and cannot recall a shot/cross/assist. He looked off the pace and never really affected the game. Kept looking at the bench, perhaps looking for his number, that is how tired he looked.



Ayew 6/10 – Reacted to score from the rebound and generally looked the most lively and dangerous attacker, but again a low bar. He at least had a few touches, bits of link play but we created very little really all game.



Subs –



Serki – Not sure he touched the ball and then suffers an awful injury. We lose him for the season now. I know this is a freak injury and can happen to anyone, but he does seem very injury prone sadly. Rarely does he go a few months without an injury of some sort. Will be missed though as Choudhury has really struggled. No idea why Doherty is here though, if he still does not play?



McGuinness 4/10 – Usual mix of clumsy pieces of play with weak headed attempts. He was put up top for the end but won nothing. Seems to shrink in chalkenges. So weak for a big guy.



Cannon 3/10 – Did nothing positive and got shrugged off too easily. So weak and lacks pace/strength to really contribute anything.



Arblaster – A few threaded passes but a few giveaways too.



Campbell – Came on too late for me. No real chance to get in the game.



Manager Rating: Wilder 3/10 – Timid showing. Slow to start and then even when back in the game, did not push on. 2nd half was a nothing performance. Did not even try and win the game. Got what we deserved. A worry that even Nathan Jones seemed to have more tactical ideas.



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Charlton – Somehow did the double over us last season – make it three now. Last season stayed up with a few games to spare – mainly due to the shocking quality of the sides in the division but credit Jones for keeping them up first season. He is an obnoxious and irritating little man but does seem to get the most out of a poor squad and you cannot say he does not give it all – but like Holloway and a few others – all seems a bit performative his antics/gimmicks. They started quite well and had some surprise win but have tumbled like a stone in the last weeks and are now back down near where I expected them to be. I like some of the recruitment actually (Alli and Grant did well at this level for Pompey and WBA) and already had a decent mix of experience so I thought they may just have enough to stay away from the bottom three but have regressed badly and now seem in a bit of a rut. I like the look of Tyrese Campbell (their one!) but seems rather in and out. Kelman pops up with the odd goal but I have reservations about some quite agricultural defenders and have added a suspect keeper, Okonkwo, from Wrexham, who has now been dropped.



Today, they scored a good individual first goal, then recovered after conceding an equaliser and in the end did just enough to get a much needed win. They did battle and fight but had little quality but found the moments they needed to win. Will have been surprised how little we offered really.







Opposition player of the match – Alli scored a really good goal and was a threat, as was Campbell, on the other side. They had far better wide threats.



Opposition weak link – The defence was not really tested but Bindon was poor. Had a number booked and skirted close to the edge.





Referee – Booked a fair number of the Charlton players rightly for some cynical challenges. Not sure why the Charlton fans were so annoyed with him? Certainly his performance did not affect any major decisions/ result.



Day out - Rare away day for me. My lad got on at Derby from Uni and 7 of us (Roy, Bladespod, Travelling Blade etc) went down meeting a few fown there including Phil (Carrier Bag), Jon (4 Blades) and Sam (Pinch). Bit of a crawl round Greenwich and then Deptford post game. Like a number of away days. Good day spoilt by the football!
Kitching was at fault for second goal as well as Burrows. He is grossly overrated in my opinion. His judgement on when to attack the ball and when to stay back is really poor. We still haven't got an aerially dominant centre half. Its incredible really.
 
Yeah you are right. Seen it back and he does not react to Gooden at all. He has been ok but nothing more. I have not got the fuss over him, others have made. We are conceding so many soft goals centrally and its not always Tanganga's fault. I wouldn't sign him permanently. Still think we need 2 new CBs and a right back, a centre forward, a right winger and so on!
 
After praising the pressing and fitness against Wrexham it seems to have fallen off a cliff the last 2 games. 3 games in a week syndrome was clearly in the minds of the players and the manager as he mentioned it post match. Out run out thought and out battled second half failing the minimum requirements.

Then we have the tactical ineptitude. If we're worried about fitness why are two subs being brought on with a few minutes left. Formation obsession continues. It was obvious we had lost the middle of the park so why not go with three when Arblaster and Reidewald are on the bench?

Away from home against a team up for it McCallum is the ideal player to bring on to win aerial duels with the added advantage of his long throw. Burrows was having a defensive shocker stays on and inexplicably receives praise from the manager post match. Too many favourites being preferred unfortunately.

The worst performance of the season imo eclipsing the dire first 45 minutes against Derby. CW says the players werent on it. Is he capable of explaining why? because it happens all too often. Maybe it was its game 3 lads this week just got to get through to the international break and we can all have a rest!

A final thought for Seriki. One of only two players that I look forward to watching Donovan being the other. A career threatening injury placing a key assest on the sidelines for a year. Without him we lose our attacking threat down the right. The owners must ensure his contract postion is protected whilst he is out.
Absolutely spot on. Any footballing layman can see it every week. How are the other coaches not spotting it? What are they there for if they aren't seeing the obvious? Any worthwhile pundit could tell you United's deficiencies after just one game.
 
Firstly thoughts with Seriki. That is an awful injury. I severed my Patella tendon in a car crash many years ago and it took a few months to just be able to walk comfortably again never mind getting up to elite sports levels.

Only seen the highlights and the agree the goals were poor to concede. We almost appear to be quite happy to let teams put crosses into the box rather than get a block in. The result didn't surprise me as nearly all our games against poor teams can go either way and usually have only one goal separating the them. Yes teams like Charlton, Preston etc. are poor but are we any better. Tell me one game this season where we have looked comfortably the better side. Wrexham perhaps, Lincoln second half, after that I am struggling. Some of the players are consistently poor. Chong, Choudury, Diaz, Cannon even on a rare good day are average at best but the problem is who replaces them. The manager is not helping matters by other than the odd diversion now and again sticking to the same 4 4 2 tactics week in week out which rarely gives us any real control in games. Surely he has to try a formation at some point that gets 3 in midfield so we can try and build attacks rather than the long hoof for which we do not have any strikers suitable to.
 



Just can’t agree with that. I like McCallum but I’m not convinced had he started yesterday that either of those goals are prevented, and a large part of us looking better in possession in recent games has come from actually having one of the full backs be comfortable with the ball. McCallum isn’t some sort of cross-blocking machine, he is a better all-round defender (particularly aerially), but we lose a lot in possession when he sees a lot of the ball in my opinion – his contribution to the opener vs Lincoln stood out as a rare plus on that front. In McCallum’s last start vs Pompey he was poor defensively and worse the other way. With Seriki now out for the season, think it’s even more important to have Burrows at left-back.
You gotta be joking Burrows had neshed out of two 50/50's before falling on has arse to let their player cross for the winner. He is a hopeless defender and not much better going the other way always stops and passes back when confronted by a defender he never takes a man on. League one is his level.
 

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