Charlie Webster on Chris Wilder

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Most clubs would have severed all ties with him on the day he was convicted. We should have done the same. Yet another monumental misjudgement by our former leader.

In hindsight yes and I came to the same conclusion a few months before his release.

That said there was near silence when we signed Marlon King less than a year earlier.
 



Why didn't Webster resign and go on TV when we signed convicted sex offenders and woman beater Marlon King?

King even scored directly underneath the Ennis stand (what an embarrassment that was) yet there was silence from Ennis.

Heaton et al also said/did nothing about Marlon King signing but kicked up a fuss about Evans and tried to milk publicity.

Sean Bean acted most appropriately imho

Charlie Webster's list of people who are okay: Mike Tyson and Marlon King

Her list of those who are not okay: Ched Evans
 
In hindsight yes and I came to the same conclusion a few months before his release.

That said there was near silence when we signed Marlon King less than a year earlier.
That’s because he wasn’t high profile and the media weren’t all over it. Personally, I stopped going. It was certainly discussed in depth on BM, as you well know.
 
That’s because he wasn’t high profile and the media weren’t all over it. Personally, I stopped going. It was certainly discussed in depth on BM, as you well know.

Agreed, not looking for an argument but it's interesting.

Marlon King was a more successful and better player than Evans was throughout his career.

Yet the media etc. almost entirely turned a blind eye to his disgraceful past.

I wonder why that was.
 
In hindsight yes and I came to the same conclusion a few months before his release
That said there was near silence when we signed Marlon King less than a year earlier.
That last sentence is nonsense. There was a big issue with the fanbase not being happy with it, but because it didn’t get the media profile no one outside of our fans cared. I can remember commenting on endless threads on it.

I wonder why that was.
Oh go on, enlighten us?
Was it because we weren’t in a league that anyone gave a shit about and it didn’t have the profile?
Was it the same reason you can’t remember any fuss?
 
Agreed, not looking for an argument but it's interesting.

Marlon King was a more successful and better player than Evans was throughout his career.

Yet the media etc. almost entirely turned a blind eye to his disgraceful past.

I wonder why that was.

Whatever can you mean? Maybe it was the same reason convicted rapist and (at the time) Blackpool owner Owen Oyston was given a free ride.
 
It says alot about the people going after them that only the female people who spoke out about the club signing someone who at the time was a convicted rapist and not the men who did the same.

She was 100% in the right. A real low moment for the club.

Luckily we've moved past that whole sordid affair no matter how much some people cling onto it and STILL send vile shit to the likes of her and Jess Ennis.

Completely agree. You just have to look at any of the replies to anything Webster says on United to see the number of people triggered into responding with abuse. I had no problem with her actions at the time, it was a stance on principle that wasn’t taken lightly as she’d have known that it would have sparked an ongoing response from the Ched Fanclub.

Paul Heaton, who took the exact same response at the time he resigned as patron of the Community Foundation, in contrast receives virtually no vitriol from fans. He’s allowed to continue being a fan without attracting the ill will, and Webster should be treated the same way frankly.
 
Completely agree. You just have to look at any of the replies to anything Webster says on United to see the number of people triggered into responding with abuse. I had no problem with her actions at the time, it was a stance on principle that wasn’t taken lightly as she’d have known that it would have sparked an ongoing response from the Ched Fanclub.

Paul Heaton, who took the exact same response at the time he resigned as patron of the Community Foundation, in contrast receives virtually no vitriol from fans. He’s allowed to continue being a fan without attracting the ill will, and Webster should be treated the same way frankly.
I was very anti resigning Evans or having anything to do with him. Do I have to turn my Season Ticket in now as I didn’t support a convicted rapist who acted in an incredibly unprofessional manner and ultimately cost us promotion to our city rivals?
Edit : Not aimed at you LoughboroBlade.
 
I was very anti resigning Evans or having anything to do with him. Do I have to turn my Season Ticket in now as I didn’t support a convicted rapist who acted in an incredibly unprofessional manner and ultimately cost us promotion to our city rivals?

The Forever Ched brigade will hunt you down and prize that season ticket from your unsupportive hands.
 
That last sentence is nonsense. There was a big issue with the fanbase not being happy with it, but because it didn’t get the media profile no one outside of our fans cared. I can remember commenting on endless threads on it.


Oh go on, enlighten us?
Was it because we weren’t in a league that anyone gave a shit about and it didn’t have the profile?
Was it the same reason you can’t remember any fuss?

I wasn't happy about it either, along with probably the majority of fans.

What I find curious is why Ennis Heaton et al didn't say or do anything with King but they did with Evans.

I don't know the reason why. I also don't know why King didn't get the same profile as Evans from the media.

Perhaps someone could enlighten me xD

(off to the Brighton game meantime!)
 
I wasn't happy about it either, along with probably the majority of fans.

What I find curious is why Ennis Heaton et al didn't say or do anything with King but they did with Evans.

I don't know the reason why. I also don't know why King didn't get the same profile as Evans from the media.

Perhaps someone could enlighten me xD

(off to the Brighton game meantime!)
I’ve told you, I think it’s because we were in league one and no one gave a shit. it also didn’t have the media profile of Evans trial while the club was dragged through the mud and then still brought him back. Was Ennis linked with the club when we signed King, was she asked, was Heaton? I’d suggest not.
However you were clearly insinuating something else, yet you don’t seem to want to clarify. Will you now do so, or were you being a twat?
 



Why didn't Webster resign and go on TV when we signed convicted sex offenders and woman beater Marlon King?

King even scored directly underneath the Ennis stand (what an embarrassment that was) yet there was silence from Ennis.

Heaton et al also said/did nothing about Marlon King signing but kicked up a fuss about Evans and tried to milk publicity.

Sean Bean acted most appropriately imho
Exactly! I made my complaint to the club about Marlon King when he was signed
 
Of course she was entitled to her own view on Ched and should not be vilified for it, but it's a shame she wasn't more supportive of our club. The national media launched a witch hunt of a man who turned out to be innocent, so to see our own 'fans' chucking the club under the bus really pissed me off.

No bilious views from me, but I note with interest she is now a big fan again.

Nuff said.

He didn't "turn out to be innocent." It turned out that there wasn't enough evidence to justify the guilty verdict he had received. There was "reasonable doubt."

His behaviour was still pretty deplorable, & like Charlie, I also wasn't particularly keen on re-signing him on that basis alone.
 
He didn't "turn out to be innocent." It turned out that there wasn't enough evidence to justify a guilty verdict. His behaviour was still pretty deplorable & I also wasn't particularly keen on re-signing him on that basis alone (even before the obvious lack of footballing arguments).
And aren't you innocent until proven guilty then?
 
And aren't you innocent until proven guilty then?

That there is insufficient evidence to prove guilt, does not necessarily mean somebody is innocent.

I'm not saying that Ched is innocent, or guilty. But the events of that night were not great & there is a lot of doubt in my mind as to whether he was innocent, or guilty. For that reason I don't like to definitively declare him as either.

Just that, on the facts that are known, he acted poorly & let a lot of people down.
 
Very strange that Charlie Webster wants to be associated with Sheffield United now we are enjoying a bit of success which is putting us in the limelight, I wonder if she is a bit skint and looking to raise her profile like she did when the Ched saga was in full swing. The slag can fuck off as far as I'm concerned, fucking D list celebs eh :rolleyes:
 
Very strange that Charlie Webster wants to be associated with Sheffield United now we are enjoying a bit of success which is putting us in the limelight, I wonder if she is a bit skint and looking to raise her profile like she did when the Ched saga was in full swing. The slag can fuck off as far as I'm concerned, fucking D list celebs eh :rolleyes:
Slag? Really? Based on anything in particular Mb?
 
That there is insufficient evidence to prove guilt, does not necessarily mean somebody is innocent.

I'm not saying that Ched is innocent, or guilty. But the events of that night were not great & there is a lot of doubt in my mind as to whether he was innocent, or guilty. For that reason I don't like to definitively declare him as either.

Just that, on the facts that are known, he acted poorly & let a lot of people down.
Yeah, but if someone is not proven to be guilty, there has to be a presumption of innocence, surely. That's how UK law works.

Otherwise I could just say that you're not innocent of mass murder. Would that sit right with you?
 
Dunno about Charlie Webster on Wilder but I wouldn't mind her on me
 



Why didn't Webster resign and go on TV when we signed convicted sex offenders and woman beater Marlon King?

King even scored directly underneath the Ennis stand (what an embarrassment that was) yet there was silence from Ennis.

Heaton et al also said/did nothing about Marlon King signing but kicked up a fuss about Evans and tried to milk publicity.

Sean Bean acted most appropriately imho
Agree 100%
 

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