Carver Out

[norfolkblade]

I'm with Olle on this one, we need a radical overhaul in terms of management, someone with some brand new ideas completely unrelated to any previous regimes to really freshen us up, for me, Carver is not that man, which is why I'd prefer SO'D or Adams.

 

[Paulus]

Complete and utter lack of ambition, massive step backwards and school boy error. Have you, McCabe and the restof the fans not learnt anything from the Blackwell appointment? Giving Carver the job based on 4 games would be nothing short of criminal. Typical Blades fans attitude, oh 5th choice ... til be reit. Carver is not ready for the job and should not be appointed for long than a caretaker period of a few games. Giving him a longer contract would be short sighted, unambtious and outrright stupid. Right now the pressure is off (as it was with KB after he came in for Robson) but it would be a completely different kettle of fish if he was given the job longer. Right now he has nothing to lose, but that would change if appointed longer. I still can't believe that after the last few seasons, Blades fans would still be happy with another poor appointment. Ah yeah, a risk, mediocrity, oh but he won 3 of his 4 games in charge as a caretaker.

We need a manager with experience. A manager who will change the ethos of the club. A manager wo can wheel and deal on a shoe string. A manager who has a vision for the club. Some Blades fans make me want to cry with their complete lack of ambition and apathy towards big decisions.

The issue you seem to be ignoring Ollie is that, as me dear old mum used to say "life is what happens when you are busy making plans for the future" All I was pointing out was that the way the timing has fallen with the manager search leaves Carver in post and that changes the odds of his getting the job. The problem that the board has to balance is the short term risk involved in bringing in a new man against the longer term benefits such an appointment may bring and I don't think its quite so black and white as you are suggesting.

Any new appointment will need time to settle into the job and yet the settling in period will be against the transfer deadline and the strong possibility of extremely disrupted training and lack of matches due to the weather. I would suggest that this increases the chances of poor decisions being made by a new man. Carver has the distinct advantage that he knows the players and doubtless has his own ideas already formed as to what needs to be done. The reality is no-one on here knows what Carver would bring to the job or what his team might play like but the players seem prepared to work for him and the Board must trust him and you should never underestimate the importance of the human side of any team and secondly if things are going well be bloody clear you know what you are doing before you change it.

 

[DuncDisorderly]

Expectations? I didn't think they were allowed in your world. You just turn up, watch the game, talk about facts only and come back in 2 weeks time. Lovely. I don't even know why you are bothered really about all this manager speculation.

Thats a stupid statement, of course there are always expectations. The supporters have expectations but they are often unrealistic, irrational, or simplistic and ill informed, failing to take account of all the realities of running a real football club (of which we supporters are largely ignorant).

The board will also have expectations and this is the only bit that really matters. They will be communicated and discussed with the manager, and the manager will communicate a plan as to how those expectations are to be met. The board will judge the manager on his delivery of the plan. Both the expectations of the board and the managers plan of actions should be realistic and balanced, because they have to be achieved. But they will also be flexible and updated constantly. This is because unlike us supporters, they actually have to do it in real life, making the best of what life presents to them. This is how professional business work.

Yes I turn up and watch the game and do it again 2 weeks later. Its called being a supporter.

No I'm not bothered, its not my decision to make and I'm happy to leave it to the club. I can't for the life of me see why you lot are whipping yourselves into a frenzy about it. The process has been outlined by Birchy. It is considerably more professional than the last two managerial appointments, and whoever they decide is the right guy through that process, then that is that.

Anyway Merry Christmas Mic, and UTB...

 

[Ollessendro]

Perfectic you say, I don't know quite what to make of that.

Pomposity needs pricking and I just can't stop myself. It's different with len, it's you that keeps comparing yourself with him, not me.

Keep it coming Trig. It amuses me.

This comparison with Len is just a figment of your over active imagination. I have to say that the admiration you show for him is a little embarassing. I can only hope that if I keep dropping my pearls of wisdom I will eventually charm you and will be held in the same affection as what Len is.

I'm with Olle on this one

More and more people saying this these days (even Brownie - who created the monster that was the sunshine band - agreed with me recently). Trig, take note

The issue you seem to be ignoring Ollie is that, as me dear old mum used to say "life is what happens when you are busy making plans for the future" All I was pointing out was that the way the timing has fallen with the manager search leaves Carver in post and that changes the odds of his getting the job. The problem that the board has to balance is the short term risk involved in bringing in a new man against the longer term benefits such an appointment may bring and I don't think its quite so black and white as you are suggesting.

Any new appointment will need time to settle into the job and yet the settling in period will be against the transfer deadline and the strong possibility of extremely disrupted training and lack of matches due to the weather. I would suggest that this increases the chances of poor decisions being made by a new man. Carver has the distinct advantage that he knows the players and doubtless has his own ideas already formed as to what needs to be done. The reality is no-one on here knows what Carver would bring to the job or what his team might play like but the players seem prepared to work for him and the Board must trust him and you should never underestimate the importance of the human side of any team and secondly if things are going well be bloody clear you know what you are doing before you change it.

Dress it up hoever you want mate. I struggled to read that althoguh there was some sense in there. My stance is that it doesn't matter how well Carver does, the job is not for him. He should not even be on the list. This shortlist of 6 should be cut to 3 staright away. The list (imo) should be: 1) SOD, 2) Adams and 3) Howe. I'd be (relatively) happy with any of those (though diminsihing levels from 1 to 3). Simple.