"Carruthers is a top player"- Robinson.

[Woodwardfan]

Karl Robinson was hoping to get Carruthers for Holmes. " if anybody signs him they will get a top player who can play central, No.10, left wide or right wide"

Something else I read today was a quote from Moen Alli " The harder I tried the worse it got"

 

[HillmortonBlade]

Karl Robinson was hoping to get Carruthers for Holmes. " if anybody signs him they will get a top player who can play central, No.10, left wide or right wide"

Something else I read today was a quote from Moen Alli " The harder I tried the worse it got"

Perhaps Robinson feels he can get the best from Carruthers, in much the same way as Wilder does with so many others (of not quite yet with this one yet)

 

[Ricky]

Carruthers is a top player in L1, unquestionably.

 

[Woodwardfan]

Carruthers played in a L1 prmotion side and a season in the Championship for Robinson.

 

[SwissBlade]

He's never been able to get a run in the side for us and i don't think he now has a position in the way we play.

 

[Davalon]

Thought Carrurhers was a good signing at the time but he rarely impressed me too much last season

 

[The Crab]

Carruthers played in a L1 prmotion side and a season in the Championship for Robinson.

Maybe Robinson knows how to get the best out of him, a bit like the situation with Wilder / Coutts I guess.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

He's never been able to get a run in the side for us and i don't think he now has a position in the way we play.

Totally agree. If we played with a 3 man midfield then he'd the midfielder with licence to bomb forward and get in the box.

But we don't, and our midfield two need to be disciplined as it's their responsibility to tuck in when the WBs overlap. Carruthers is intergalactically bad at that!!

 

[Ricky]

I think his best position is actually deeper in midfield, where he can dribble into space and set attacks going. He lacks the end product and intelligence for a more advanced position, at least at Championship level.

 

[Houso]

I really like Carruthers, but something is just not clicking this season.

It certainly doesn't help that he's often brought on as sub when we're on our arse and he has to chase the game. Which leads to errors. Which leads to him trying harder. And so on... and so on.

Ultimately, he needs a change in scenery and I think it will be of benefit to both us and the player.

 

[SwissBlade]

I think his best position is actually deeper in midfield, where he can dribble into space and set attacks going. He lacks the end product and intelligence for a more advanced position, at least at Championship level.

This is where i saw him playing, being the replacement for Fleck if he were injured, but given the way Samir has performed, i just don't think he'll get enough of a run to get up to speed.

 

[Slim Man]

He's been very poor all season, even when he had a run in the team at the beginning of the season. He's decent at running with the ball but half of the time ends up losing it so there's no positive outcome of it. Tries to do it on his own far too often and ends up looking like a headless chicken. He's got absolutely no end product.

Very good league one player but he'll never make the step up whilever he's got a hole in his arse.
Fat Karl would be getting a good player for their current situation if he signed Carruthers and he knows it.

 

[Blade56]

I don't get the obsession with all these tactical formations. I prefer muddy pitches not Dresso and bootin ball as 'ard as yer can then 9 men chasin it darn screamin. That'd be entertaining

 

[PokerBlade]

Not a player I want to start having a go at. He comes on and he tries his hardest to make things happen and I don't want to discourage our players from trying to beat a man or playing the killer ball but for Carruthers it rarely seems to pay off. Was an okay signing at the time, it's not working out and whether that's tactics or the player's limitations doesn't really matter, there probably isn't a place for him going forward.

 

[Boxer Blade]

I think we sometimes think a bit to deep into these things, another club under a different manager bit of luck and suddenly he looks a very good player, couple of years later plays in the championship, it happens all time

 

[Fanny magnet]

Totally agree. If we played with a 3 man midfield then he'd the midfielder with licence to bomb forward and get in the box.

But we don't, and our midfield two need to be disciplined as it's their responsibility to tuck in when the WBs overlap. Carruthers is intergalactically bad at that!!

We do play with a 3 man midfield
Always have under wilder

 

[Sheffsteel]

Football is a simple game.

A midfielder like Paul Coutts was underwhelming at Derby and underwhelming in his early career here too.
Coutts doesn’t do much eye catching but he was (like Gordon Cowans in the 90’s) like a passing machine with metronome accuracy.
Always available for the ball. Has the intelligence/ class knowing when to play a simple short pass and when to try something more difficult. The thing with Coutts and Cowans is their style is more understated, so they need good players around them.

It’s a shame because I still think Carruthers is our most talented midfielder but plays like a spoilt kid.
He keeps hold of the ball too long, it’s as though he tries too hard to impress, so tries taking men on when a simple pass is the better option. His decision making/ intelligence is poor and he tends to be more of an individualist than a team player.

I also believe Carruthers might have a bit of the “flat track bully” syndrome in him.
Put him in a league 2 team and he’ll play like Maradona taking the pi$$ with opposition league 2 players
Put him in league 1 and again he’ll look impressive, with his tricks and flicks
But play him in the Championship and it’s a step too far, his confidence takes a hit and he really struggles to deliver.

Let’s remember Carruthers is still young so it’s possible he could fulfil his big potential.
Robinson knows full well how talented Carruthers is, he’s potentially one of the best midfielders in league 1
But at the moment my discription of Carruthers is “flatters to deceive, looks good but little end product”.

 

[Davalon]

I don't get the obsession with all these tactical formations. I prefer muddy pitches not Dresso and bootin ball as 'ard as yer can then 9 men chasin it darn screamin. That'd be entertaining

Best way to play whatever the self proclaimed experts on here tell you.

Sideways, sideways, back, sideways, sideways, back...ad infinitum zzz

 

[Sean Thornton]

Is Moen Alli Dele's brother?

 

[Trafford]

Wonder why he hasn't joined them then?

 

[Woodwardfan]

Wonder why he hasn't joined them then?

Resources at the club the new Wendy CEO has just left.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

I think his best position is actually deeper in midfield, where he can dribble into space and set attacks going. He lacks the end product and intelligence for a more advanced position, at least at Championship level.

I agree, the only difference being that Samir would back himself to have the 10 role. He just hasn't been good enough yet this season. He's not dynamic and productive enough for the 10 role and is behind Coutts, Fleck and Lundstram (and now Leonard) in the pecking order/having the composure for the deeper role.

That said, I'm not sure even he knows his own best position. He's lively, but not a wide player and I certainly wouldn't trust him to knuckle down for the discipline needed for a midfield of two centre mids either.

I'd like him to improve with us but I'm not sure where he fits currently. Also, and this may be reading too much into it, I've noticed he's one of the only United players to seemingly moan at others over misplaced passes or at not finding him with a pass etc. You'll notice not too many others in our squad show that trait so mebbes Wilder think he isn't quite slotting into our squad harmony.

 

[Deleted member 875]

To be perfectly honest the sooner we bin Carruthers off the better.

I’m yet to see what all the fuss about him was, he isn’t a 90 minute player, doesn’t seem to be a team player, as he goes missing for large chunks of the game, he doesn’t seem to make much impact off the bench, and can only think of a one occasion where he has had an impact off the bench he is full of fancy tricks, I will give him that but absolutely very little in the way of end product.

I made my mind up about him at Preston where he was given his chance to shine, and he was absolutely fucking abysmal. I can’t see him improving any time soon, and hopefully these new signings will hasten his departure

 

[BalancedBlade]

I think Carruthers could be a cracking player in the championship, just not in our side.
Lads got loads of talent and skill but lacks positional discipline. Needs a free role to be at his best IMO

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

To be perfectly honest the sooner we bin Carruthers off the better.

I’m yet to see what all the fuss about him was, he isn’t a 90 minute player, doesn’t seem to be a team player, as he goes missing for large chunks of the game, he doesn’t seem to make much impact off the bench, and can only think of a one occasion where he has had an impact off the bench he is full of fancy tricks, I will give him that but absolutely very little in the way of end product.

I made my mind up about him at Preston where he was given his chance to shine, and he was absolutely fucking abysmal. I can’t see him improving any time soon, and hopefully these new signings will hasten his departure

Yep, Preston was the game which truly exposed him.

 

[Adiroy]

First few games he appeared in i could totally see why we brought him in, he was tricky, quick with the ball at his feet and could find a pass.. But for some reason over time its just not really worked out.. wether its his attitude, effort or just gone down the pecking order who knows?!

Like someones already said, might be best for both the club and the player to part company.. will we miss him? Doubt it.

Although i have no doubt that he helped in bringing baldock over!

 

[Ricky]

At Preston he had to play in a midfield with Basham and Lundstram in a team that couldn't put 5 passes together. They were all shit yet he cops for it most...

 

[Chali 2na]

I think Carruthers (and players like him) will always draw more criticism, as it's his responsibility to try things and gamble.

Unfortunately, be it bad luck, him not being ready for this level, or a combination of the two; he's not been the player we hoped he would be and moving him on probably suits all parties.

Definitely had some good attributes, I wouldn't write off the chances of him returning to the championship with someone else .

 

[mancunianblade]

I don't get the obsession with all these tactical formations. I prefer muddy pitches not Dresso and bootin ball as 'ard as yer can then 9 men chasin it darn screamin. That'd be entertaining

Also be cheaper

 

[Grappler]

At Preston he had to play in a midfield with Basham and Lundstram in a team that couldn't put 5 passes together. They were all shit yet he cops for it most...

Agree, no one really came out of the Preston game smelling of roses.

Couldn't find a decent pint all night as well.