"Careful what you wish for"

[ThatJa]

..... very true.

MOST wanted Prince out because he couldn't take us to the next level, wasn't able to fund us etc...

Would we be in this position if Prince was owner still? Probably not if you base it on his porevious 3-4 years as owner (yoyo)

Would he have sacked Wilder a 2nd time? Probably not

Would he have appointed Selles? Almost certainly not.

As a fan base, we got what we wished for, when we said Prince could not fund it, and now its backfiring.

 

[Maurice Maurice]

I quite openly and consistently said that the Prince was the best thing that happened to Sheffield United in years. Turned us into a well run business, stopped giving our players away and understood the importance of the football club to the fans. You might get the usual suspects on gobbing off but they're the cocks that will now be whining like fucking babies trying to get their all conquering hero back.

 

[deplorable]

The ownership was making him ill and he was quite open himself that he couldn't personally afford to run the club and wanted/needed to sell it, so not sure that it is of anybody's doing that he is now a fan only, other than himself?

 

[Willglynning]

Whilst I can understand frustration with the current ownership, this is some very selective memory in action.

We can talk about the great times having one brilliant season in the premier league- but the Prince was, for the last few years of his tenure, an absent owner who didn't want to be here anymore.

It was his ownership that saw players contracts running down and losing multiple players for nothing; or selling key players at comparatively cheap prices due to their contract status- to divisional rivals or with no time to replace them (Berge & Ndiaye).

We've been under transfer embargos and have even received points deductions due to his inability to run this club legitmately. As much as you can look at that first premier league season with fondness, as a club we've not really progressed on or off the field during his solo tenure compared to where we were after McCabe was ousted (i.e. the start of the 19/20 season).

Yes; we held out on selling players more so than we had done under McCabe- but the club was at real risk of financial ruin had Heckingbottom not gotten us promoted.

 

[Silky Sabella]

..... very true.

MOST wanted Prince out because he couldn't take us to the next level, wasn't able to fund us etc...

Would we be in this position if Prince was owner still? Probably not if you base it on his porevious 3-4 years as owner (yoyo)

Would he have sacked Wilder a 2nd time? Probably not

Would he have appointed Selles? Almost certainly not.

As a fan base, we got what we wished for, when we said Prince could not fund it, and now its backfiring.

Would much rather have these owners anyday than the arrogance of the tubby Saudi with his cronies

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

The ownership was making him ill and he was quite open himself that he couldn't personally afford to run the club and wanted/needed to sell it, so not sure that it is of anybody's doing that he is now a fan only, other than himself?

Heartbreaking, if true.

 

[Bladeinleeds]

It’s not binary though is it.

I like the prince as an owner but he didn’t have a pot to piss In reality. We were undercooked in most seasons - the PL season under hecky was truly the most embarrassing attempt at staying up I’ve ever seen because he couldn’t find the cash.

We were unable to use the PL windfalls to strengthen for the long term because he couldn’t fund us in the way most owners can.

Not saying these new guys are any good. But there’s certainly a happy medium to be had.

 

[Youngand70]

Whilst I can understand frustration with the current ownership, this is some very selective memory in action.

We can talk about the great times having one brilliant season in the premier league- but the Prince was, for the last few years of his tenure, an absent owner who didn't want to be here anymore.

It was his ownership that saw players contracts running down and losing multiple players for nothing; or selling key players at comparatively cheap prices due to their contract status- to divisional rivals or with no time to replace them (Berge & Ndiaye).

We've been under transfer embargos and have even received points deductions due to his inability to run this club legitmately. As much as you can look at that first premier league season with fondness, as a club we've not really progressed on or off the field during his solo tenure compared to where we were after McCabe was ousted (i.e. the start of the 19/20 season).

Yes; we held out on selling players more so than we had done under McCabe- but the club was at real risk of financial ruin had Heckingbottom not gotten us promoted.

Let's not forget he also tried to sell the club to 2 crooks also.

Oh and coming in originally as a partner with McCabe did he ever undergo any due diligence by the EFL?

He pleaded poverty but had plenty of money for the high court case and for his "vanity" project United World, including 4 clubs that contributed sweet FA to SUFC, nice to sit round the dinner table with his pals and spout off about.

An absentee owner who only turned up for the "good" times and even his daughter had to do his farewell message which was a load of bollacks.

 

[Harry's Game]

Morally I am comfortable being out of Saudi hands

 

[Youngand70]

Morally I am comfortable being out of Saudi hands

Like wise. My wife lived and worked in Saudi for several years before we met.
Wouldn't trust them as far as I can piss.

 

[bibbity bobbity boo]

I wish that Margot Robbie would sit on my face, but in true United style she would probably fart and follow through

 

[I should coco]

The ownership was making him ill and he was quite open himself that he couldn't personally afford to run the club and wanted/needed to sell it, so not sure that it is of anybody's doing that he is now a fan only, other than himself?

A very salient point. Like McCabe 12 years earlier, he couldn't fund the club, so it's a moot point as to who we'd want.

Would much rather have these owners anyday than the arrogance of the tubby Saudi with his cronies

I wasn't a fan initially, and the Berge/Ndiaye moves were a right shitshow, but I think he had a genuine interest in football.

These penny billionaires have bought the Wrexham story and are are trying to shake a double six.
No structure, no plan, just make it up as you go along. I'm pretty confident that they will prove to be our worse owners, way ahead of Woolhouse and McDonald.

 

[wak1889]

Whilst I can understand frustration with the current ownership, this is some very selective memory in action.

We can talk about the great times having one brilliant season in the premier league- but the Prince was, for the last few years of his tenure, an absent owner who didn't want to be here anymore.

It was his ownership that saw players contracts running down and losing multiple players for nothing; or selling key players at comparatively cheap prices due to their contract status- to divisional rivals or with no time to replace them (Berge & Ndiaye).

We've been under transfer embargos and have even received points deductions due to his inability to run this club legitmately. As much as you can look at that first premier league season with fondness, as a club we've not really progressed on or off the field during his solo tenure compared to where we were after McCabe was ousted (i.e. the start of the 19/20 season).

Yes; we held out on selling players more so than we had done under McCabe- but the club was at real risk of financial ruin had Heckingbottom not gotten us promoted.

Ndiaye had to be sold he was determined to sign for marseille and wouldn't sign a new contract for us and marseille were aware of the situation and were monitoring it, they played it perfectly wait until the last possible moment and put in a bid, then we were in the situation of do we sell him and face certain relegation or do we keep him and give ourselves a 5% chance of staying up knowing he will go for nothing the following year, the owners dediced the risk / reward was a no brainer and took the money, and had we kept ndiaye and refused him his dream move we may well have had an isak situation we will never know,

 

[pedro]

Would much rather have these owners anyday than the arrogance of the tubby Saudi with his cronies

How rude did you ever speak to him?
Ne really loved the club
Do you actually know the Owners COH Sports?

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Right now, I'm most concerned about the fact that we look very, very easy to beat. I can't see when the first win will come.

 

[KLF]

I was sat directly In front of the Prince at Wembley. About 3 seats away. His was emotionally invested in the club. I turned round when out goals went in. He was almost crying. This is after selling us. He was without doubt a fan. I went onto the concourse at half time and he was in there with the fans. One guy tried to buy him a pint but he said he doesn't drink. Pathetic that some on here are having a go. Complete ignorance. I saw enough to know he is a blade.

 

[TJ blade]

Let's not forget he also tried to sell the club to 2 crooks also.

Oh and coming in originally as a partner with McCabe did he ever undergo any due diligence by the EFL?

He pleaded poverty but had plenty of money for the high court case and for his "vanity" project United World, including 4 clubs that contributed sweet FA to SUFC, nice to sit round the dinner table with his pals and spout off about.

An absentee owner who only turned up for the "good" times and even his daughter had to do his farewell message which was a load of bollacks.

Which leads me to a statement what " the prince" said after he signed off the sale! His words were... i gave the new owners a bit of advice regarding some transfers, always wait while the end of the window, there you get value for money on incoming players, which makes me think, he's as much to blame for the fuck up as well as COH in this bolloxs of a window!!

 

[John Street West Terrace]

Ndiaye had to be sold he was determined to sign for marseille and wouldn't sign a new contract for us and marseille were aware of the situation and were monitoring it, they played it perfectly wait until the last possible moment and put in a bid, then we were in the situation of do we sell him and face certain relegation or do we keep him and give ourselves a 5% chance of staying up knowing he will go for nothing the following year, the owners dediced the risk / reward was a no brainer and took the money, and had we kept ndiaye and refused him his dream move we may well have had an isak situation we will never know,

Agree with you , but the only mistake the board / owner made was not putting a sell buy date on the new contract offer to Ndiaye

 

[Youngand70]

Which leads me to a statement what " the prince" said after he signed off the sale! His words were... i gave the new owners a bit of advice regarding some transfers, always wait while the end of the window, there you get value for money on incoming players, which makes me think, he's as much to blame for the fuck up as well as COH in this bolloxs of a window!!

Wouldn't be surprised if he gave them alot more crap advice the way things are going including how wonderful good old Steven is as CEO.

 

[wak1889]

Agree with you , but the only mistake the board / owner made was not putting a sell buy date on the new contract offer to Ndiaye

I understand that, but like I say We may well have had in isak situation in that respect we will never know

 

[Harry's Game]

Right now, I'm most concerned about the fact that we look very, very easy to beat. I can't see when the first win will come.

Charlton.. otherwise he’s toast.

 

[Badger Blade]

I was perfectly OK with Prince going and Wilder not being far behind him. Regardless of what's happening now, they both proved that they didn't have what it took for us to succeed during the last two seasons.

Likewise McCabe who steered us towards some of the darkest times in our recent history and Prince had to prise the club out of his hands.

I'm sure that the new owners are well intentioned in terms of wanting promotion because it's the only way they'll get a return but the approach so far is completely misguided.

For all the future players, Bulgarian football farming and apparently modern, forward thinking management, there's a time and a place for both pragmatic 1-0s and gung-ho Kevin Keegan scattergun football. We're no good at either at the moment and Selles needs a plan that works and fast, for the sake of his job and his own long term future in management.

The only tweak needed was that if we went 2-0 up was to go for a third, not shit ourselves, concede and be camped in our own box for the last 10 minutes when the game should be long put to bed.

That was what Leeds did most weeks and was what we failed to do.

 

[I should coco]

How rude did you ever speak to him?
Ne really loved the club
Do you actually know the Owners COH Sports?

Of course he hasn't met him.

He only posts negative shit, which has mainly been about Wilder so far, but he's widened his net to now include the Prince.

His name is Silky Sabella but I have my doubts about wheter he ever saw our wonderful litte Argentinian, or indeed any United players in the flesh.

 

[Nick Jansky]

I was sat directly In front of the Prince at Wembley. About 3 seats away. His was emotionally invested in the club. I turned round when out goals went in. He was almost crying. This is after selling us. He was without doubt a fan. I went onto the concourse at half time and he was in there with the fans. One guy tried to buy him a pint but he said he doesn't drink. Pathetic that some on here are having a go. Complete ignorance. I saw enough to know he is a blade.

He would also have been quite interested in the additional multi millions he would have received if we were promoted, of course. Enough to make anyone a bit emotional.

 

[I should coco]

He would also have been quite interested in the additional multi millions he would have received if we were promoted, of course. Enough to make anyone a bit emotional.

A valid point, but he didn't have to be there, did he? He could have watched it in Saudi, with no need to mix with the great unwashed.

I'm not his biggest fan, but I think he did a 'fair to middling' job, whiich is more than can be said of these clowns thus far.

 

[Nick Jansky]

A valid point, but he didn't have to be there, did he? He could have watched it in Saudi, with no need to mix with the great unwashed.

I'm not his biggest fan, but I think he did a 'fair to middling' job, whiich is more than can be said of these clowns thus far.

I agree. Having had dealings with him unconnected to the Blades I like the bloke very much. I also know he fell in love with the club. The game changed during his ownership of us and he didn’t have the money to keep pace with those changes. He made some mistakes, but we all do don’t we.

But there is no doubt the amount he personally had riding on that match would have concentrated his mind!

 

[CarlMcBlade]

..... very true.

MOST wanted Prince out because he couldn't take us to the next level, wasn't able to fund us etc...

Would we be in this position if Prince was owner still? Probably not if you base it on his porevious 3-4 years as owner (yoyo)

Would he have sacked Wilder a 2nd time? Probably not

Would he have appointed Selles? Almost certainly not.

As a fan base, we got what we wished for, when we said Prince could not fund it, and now its backfiring.

The Prince said himself that he couldn’t take us the next level.

 

[UddersBlade]

The Prince said himself that he couldn’t take us the next level.

Yeah he did a great job overall with limited finance. Basically without the parachute money and McQuarie Bank loans…..he could not manage our cash flow. If we’d not been promoted under Hecky we would certainly have been in serious financial trouble.

His time was up & he knew he had done as much as he could. He also got a good price if the £110 million is correct.

 

[Loco Blade]

..... very true.

MOST wanted Prince out because he couldn't take us to the next level, wasn't able to fund us etc...

Would we be in this position if Prince was owner still? Probably not if you base it on his porevious 3-4 years as owner (yoyo)

Would he have sacked Wilder a 2nd time? Probably not

Would he have appointed Selles? Almost certainly not.

As a fan base, we got what we wished for, when we said Prince could not fund it, and now its backfiring.

I still think it’s too early to call out the new ownership. No way has anything even close to being a solid platform to build on been achieved based on our short flirts with the premier league. What is doing my head in is the remote control / anonymous way the club is being run not the principal of using data . Prince was an absent landlord . When you buy a business or a football club you should be literally sleeping on the boardroom floor till it’s right not doing a teams online with Bettis. It’s as much about effort as it is about flashing the cash

 

[Working Class Hero]

We can't complain about the Prince, he was there for probably the best Blades period of my life.

I do though, think he must be the luckiest owner ever to exist. He got half the club for a quid, which then rose through the leagues thanks basically to Chris Wilder, increasing his half's value to over £50m. He then gets the other half for only £5m! The club then goes on to almost finish in Europe that season, for which he can take all the glory, despite all the transfers etc. being completed before he takes over. We do get relegated but then bounce back without him really investing a bean into the squad (in fact the one player we do buy isn't even paid for), but luckily we happen to have Iliman Ndiaye waiting in the wings! After selling our best players and serving up our worst team ever (relative to the division we're in), the squad is then left with hardly any players under contract. But then in strolls Chris Wilder again to somehow perform a miracle to have us top of the league just as he's about to sell, getting him a tidy £110m.

Luck or genius?