Outgoing? Burrows

[Upton_Blade]

Look at how Duffy went afterwards and ourselves. I loved Duffy but it was a move that while potentially unpopular worked out very well for us.


No chance he would cut it in the premier league considering we, rightly, went to a flat 3 in midfield. Where would you put him?!

I'd argue it was THE perfect time to get rid. Something that doesn't happen often

We'll definately have to agree to disagree on that tbh.

If you look at CW's signings that summer he blatantly, and I think he has admitted this, planned on a slight tweak from 3412 in the promotion year to 3421 once we were promoted.

It's why Freeman and Robinson were 2 of our marquee signings that summer.

If that was the plan I don't see how Duffy wouldn't have at least warranted a place on the bench if you're playing 2 behind a central striker.

 

[EddieColquhoun]

Do you genuinely think Duffy wouldn't have contributed that season?

After how great he was the season before when we were promoted .

Yes. To the detriment of the team. There was no need. It was the usual from Wilder. Perceived challenge to his authority. What might we have done with Duffy? Who knows. Maybe 2 places better. Maybe not. You’re missing the point about his style of “management”.

Duffy's preseason "run" on the Inside Shirecliffe video, his poor loan spells at Stoke and Den Haag that season, then him dropping to L1>L2>non-League within 17 months lead me to think otherwise.

 

[SE1Blade]

Duffy's preseason "run" on the Inside Shirecliffe video, his poor loan spells at Stoke and Den Haag that season, then him dropping to L1>L2>non-League within 17 months lead me to think otherwise.

Which is also where he’d played all of his football prior to joining us (ie. Never played in the prem).

 

[Upton_Blade]

Duffy's preseason "run" on the Inside Shirecliffe video, his poor loan spells at Stoke and Den Haag that season, then him dropping to L1>L2>non-League within 17 months lead me to think otherwise.

You can "think otherwise" to your hearts content. That's your prerogative.

My perspective is that we had an absolute key part of the reason we had been promoted that was bombed out as he had the absolute audacity to knock on Wilder's door and ask for a pay rise.

Oh how very dare he.

 

[Weasel]

Completely different skills are required, playing left wing,in a midfield four. You are often facing the wrong way, when receiving the ball to feet. When to protect it, when to turn, when to support the attack, when to stay back. All difficult skills and not just easy to adapt to. It also requires more running as you are a midfielder in essence, not just an attacking left back. Burrows was hopeless when played in central midfield. I don't feel he has the awareness, stamina or discipline to play further forward.

Well if you say so, then i guess it must be so.

 

[Shawy24]

Duffy's preseason "run" on the Inside Shirecliffe video, his poor loan spells at Stoke and Den Haag that season, then him dropping to L1>L2>non-League within 17 months lead me to think otherwise.

You have a point. But there’s a way to do it.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Bad news bed-wetters

 

[Champagneblade]

Bad news bed-wetters

Grbic - YES! Get in there!

 

[Bladesman]

Bad news bed-wetters

They are alive!

 

[VolcanicAsh]

erm wernt you around then when we had him on loan

Of course I was, i also remember the serious injury he had. Lot of money for someone who doesn’t average that many games per season.

 

[ancientblade]

Of course I was, i also remember the serious injury he had. Lot of money for someone who doesn’t average that many games per season.

well looks like hes on his way

 

[Lord Eddard Muir]

Duffy was a weird one in that we seem to be the only club that remembers him particularly fondly. I am always surprised at the vitriol Donny Rovers fans have for him, they are usually quite easily pleased but they remember him as lazy and arrogant.

 

[Grappler]

Duffy was a weird one in that we seem to be the only club that remembers him particularly fondly. I am always surprised at the vitriol Donny Rovers fans have for him, they are usually quite easily pleased but they remember him as lazy and arrogant.

Maybe ours was the one club where everything clicked into place for him?

Once Duffy, Fleck and Coutts gelled, they were fantastic to watch.

 

[Lord Eddard Muir]

Maybe ours was the one club where everything clicked into place for him?

Once Duffy, Fleck and Coutts gelled, they were fantastic to watch.

No arguments there mate, he was peerless for those two seasons. Did feel like the kind of player who would have been a useful option off the bench in that first Prem season. Wasn't it rumoured at the time that he had some kind of falling out with Wilder over wages? Certainly Wilder was initially talking about him getting to go to Anfield with us etc but he was swiftly out of the picture

 

[Grappler]

No arguments there mate, he was peerless for those two seasons. Did feel like the kind of player who would have been a useful option off the bench in that first Prem season. Wasn't it rumoured at the time that he had some kind of falling out with Wilder over wages? Certainly Wilder was initially talking about him getting to go to Anfield with us etc but he was swiftly out of the picture

Yes, I seem to remember that happening as well. Duffy went to see Wilder and ask for a pay rise, which for some reason, was wrong place, wrong time to ask, and it all blew up from there. Just prior, I think Chris Wilder had said in a TV interview how great it was for Mark Duffy, playing at Prescot Cables and now going back to play at Anfield, something like that.

 

[Grappler]

Yes, I seem to remember that happening as well. Duffy went to see Wilder and ask for a pay rise, which for some reason, was wrong place, wrong time to ask, and it all blew up from there. Just prior, I think Chris Wilder had said in a TV interview how great it was for Mark Duffy, playing at Prescot Cables and now going back to play at Anfield, something like that.

Just checked and it looks like he asked for a new contract, which I guess included a pay rise.

 

[NerdyBlade]

Just checked and it looks like he asked for a new contract, which I guess included a pay rise.

The rumour at the time was his Agent went to CW and started asking for a new deal. CW said "well he's just got a promotion bonus, so that'll have to do for now" which has agent didn't like. Agent threatened to find an alternative club and leave, so CW froze him out

 

[OLDBLADE43]

Just checked and it looks like he asked for a new contract, which I guess included a pay rise.

Maybe it was the manner in which he asked? Only a suggestion.

 

[TCsLoveChild]

The rumour at the time was his Agent went to CW and started asking for a new deal. CW said "well he's just got a promotion bonus, so that'll have to do for now" which has agent didn't like. Agent threatened to find an alternative club and leave, so CW froze him out

Wasn’t his Dad his “agent”? He certainly got the hump with Wilder from what I remember UTB

 

[VolcanicAsh]

well looks like hes on his way

Ok cool, still doesn’t change anything. It’ll be interesting to see how many games he gets through this coming season. Hopefully all but who knows.

 

[Carlton Blade]

Like when we play West Ham?