Burnley failing to control their players and fans.

[mattbianco1]

Burnley will get relegated from the Premi League. They never try to stay in the big league.

Burnley have had 9 years in the PL in the last 15 years.

United have had 6y in 33y

 

[Booker4]

Poor stewarding from Burnley for sure. Those goading players should be banned but probably won't.

On the whole though no issues with Burnley. It's a club I respect in fairness. Let them enjoy promotion because for them this will be as good as it gets. Sadly also the case for us if we go up.

Parker has done well but he inherited a much better group of players than Wilder did and got bigger backing last summer with no points deduction even though they also got a transfer ban in the same window we did. That's not saying they should have had minus two points but I think Burnley should finish second with their team.

 

[Pintor75]

Didn't see the incidents until today on here, but something has to be done before a player/ official/ manager is assaulted or injured. Our players should just get off the field straight away, in this case prevented by the positioning of the tunnel maybe, but looking at our own home matches, why do we have to do a lap of honour after every game, even after losing?, eventually some away supporters will take offence at it , thinking we're baiting them and run on the field, there are some idiots around waiting for a time and place so don't do it. Likewise I've said before, why let both sets of fans out at the same time, whereby we have to walk down Bramall Lane through away supporters coming out of their stand, why can't the police keep them in for 15 minutes?, surely that would make it easier to cope witn

 

[fifty shades of blade]

Burnley have had 9 years in the PL in the last 15 years.

United have had 6y in 33y

But the poster wasn't comparing their record to ours, so pointless reply!

 

[Bladesman]

Didn't see the incidents until today on here, but something has to be done before a player/ official/ manager is assaulted or injured. Our players should just get off the field straight away, in this case prevented by the positioning of the tunnel maybe, but looking at our own home matches, why do we have to do a lap of honour after every game, even after losing?, eventually some away supporters will take offence at it , thinking we're baiting them and run on the field, there are some idiots around waiting for a time and place so don't do it. Likewise I've said before, why let both sets of fans out at the same time, whereby we have to walk down Bramall Lane through away supporters coming out of their stand, why can't the police keep them in for 15 minutes?, surely that would make it easier to cope witn

Isn't Burnley's dressing rooms on the far corner of the pitch?

Anyway like I say it was Sheffield United's fault for not being able to control the Burnley fans at their ground. Give us another fine.

 

[dsr-burnley]

Poor stewarding from Burnley for sure. Those goading players should be banned but probably won't.

On the whole though no issues with Burnley. It's a club I respect in fairness. Let them enjoy promotion because for them this will be as good as it gets. Sadly also the case for us if we go up.

Parker has done well but he inherited a much better group of players than Wilder did and got bigger backing last summer with no points deduction even though they also got a transfer ban in the same window we did. That's not saying they should have had minus two points but I think Burnley should finish second with their team.

To be fair, the transfer ban was for not submitting the accounts on time, not for overspending. We can't overspend because the owners have taken so much money out of the club that there's nothing left to overspend with!

Of Burnley's 20 players yesterday, only Trafford, Cullen, Brownhill, and Koleosho (unused sub) were at Burnley for a full season last year. Esteve and Redmond (unused sub) came in January '24 and Roberts and Egan Riley were out on loan last season. Parker had a lot of rebuilding to do, much of it after the season had started because we had a fire sale at the end of August.

 

[mattbianco1]

But the poster wasn't comparing their record to ours, so pointless reply!

But they said they "never try and stay in the big league"

Soon to be 10 seasons from a possible 16 seasons up there would suggest that view is wide of the mark

 

[Balham]

Burnley have had 9 years in the PL in the last 15 years.

United have had 6y in 33y

Burnley have had 9 in the past 33, which I presumed you picked as the start of the Premier League era. That's not hugely dissimilar to us. They lack the finances and the location to do anything better than scrap valiantly to stay up and I'd be amazed if they weren't rock bottom by Easter 2026, not least because their star player (Trafford) is agitating to leave to a competent football club.

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

It looked like they were trying to do that and should have been allowed to with dignity. We were and are worthy opponents. The Burnley tunnel is in a corner of the ground where most of the Burnley fans illegally and unrestrictedly were invading the pitch and running towards them.

There was echoes of Forest here. No man, footballer or otherwise, is going to want potentially violent fans running at them like that.

As has been said, many of the fans were more interested in taunting our players and fans than actually celebrating their achievement.

Twatish behaviour of the highest order.

Correct. And seeing as they mobbed that corner the moment the whistle blew, there's was no option of a quick exit.
Plus, had some players done that, they'd have been leaving the subs, physios and management on their own back in the dugouts.
Nothing to do with our players, although some people blame them immediately.

 

[mattbianco1]

Burnley have had 9 in the past 33, which I presumed you picked as the start of the Premier League era. That's not hugely dissimilar to us. They lack the finances and the location to do anything better than scrap valiantly to stay up and I'd be amazed if they weren't rock bottom by Easter 2026, not least because their star player (Trafford) is agitating to leave to a competent football club.

I know. My point was that "they don't try and stay" there.

They had 6 consecutive seasons there which goes against that statement.

Of their 4 relegations, they have bounced back at the first time of asking on 3 occasions.

 

[Frank the tank]

To be fair, the transfer ban was for not submitting the accounts on time, not for overspending. We can't overspend because the owners have taken so much money out of the club that there's nothing left to overspend with!

Of Burnley's 20 players yesterday, only Trafford, Cullen, Brownhill, and Koleosho (unused sub) were at Burnley for a full season last year. Esteve and Redmond (unused sub) came in January '24 and Roberts and Egan Riley were out on loan last season. Parker had a lot of rebuilding to do, much of it after the season had started because we had a fire sale at the end of August.

He's done a good job undoubtedly
But the three of us had squads so much stronger than the others it's Almoat cheating
You and Leeds have had relatively serene seasons with the sides youve been able to put out bad the rest and rotation you've been able to give them whereas ours has been a hotch potch of building a squad over two windows with a lot of players who have had no pre season or injury issues
Think if we had kept souttar fit we would have walked the league and Arblaster was a huge loss as he was the best player in the division at the time and added so much to our side when we lost that we became very one dimensional and easier to play against

Anyway my point being parker has done well with the cards dealt him but the championship this season is poor nad getting poorer year on year so much so that the relegated team can strip their squad down to the nub and still maintain a promotion challenge with loans and players not nea ly good enough for the Premier league

I look around and the only players I see who id class as Premier league quality are all potential I. E Trafford, Bellingham, Rigg etc no one who I think could take the step up now

 

[fifty shades of blade]

But they said they "never try and stay in the big league"

Soon to be 10 seasons from a possible 16 seasons up there would suggest that view is wide of the mark

Agree but still has nothing to do with us. If they wrote that our recent record was better than Burnley's then your point would stand...but they didnt.

 

[Booker4]

To be fair, the transfer ban was for not submitting the accounts on time, not for overspending. We can't overspend because the owners have taken so much money out of the club that there's nothing left to overspend with!

Of Burnley's 20 players yesterday, only Trafford, Cullen, Brownhill, and Koleosho (unused sub) were at Burnley for a full season last year. Esteve and Redmond (unused sub) came in January '24 and Roberts and Egan Riley were out on loan last season. Parker had a lot of rebuilding to do, much of it after the season had started because we had a fire sale at the end of August.

That's 7 players who were at Parkers disposal for this season though which is over half the team. I'm not saying Parker's not done a good job at all, he has, but I just would expect Burnley to go up with the team he had this season and transfer budget. As I said before, no issues with Burnley, it's a decent club with top fans.

 

[dsr-burnley]

He's done a good job undoubtedly
But the three of us had squads so much stronger than the others it's Almoat cheating
You and Leeds have had relatively serene seasons with the sides youve been able to put out bad the rest and rotation you've been able to give them whereas ours has been a hotch potch of building a squad over two windows with a lot of players who have had no pre season or injury issues
Think if we had kept souttar fit we would have walked the league and Arblaster was a huge loss as he was the best player in the division at the time and added so much to our side when we lost that we became very one dimensional and easier to play against

Anyway my point being parker has done well with the cards dealt him but the championship this season is poor nad getting poorer year on year so much so that the relegated team can strip their squad down to the nub and still maintain a promotion challenge with loans and players not nea ly good enough for the Premier league

I look around and the only players I see who id class as Premier league quality are all potential I. E Trafford, Bellingham, Rigg etc no one who I think could take the step up now

Yes, I agree. One reason the relegated sides do so well (Luton apart!) is that for some reason the players that got us relegated seem to be still worth shedloads of money. Hence we were able to sell players for about £90m last summer (albeit mostly after the season had started) and about £60m the time before, after Dyche's relegation. I think it's that as much as (or more than?) the parachute money that distorts the market so unfairly.

And back to the original topic, I agree that some of our fans are yobboes and care only for themselves. The reason Jack Moron invades the pitch is because he thinks the promotion isn't about the players, it isn't about the 20,000 fans, it's about Jack Moron and he wants to be there. I hope the ones who were getting in players' faces and winding them up do get banned, and if Choudrry had chinned one I would class that as "fan went looking for trouble - found it" and let it slide.

Anecdotally, a lot of them are on cocaine which presumably makes them lose what little wits they had.

 

[Jon Bon II]

I've emailed the EFL about the scenes at the end and about the players not being able to get off the coach because of the thugs. And I also said 'and while I'm here, anything happening with SWFC and flash-bang and bottle throwing at our players?'

You can call me all the names under the sun, I don't give a flying, I'm just so pissed off that it's only us that ever gets punished for stuff and other clubs seem to get away with it.

I'll let you know if I get a reply.

 

[fifty shades of blade]

Cracks me up when some of these so called 'hard' football 'lads' act up and then start squealing like fannies when they get 'some' back at them. Classic school bully mentality, soft as shit once someone lands one on the kisser or the beak

 

[Grey Blade]

Yes, I agree. One reason the relegated sides do so well (Luton apart!) is that for some reason the players that got us relegated seem to be still worth shedloads of money. Hence we were able to sell players for about £90m last summer (albeit mostly after the season had started) and about £60m the time before, after Dyche's relegation. I think it's that as much as (or more than?) the parachute money that distorts the market so unfairly.

And back to the original topic, I agree that some of our fans are yobboes and care only for themselves. The reason Jack Moron invades the pitch is because he thinks the promotion isn't about the players, it isn't about the 20,000 fans, it's about Jack Moron and he wants to be there. I hope the ones who were getting in players' faces and winding them up do get banned, and if Choudrry had chinned one I would class that as "fan went looking for trouble - found it" and let it slide.

Anecdotally, a lot of them are on cocaine which presumably makes them lose what little wits they had.

I shared transport with a Burnley fan and had to wait for quite while for the celebrations to be over and observed masses of Burnley fans walking past. The only bad behaviour I saw was the idiots on the pitch and clips of phone footage.
Shame that a tiny minority of fans ruin the reputation of the rest of us

 

[gordoncharles]

I've never thought that anyone from the stands should be on the pitch for any reason, no matter how celebratory the moment, unless they're invited to be there.

But, blind loyalty aside, a lot of people should give a little thought as to why this sort of thing seems to follow us around a little bit, and try to to imagine why that might be?

 

[SUFC Guy]

And there's more

Some of their fans are acting like utter bellends.

Surely there must be some punishment for this? A decent sized fine should do it.

 

[shorehamview]

Given Burnley's previous manager got sacked then went to Bayern Munich then surely Parker has to be a shoo-in for the soon-to-be vacant Real Madrid job?

 

[JT89]

Didn't see the incidents until today on here, but something has to be done before a player/ official/ manager is assaulted or injured.

It's already too late, the aftermath of the Forest game should have led to the FA/Police actually dealing with pitch invasions by enforcing the current punishments (it's apparently a criminal offence, not that you'd know from the police reaction) or potentially putting in place stricter punishments for large scale pitch invasions, points deductions, games behind closed doors, etc. But for whatever reason they seemingly chose to do nothing, well other than attempting to pursue criminal convictions for people who were forced to defend themselves against a mass crowd.

 

[Selly]

Those goading players should be banned but probably won't.

Those on the pitch should be banned. For life. It is an offence to enter the field of play.

Didn't see the incidents until today on here, but something has to be done before a player/ official/ manager is assaulted or injured.

yes - and looking at teams/players who are on the pitch is casting the gaze in the wrong direction.

There needs to be significant punitive action for clubs that allow this sort of thing to happen. Putting to one side the outcome of the events, Forest and Everton have barely been punished for significant and flagrant breaches in recent time - it is the clubs responsibility to steward the game correctly.

We had blocks of the SS shut for a significant period after a flare was set off at the Derby. There need to be large scale stand closures for any incidents of this sort. Shut the first 10 rows of the stand. Fines don't do the job.

For a sport that is so fixated on protecting players when they go down with anything that looks like a head injury, football is failing miserably at protecting the players from individuals who are either celebrating (which is the majority, albeit that they shouldn`t be on the pitch) or seeking to cause trouble (see Sharp, B vs Forest)

 

[Balham]

Given Burnley's previous manager got sacked then went to Bayern Munich then surely Parker has to be a shoo-in for the soon-to-be vacant Real Madrid job?

Slightly pedantic point but Kompany wasn't sacked, he was the source of Burnley's 4th biggest transfer fee received last summer (€12m).

 

[Selly]

I've never thought that anyone from the stands should be on the pitch for any reason, no matter how celebratory the moment, unless they're invited to be there.

But, blind loyalty aside, a lot of people should give a little thought as to why this sort of thing seems to follow us around a little bit, and try to to imagine why that might be?

Because we keep coming up short in big one off games attached to promotion?

Forest and Burnley having pitch invaders is nothing to do with us - we secured promotion at home last time round and not a single person entered the field of play.

 

[AWetFlannel]

I'm not against pitch invasions in the slightest. I'm also not against giving opposition players a bit of stick in the process, but recording yourself running at players to get a reaction for your socials has got to be the most cringe worthy thing I've ever seen.

 

[loyalblade95]

Just blamed us again for forest and had a dig at wilder

a bit ironic really, Jordan hates Wilder yet Wilder's (the old school, heart on his sleeve type) the sort of manager that SJ would have employed when he owned Palace.

His constant sucking up to the big 6 owners is weird as well, especially Todd Boehly who can do no wrong in Jordan's eyes, even though he's had some questionable decisions as Chelsea owner.

Including (Boehly that is) owning a ticket touting website that rips his own Chelsea fans off with extortionate prices, which the EPL don't seem to care about.

 

[Blackheath Blade]

It looked like they were trying to do that and should have been allowed to with dignity. We were and are worthy opponents. The Burnley tunnel is in a corner of the ground where most of the Burnley fans illegally and unrestrictedly were invading the pitch and running towards them.

There was echoes of Forest here. No man, footballer or otherwise, is going to want potentially violent fans running at them like that.

As has been said, many of the fans were more interested in taunting our players and fans than actually celebrating their achievement.

Twatish behaviour of the highest order.

Shows a lack of control by our players granted be great to show appreciation to the travelling fans but get off the pitch let them celebrate.. I'm sure we would have done the same had we have won promotion

Sorry mate but you are so wrong with this comment, along with quite a few more on here who have seen the pitch invasion and immediately laid the blame at the door of OUR players, perhaps based on the recent fines we've accrued because of player disorder. Edgar Allan Poo has summed it up really well.

The stadium announcer read out a message at least twice before kick off and again at half time, that the playing area was not to be entered onto and that anyone who ignored this rule would face a lifetime ban from Burnley FC. Therefore, good luck to them going forward in sorting out several hundred bans to those supporters who decided to jump onto the pitch at the final whistle.

No blame whatsoever should be laid at the door of Sheffield United for what happened last night. Understandably, Burnley's players and staff were celebrating amongst themselves so our players then started to make their way to the tunnel when the invasion started, despite further stadium announcements to clear the pitch. However, the main invasion seemed to be from the tunnel area meaning that our players and staff had to walk through these wankers which led to several nasty confrontations.

I noticed Hamza react angrily to something that was either said / done to him and some team mates and a couple of stewards tried to lead him away. Hamza was so enraged, I thought that perhaps something racist had been said to him by one of those who were in his face. The rest of the players and staff had little support or assistance in leaving these scenes on the pitch which were chaotic and dangerous.

Quite frankly, a large portion of those who invaded the pitch acted appallingly and Burnley Football Club should be held fully accountable for what happened last night.

 

[fifty shades of blade]

Just blamed us again for forest and had a dig at wilder

Who cares what a rich ponce says about us? The only people who listen to and believe his shite are those at the lower end of the intelligence scale who think that, because he talks posh, he should be revered.

 

[Shakin Stevens is my Dad]

Cracks me up when some of these so called 'hard' football 'lads' act up and then start squealing like fannies when they get 'some' back at them. Classic school bully mentality, soft as shit once someone lands one on the kisser or the beak

Cracks me up when some of these so called 'hard' football 'lads' act up and then start squealing like fannies when they get 'some' back at them. Classic school bully mentality, soft as shit once someone lands one on the kisser or the beak

Size 11 to middle stump!

 

[BladeByChoice]

To the letter of the law, if you are in possession of a flair/smoke bomb/firework and a match day ticket on match day, anywhere, that is now a criminal offence.

The number of smoke bombs being set of on the pitch yesterday was a disgrace, clear images of the perpetrators on TV, not holding my breath for any banning orders.

https://thefsa.org.uk/news/flare-play-pyro-and-the-law/