Brian Howard Saga - What are the rules??

[gregblade]

Ok, so first things first, its official. Brian Howard is a Blade.

But, after reading official statements from both clubs (available on the official sites) a couple of things have pleased me, but 1 or 2 things have got me worried.

Firstly United's statement, somewhat short and sweet sums up the entire saga and to me as a slight drop of sarcasm in it, stating that Barnsley will be publicising the details of the deal and United will make no further comment. It kind of says "Let Barnsley do the talking".

A pleasing thing from Barnsley's statement is this, and I quote "Further to our statement on Tuesday, the club has now recieved a formal response from Brian Howard's agent that their client does not wish to consider any alternative offers that might be put to him from other clubs and wishes only to join Sheffield United"

This clearly shows that Howard had his heart set on moving to BDTBL and anyone that is so committed to joining our club is a welcome addition in my opinion.


Now, the main reason for my concern, and the reason for this thread.........

As mentioned on another post, Barnsley's statements clearly states that "It has also been agreed between the club's that Brian Howard will not play against Barnsley FC in the period of his loan to Sheffield United

Im not 100% sure on this, and I would appreciate any further information, but by agreeing to this and then publicly announcing it, are we not in breach of any third party ownership/influence rules?

Given recent press and the queries drawn up over the loan deal that took Steven Kabba to Watford (admittedly only by that sprout known as Martin Samuel) are we possibly going to end up in trouble for this???????

Toughts please?

and I hope my first thread here on sheff-utd.co.uk goes down reasonably well.........

 

[happyhippy]

During the loan period, the parent club (Barnsley) can dictate terms. It's all perfectly above board as far as the Football League is concerned.

 

[bettsyblade86]

yes because of the transfer window we can't officially own the player until january and so barnsley can stipulate that he doesn't play against them, the same clause can be put into any loan deal.
The Steve Kabba thing was the journalists gettin facts wrong, for a change!

 

[gregblade]

Thanks for the replies...They've put my mind at rest.

I presume if its like a season long loan then such agreements cant be made, but as a short term, what is classed as an "emergency loan" its ok to stipulate such clauses.

I seem to remember some controversy over Tim Howards loan move to Everton from Man Utd a few years back, but cant remember what happened.......

 

[Linz]

The Steve Kabba thing was the journalists gettin facts wrong, for a change!

There are different rules for the Premiership and the Football League... so when the above was investigated, it was found that there was no agreement not to play Kabba but there might have trouble if an agreement was found.

However, because we're in the Football League... they take the view that Barnsley still hold Howard's registration and so can say whether or not he can play.

 

[gregblade]

Thanks for the clarification linz

 

[matth]

Also, I believe that in the Premiership now, due to the Howard, Kabba and Boa Morte debacles, it is not allowed for a player on loan to play against his parent club. This neatly gets round any problems with third-party influence.

No such rules in the Championship as far as I know.

 

[shorehamview]

When David Bentley was on a season's loan at Norwich when they were in the Premier League he didn't play against Arsenal, his parent club. So it's not a new thing, just that fat buffoon Martin Samuel spouting cobblers.
Sack him, I want his job.

 

[silverfox]

When David Bentley was on a season's loan at Norwich when they were in the Premier League he didn't play against Arsenal, his parent club. So it's not a new thing, just that fat buffoon Martin Samuel spouting cobblers.
Sack him, I want his job.

I nearly said you could just grow a beard and you could pass for him.

But I didn't and I think you are quite slim and not cockerknee!

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

I thought he wanted the looking good naked gig???