Brewster and McBurnie Charged

[RetfordBlade96]

Common assault, which suggests more than self defence.
I would hope that unless there is very clear evidence to the contrary that the magistrates will clear them. However the CPS must have something that none of us has seen.

Would witnesses (Aka the Forest fan being 'afraid for his life') not be enough anyway even without further evidence?

 

[Snowflake]

Would witnesses (Aka the Forest fan being 'afraid for his life') not be enough anyway even without further evidence?

I trust we are employing decent lawyers to provide some clear, unbiased evidence

 

[Toronto Blade]

Good deflection by the police. They are just covering up their incompetent protection of players and staff from a wild mob of illegal pitch invaders. They can't say that they had no idea it would happen. Someone should be facing the sack it could have been much worse than seeing Sharp being blindsided.

 

[Yogi]

Common assault, which suggests more than self defence.
I would hope that unless there is very clear evidence to the contrary that the magistrates will clear them. However the CPS must have something that none of us has seen.

Got to have because from what I’ve seen I’m not sure they’ve got near assault. Mcburnie maybe if the allegation he stamped on someone is true but Brewster I can’t even see how they’d arrive at a point where they could charge him

 

[RetfordBlade96]

I trust we are employing decent lawyers to provide some clear, unbiased evidence

That is assuming a fair bit of the CPS given its record! But to be fair there will be a lot more footage of the events then what we will have seen. I don't think it changes the underlying argument about the whole incident but I wouldn't be surprised if there is more footage then that 8 second clip we have all seen.

 

[Heely bottoms underpants]

Well folks, we are now officially bitter rivals.
Never really gave the scabs much thought but now I hate the cunts with a passion.

 

[RetfordBlade96]

Got to have because from what I’ve seen I’m not sure they’ve got near assault. Mcburnie maybe if the allegation he stamped on someone is true but Brewster I can’t even see how they’d arrive at a point where they could charge him

Common assault can be a raised fist doesn't even have to have physical contact so Brewster (IMO justified) 'choke hold' on the Forest Fan could easily (if you take away mitigation) Common assault.

 

[Harry's Game]

Excellent pre seaon no signings and now could be without Brewster for the first three months of the season.

 

[Yogi]

Common assault can be a raised fist doesn't even have to have physical contact so Brewster (IMO justified) 'choke hold' on the Forest Fan could easily (if you take away mitigation) Common assault.

True but if that’s the justification they’re wanting to use they’d best clear plenty of time in court because every forest fan who came into contact with any united player on that pitch could also be charged under that application of the law.

 

[RetfordBlade96]

True but if that’s the justification they’re wanting to use they’d best clear plenty of time in court because every forest fan who came into contact with any united player on that pitch could also be charged under that application of the law.

Totally agree, with my (albeit tiny amount) of legal training, I imagine their argument will be the level of force used ('Choke hold' 'Stamp') relative to the perceived danger that they were both in means that it is no longer self defence. Now I personally think that is a mad argument given the circumstances but thats what I think they will say.

 

[Yogi]

Totally agree, with my (albeit tiny amount) of legal training, I imagine their argument will be the level of force used ('Choke hold' 'Stamp') relative to the perceived danger that they were both in means that it is no longer self defence. Now I personally think that is a mad argument given the circumstances but thats what I think they will say.

Surely that’s all they can say the players will surely argue the circumstances though and I fail to see how a reasonable person can conclude that it wasn’t possible for the players to be under threat

 

[Bladeloyal]

Difficult to be stitched up with tv cameras and thousands of potential witnesses ?

You would be surprised what the old bill will try to cook up ,as for witnesses I'm sure there will be plenty of florist willing to perjure themselves .

 

[Addison]

As the nature of charges are now out in the public domain it may not be appropriate to comment publicly on the perceived individual circumstances of the case. Section 39 common assault, if that what the charge is, is the lowest form of violence to the person. Normally charged where no serious injury but lesser injuries such as bruises/grazes occur.

As they are likely to plead not guilty at the Magistrates Court Hearing on 28 July the case will be adjourned for a later date. It will then be decided which Court it should be heard in. Crown Court only hears trials by jury.

 

[Booker4]

I guess what we don't know is how many supporters have been charged? Or is that come out also? If after thousands of fans have gone on the pitch only McBurnie and Brewster have been charged, aside obviously of the guy who headbutted Sharp, then something is seriously wrong.

 

[Harrisblade]

As the nature of charges are now out in the public domain it may not be appropriate to comment publicly on the perceived individual circumstances of the case. Section 39 common assault, if that what the charge is, is the lowest form of violence to the person. Normally charged where no serious injury but lesser injuries such as bruises/grazes occur.

As they are likely to plead not guilty at the Magistrates Court Hearing on 28 July the case will be adjourned for a later date. It will then be decided which Court it should be heard in. Crown Court only hears trials by jury.

Obviously Crown Court cant be in Nottinghamshire or surrounding areas if jury trial.

 

[BerksBlade]

Would witnesses (Aka the Forest fan being 'afraid for his life') not be enough anyway even without further evidence?

The Forest gimp being "afraid for his life" is not evidence.

 

[Rufus Smalls]

Spot on.
Incredible decision, especially when contrasted with the decision to not take any action against Viera.

It’s no surprise - Viera is one of the Premier League darlings.

 

[Torrix1889]

Excellent pre seaon no signings and now could be without Brewster for the first three months of the season.

Why would we be without Brewster for the first 3 months....other than his injury of course?

 

[St Albans Blade]

Mmm. So McBurnie, whilst injured, gets cautioned for the best tackle he put in all year ?!?

 

[Snowflake]

That is assuming a fair bit of the CPS given its record! But to be fair there will be a lot more footage of the events then what we will have seen. I don't think it changes the underlying argument about the whole incident but I wouldn't be surprised if there is more footage then that 8 second clip we have all seen.

I was hoping our lawyers would NOT be relying on evidence provided by CPS !!

 

[Rufus Smalls]

I suppose we ought to wait for more facts but if it is criminally charged, then I can see Notts constabulary being cunts about it for a few reasons.

I'm just amazed the CPS have gone along with it.

If this is the case I can see a lot of people within football speaking out in support of them both.

CPS can throw out a charge if it’s ‘Not in the Public Interest’. Seems only 1 member of the public (the twat on the floor ‘feeringfor his life’) is enough to dismiss that theory . FFS !

 

[Blades98]

The most telling part to me is that after a quick check of Twitter, I only see Forest and and Pigs who agree with the charges. Unbelievable really.

 

[Snowflake]

You would be surprised what the old bill will try to cook up ,as for witnesses I'm sure there will be plenty of florist willing to perjure themselves .

I doubt that the CPS will rely on individuals who at the time were breaking the law by being on the pitch. If they do our lawyers should have a field day !!

 

[kgchezzyblade]

This suggests that it can only be heard in a magistrates court

Assault offences explained – Sentencing

 

[1889]

When you see Viera clear as day kick a fan and no charges are brought … then you see the grainy McB video on which you can’t tell one way or the other if he stamped and they are charged … WTF?

You can see Brewster pull the kid down but what was he supposed to do leave the kid in Bogles face?

This is wrong on every level , who was where they shouldn’t have been?

Probably the lad who Viera booted didn’t want to make a complaint.

 

[Rufus Smalls]

There must be some cctv that have the players bang to rights doing something. But whatever that something is has to have been done in self defence.

That cctv footage will have been filed away - with the one outside the Pentagon petrol station on 9/11.

 

[RetfordBlade96]

I was hoping our lawyers would NOT be relying on evidence provided by CPS !!

I thought you was talking about the what the CPS evidence would be, my mistake!

 

[ashsufc1889]

Charged with what exactly?

Impersonating footballers ;-)

 

[sheffieldred]

Don't believe the tribal thing to justify for or against. Common sense is the charges are dropped and the focus turns to how the efl, football clubs and police stop this sort of incident reoccurring.

Bit shit for the players having it hanging over them.

 

[HillmortonBlade]

Modern day football… sigh (in a resigned manner)