Boo-ers? Out thine selves

[Pierre's PC]

The team scored two goals more shots booing stopped how can you prove it didn't, how many times have teams been booed of at halftime and come out with better performance second half I would say more than a few.

A team goes in at half time losing (or in Tuesdays case winning)

The supporters Boo and vocally show displeasure
The manager alters tactics to counter the other team
The manager gives the players a rocket and reminds them of their responsibilities
The team have a chance to get together not afforded to them on the pitch and discuss what they feel is the issue at pitch level.

The team comes out, plays better and wins at a canter.

Which of the above statements is least likely to be an influence?

Correlation does not imply causation

Seems like everyone wants to be a snowflake and think they matter. Have a badge

 

[RealMcCoy]

I despise this "they pay their money; they can say what they like.." garbage. Most of us want to be entertained and back our team in a convivial, supportive atmosphere, not poisoned by Neanderthal lager drinking idiots who think their uneducated, simple-minded "views" have priority over everyone else's. They don't. We have too high a ratio of negative, amoeba brained twats amongst our fan base. They won't be satisfied until the ale house crap that is all they have ever known once again reigns supreme, Adkins football is consigned to history and we can be upanatem under Muckanettles Morgs.

Some of them are close to beyond belief (certainly outside the depths of S2) and certainly beneath contempt. Worst, thickest, vilest supporters in the land. A complete embarrassment.

Hesitate to get into a discussion with you Pinchy, but I think you are missing the point of what happened on Tuesday.
Firstly, I should state that I don't think anyone should ever boo. Ever.
Secondly, I don't think the boos were against "possession football" which I think is an emerging theme here and on other threads, and ( I think ) what you seem to be objecting to. It would be a mistake to think that Tuesday night was a good demonstration of possession football.
There wasn't that much booing, but enough, certainly during the first half, to be heard, and to be an issue that deserves discussion.
Despite the score, the team performance was very very poor. The Fleetwood performance was even worse than ours, by a long way. The Blades performance was negative ( not just about keeping possession) to the point of being inept. Poor passing, missed opportunities to go forward, lack of self confidence in midfield, nervous, tense, and risky, poorly executed passes in the back four.
I don't have an issue with the tactical approach of keeping possession, but the execution of those tactics on Tuesday night was not acceptable if we have any ambition to progress in this league. It was pretty dire, and the 3 - 1 result does not reflect a good performance. We should all be clear about that, and those posters who weren't there should not focus purely on the result.
I'm hopeful that this team will succeed this season, but they will have to perform better as a team for that to happen.
There were a few boos / negative / insulting shouts near me on Tuesday night which I didn't agree with. But I understand why they were made.
Were you there?

 

[Barney]

I despise this "they pay their money; they can say what they like.." garbage. Most of us want to be entertained and back our team in a convivial, supportive atmosphere, not poisoned by Neanderthal lager drinking idiots who think their uneducated, simple-minded "views" have priority over everyone else's. They don't. We have too high a ratio of negative, amoeba brained twats amongst our fan base. They won't be satisfied until the ale house crap that is all they have ever known once again reigns supreme, Adkins football is consigned to history and we can be upanatem under Muckanettles Morgs.

Some of them are close to beyond belief (certainly outside the depths of S2) and certainly beneath contempt. Worst, thickest, vilest supporters in the land. A complete embarrassment.

*clap* *clap* *clap*

We should just tell them all they're playing wonderfully.

"Don't let them nasty men ruin your insightful backwards movement" The confetti raining down as they exit an embarrassing home defeat. Shortly followed by a big well done and a tea party for good measure.

You would think the players were toddlers the way some fans carry off. Not grown men getting payed a small fortune for playing football. If they can't take a bit of stick, they're in the wrong job.

What if they were to be told "You don't like the boo's? Fuck off and get an average job then" They would be scurrying around the ankles like fucking mice. The boo's wouldn't be such of an issue then, would they? It's pathetic, over sensitive, bollocks.

If you think a few boo's at a football match are worthy of naming your own fans "twats, vilest, thickest", then you really don't have much experience of life.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Am I entitled to inform them of my view that they are self-indulgent, ignorant, hoof-loving, single-celled cunts?...

Take a look around
Listen to the sound
Feel it to the ground
Fear has come in a wave
Just another gathering of helpless innocents forced into the grave
Listen to me now
Are you with me now
Can you tell me how these vultures still glorify them
Lets defy them

 

[MBoreman]

[QUOTE="RealMcCoy, post: 856645, member: 4318] Poor passing, missed opportunities to go forward, lack of self confidence in midfield, nervous, tense, and risky.
[/QUOTE]

...caused by the constant moaning and groaning from fans anytime something doesn't go perfectly.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

"Did anyone not boo Don Givens when he missed that penalty , or was it just a case of hard luck old chap you good for nothing wanker".

I think the state of disbelief of the consequences left most with chins on the floor , unable to breathe never mind boo

I remember being in a zombie like state for some time, like my life had ended
first thing I said was thats it never going again

went to every game home and away in div 4 enjoyed it immensely,

BTL , yep you are right . Stood on the kop and i think people could not believe we had missed a life line . Division 4 was unreal both home and away . Cannot remember but one home match did we get 28,000. ( Wigan ?)

With regards booing at the lane now , ok you do get some morons , but booing is just frustated passion . Good job we are not all italians and play in serie A. We then perhaps would not all be high handed , and condescending .

Whats the age group of this so called booing mob , now that we are a cultured club , playing cultured football . We only want cultured fans . More important things in life . Anyway at least Adkins has the right approach , and not on a high horse like some . Fucking hell lets join the Garrick club.

UTB

 

[mosbolad]

Whilst in his interview Adkins says something like you pay your money boo if you want to, (or something on those lines).

He also goes on to say the crowd need to make the players feel 12 foot tall, presumably this is not by booing if we fail to score every 5 minutes.

I certainly know I perform much better at work if there are a few folk stood behind me booing at every opportunity. It really lifts my spirits, boosts my productivity and enables me to work at a level I never thought possible.

I never boo. I did refuse to clap when Marvin King scored though, does that count?

 

[blade too long]

*clap* *clap* *clap*

We should just tell them all they're playing wonderfully.

"Don't let them nasty men ruin your insightful backwards movement"
If you think a few boo's at a football match are worthy of naming your own fans "twats, vilest, thickest", then you really don't have much experience of life.

just wondered what you do at work
would you get better at if people stand around you calling you a useless twat
if you turn up for work and people told you ,you werent fit to wear the overalls
you havent got a clue what your doing you wanker, whilst you were doing something

would that be acceptable to you
these are people with feelings , how much they get payed isnt even an issue

 

[blade too long]

BTL , yep you are right . Stood on the kop and i think people could not believe we had missed a life line . Division 4 was unreal both home and away . Cannot remember but one home match did we get 28,000. ( Wigan ?)

UTB

The highest average league attendance in the Fourth Division was 19,092, achieved by Crystal Palace in the 1960/61 season. The highest attendance at an individual match was recorded the same season: 37,774 for the Good Friday game at Selhurst Park between Crystal Palace and Millwall.[2]
where are palace now eh

that apart , I dont know how fans today say its a new low
they should have been at stockport in div 4 when we lost 1-0 (keeper was fouled but hey ho )and were mid table after 7 games having also lost to hull , luckiy we only lost 2 more all season
or 82 83 season back in div 3 when we finished 11th and averaged 11000 fans that was when you can moan , we were way shittier then
this team is glorious by comparison

 

[Revolution]

just wondered what you do at work
would you get better at if people stand around you calling you a useless twat
if you turn up for work and people told you ,you werent fit to wear the overalls
you havent got a clue what your doing you wanker, whilst you were doing something

would that be acceptable to you
these are people with feelings , how much they get payed isnt even an issue

Oh bollocks to that argument. It's not like other work.

We are told repeatedly that these players can't be kept if they don't want to stay. Contracts mean nothing.

Fine. Well donn't expect normal work conditions either. If you screw up, or you don't try, someone might boo you. Live with it.

I simply do not believe people who say they have never booed a United player despite attending for decades. If it is true, I think it's weird. Mind you, some of these people also like the current home kit so perhaps it's not surprising.

 

[Darren]

Oh bollocks to that argument. It's not like other work.

We are told repeatedly that these players can't be kept if they don't want to stay. Contracts mean nothing.

Fine. Well donn't expect normal work conditions either. If you screw up, or you don't try, someone might boo you. Live with it.

I simply do not believe people who say they have never booed a United player despite attending for decades. If it is true, I think it's weird. Mind you, some of these people also like the current home kit so perhaps it's not surprising.

I've been going for 40 odd years and I have never have. Can't see the point. If United play shit I just moan to whoever I am with.

 

[Revolution]

I've been going for 40 odd years and I have never have. Can't see the point. If United play shit I just moan to whoever I am with.

Fine. I think that's weird.

 

[Darren]

Fine. I think that's weird.

We all express our emotions in different ways. As my mum used to say, it would be a boring world if we were all the same.

 

[sitwell]

*clap* *clap* *clap*

We should just tell them all they're playing wonderfully.

"Don't let them nasty men ruin your insightful backwards movement" The confetti raining down as they exit an embarrassing home defeat. Shortly followed by a big well done and a tea party for good measure.

You would think the players were toddlers the way some fans carry off. Not grown men getting payed a small fortune for playing football. If they can't take a bit of stick, they're in the wrong job.

What if they were to be told "You don't like the boo's? Fuck off and get an average job then" They would be scurrying around the ankles like fucking mice. The boo's wouldn't be such of an issue then, would they? It's pathetic, over sensitive, bollocks.

If you think a few boo's at a football match are worthy of naming your own fans "twats, vilest, thickest", then you really don't have much experience of life.

This from a guy who after a bit of stick on a message board did the biggest flounce in flouncing history ,what a shame it didn't carry on.

 

[blade too long]

Oh bollocks to that argument. It's not like other work.

We are told repeatedly that these players can't be kept if they don't want to stay. Contracts mean nothing.
.

its not like any work true

but its work where the spectators are an integral part of the performance
I dont think man utd built a 76000 stadium to encourage booing the team

they did it for support and encouragement


I fear if we increase our capacity it will only increase the moans
Id boo a really bad performance at the end but not an individual, as we all get things wrong
in any form of work

 

[Barney]

This from a guy who after a bit of stick on a message board did the biggest flounce in flouncing history ,what a shame it didn't carry on.

Who linked the stick I get to the flounce? Must be you because I didn't. It had nothing to with anything that get's posted to me, and if you read the thread it specifically mentions the fact that I, myself couldn't see the point in posting negatively for the sake of it. Some need to stop thinking they're that influential I actually think about, let alone take to heart what's said on an internet forum. If it makes you feel more important though, then you're quite free to carry on with that mindset.

 

[bornablade]

The players are far too sensitive. They're only booing the home kit. Everything'll be dead right next season.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Hesitate to get into a discussion with you Pinchy, but I think you are missing the point of what happened on Tuesday.
Firstly, I should state that I don't think anyone should ever boo. Ever.
Secondly, I don't think the boos were against "possession football" which I think is an emerging theme here and on other threads, and ( I think ) what you seem to be objecting to. It would be a mistake to think that Tuesday night was a good demonstration of possession football.
There wasn't that much booing, but enough, certainly during the first half, to be heard, and to be an issue that deserves discussion.
Despite the score, the team performance was very very poor. The Fleetwood performance was even worse than ours, by a long way. The Blades performance was negative ( not just about keeping possession) to the point of being inept. Poor passing, missed opportunities to go forward, lack of self confidence in midfield, nervous, tense, and risky, poorly executed passes in the back four.
I don't have an issue with the tactical approach of keeping possession, but the execution of those tactics on Tuesday night was not acceptable if we have any ambition to progress in this league. It was pretty dire, and the 3 - 1 result does not reflect a good performance. We should all be clear about that, and those posters who weren't there should not focus purely on the result.
I'm hopeful that this team will succeed this season, but they will have to perform better as a team for that to happen.
There were a few boos / negative / insulting shouts near me on Tuesday night which I didn't agree with. But I understand why they were made.
Were you there?

That's pretty much spot on in my opinion. I'd just add that there are a few idiots who are totally clueless but much is from frustration at the poor play. It's easy to spot when the volume goes up.

As ever though the exaggeration levels are boosted up. The lack of atmosphere means the booing sounds particularly loud but some make it sound like it's half the ground. Then we have the " lets tell them we are playing wonderfully" comment, albeit tongue in cheek no one has suggested that at all, or anything close to it, but it's a forum sound bite. The opinion that it was the booing that resulted in the turn around for the second half is another example. Same as calling someone "vile" for booing (if that has in fact been said)

 

[Sean Thornton]

Oh bollocks to that argument. It's not like other work.

We are told repeatedly that these players can't be kept if they don't want to stay. Contracts mean nothing.

Fine. Well donn't expect normal work conditions either. If you screw up, or you don't try, someone might boo you. Live with it.

I simply do not believe people who say they have never booed a United player despite attending for decades. If it is true, I think it's weird. Mind you, some of these people also like the current home kit so perhaps it's not surprising.

Believe it or not I've booed a United player once. As did many others at the time as Paul Richardson was sent off for deliberately kicking a player in the face while they were both on the floor.

For being useless, no, but I've moaned and efffed and blinded at the players and the team.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Fine. I think that's weird.

Hesitate to get into a discussion with you Pinchy, but I think you are missing the point of what happened on Tuesday.
Firstly, I should state that I don't think anyone should ever boo. Ever.
Secondly, I don't think the boos were against "possession football" which I think is an emerging theme here and on other threads, and ( I think ) what you seem to be objecting to. It would be a mistake to think that Tuesday night was a good demonstration of possession football.
There wasn't that much booing, but enough, certainly during the first half, to be heard, and to be an issue that deserves discussion.
Despite the score, the team performance was very very poor. The Fleetwood performance was even worse than ours, by a long way. The Blades performance was negative ( not just about keeping possession) to the point of being inept. Poor passing, missed opportunities to go forward, lack of self confidence in midfield, nervous, tense, and risky, poorly executed passes in the back four.
I don't have an issue with the tactical approach of keeping possession, but the execution of those tactics on Tuesday night was not acceptable if we have any ambition to progress in this league. It was pretty dire, and the 3 - 1 result does not reflect a good performance. We should all be clear about that, and those posters who weren't there should not focus purely on the result.
I'm hopeful that this team will succeed this season, but they will have to perform better as a team for that to happen.
There were a few boos / negative / insulting shouts near me on Tuesday night which I didn't agree with. But I understand why they were made.
Were you there?

I absolutely disagree with this post. I think we did play good possession football on Tuesday night. It was not thrilling to watch but the fact we had the early goal meant it was very effective. After that, we wore Fleetwood down by playing keep ball and then every so often, briefly stepped it up a gear to give them a problem. In return, they caused us very few problems.

People criticize our lack of creativity and skill on the ball in central midfield and at the same time put the opposition’s failure to cause us problems down to them being shit. I suggest it is no coincidence that the opposition looked so shit in a game where we played 2 combative, solid midfielders to protect our back four.


If we’d played Coutts and Baxter in there instead, we would have had more creativity and more forward passing but I guarantee the opposition wouldn’t have looked nearly as shit as they did.


We completely nullified them. We sacrificed some creativity to do that but we still had enough to get 3 goals.


My concern is how effectively we’ll be able to do that if we don’t score in the first minute.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I absolutely disagree with this post. I think we did play good possession football on Tuesday night. It was not thrilling to watch but the fact we had the early goal meant it was very effective. After that, we wore Fleetwood down by playing keep ball and then every so often, briefly stepped it up a gear to give them a problem. In return, they caused us very few problems.

People criticize our lack of creativity and skill on the ball in central midfield and at the same time put the opposition’s failure to cause us problems down to them being shit. I suggest it is no coincidence that the opposition looked so shit in a game where we played 2 combative, solid midfielders to protect our back four.


If we’d played Coutts and Baxter in there instead, we would have had more creativity and more forward passing but I guarantee the opposition wouldn’t have looked nearly as shit as they did.


We completely nullified them. We sacrificed some creativity to do that but we still had enough to get 3 goals.


My concern is how effectively we’ll be able to do that if we don’t score in the first minute.

First half we gave the ball away cheaply as many times as we managed to retain possession. It was dire. There was a lot of moaning and groaning about it. Plus the odd boo and the bloke a couple of rows in front of me was able to shout "sort it out Adkins" ( like he did with Clough) earlier than usual giving JCR a break for ten or so minutes.

Fleetwood were poor and second half hardly put us under any pressure. While Coutts made himself some space for his keep ball - which to be fair he did better than anyone else - I wonder if he'd have gone from zero to hero this week had he had a combatative player marking him a bit more closely although to be fair to Fleetwood, they were probably unaware he could make more than one ten yard dash in a game.

 

[MBoreman]

It's simple in my eyes. There is absolutely no justification for booing, it benefits no one. As a supporter you want the team to play well. Vocal support massively aids this while vocal negativity does the opposite. Why would you ever bother to boo the team you want to do well? If you want to be negative (overly in most people's case) say it to who you're with (assuming they aren't already sick of your misinformed views on football) at a normal noise level, or later on on here. Never at the game.

 

[Ashtonsmashton]

I've only booed once. At I think half time at gillingham, but I promise never to do it again

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Believe it or not I've booed a United player once. As did many others at the time as Paul Richardson was sent off for deliberately kicking a player in the face while they were both on the floor.

For being useless, no, but I've moaned and efffed and blinded at the players and the team.

Actually I think I booed Dave Barnes for getting sent off for kicking the ball away against the advertising hoardings; think it was a second yellow? He was very stupid and un-professional.

Happened in front of the Sources h stand near the Lane end.

 

[HillmortonBlade]

but booing is just frustated passion

Mixed with a considerable bit of footballing ignorance by some (not yourself I hasten to add LBoE)

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Actually I think I booed Dave Barnes for getting sent off for kicking the ball away against the advertising hoardings; think it was a second yellow? He was very stupid and un-professional.

Happened in front of the Sources h stand near the Lane end.

Sources h????

South stand you stupid ipad

 

[Blade56]

Few extra boo-ers need to out themselves after today no doubt

 

[super_pig]

Who linked the stick I get to the flounce? Must be you because I didn't. It had nothing to with anything that get's posted to me, and if you read the thread it specifically mentions the fact that I, myself couldn't see the point in posting negatively for the sake of it. Some need to stop thinking they're that influential I actually think about, let alone take to heart what's said on an internet forum. If it makes you feel more important though, then you're quite free to carry on with that mindset.

err.. boys.. don't turn on each other.. we're all in this shit together

 

[PeteBlade]

Few extra boo-ers need to out themselves after today no doubt

Those that can't tell the difference between booing during a 3-0 victory and booing after losing to bottom of the league are a tad... Silly.