CONFIRMED Bogle to Leeds United

[CaptainMorgans]

Yeah but he’s wank past the half way line.

Agree and even in a quieter game for Bogle, he was still involved in 3 or 4 of our better moves. He's very positive in his play, the run be made to the byline which he nearly scored from, defender cleared his little chip off the line, later in the game he attacks the box and his left footed shot was heading in but for hitting MGW on the way. He also made a couple of decent crosses / incisive passes into the box.

I'm surprised people have been marking him so low for today's performance, I thought he offered a lot and on another day at least one of those contributions would have been decisive.

 

[bertieblade]

Boggle was not really tested as a right back and it is subsequently difficult to judge his defensive performance but he was out of position on a number of occasions being too far inside which meant MGW had to race back.
looked reasonable going forward but there were a number of instances in the second half when he could have knocked the ball down the line to MGW which would have given him a one v one, but chose to check back inside, usually knocking the ball to Norwood who took a number of touches before switching play and losing the attacking momentum.

 

[Bladesman]

MGW covering for him a fair bit yesterday.

Bogle I just think is more of an attacking player really. Not even sure he is much of a RWB.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

MGW covering for him a fair bit yesterday.

Bogle I just think is more of an attacking player really. Not even sure he is much of a RWB.

Hear what you're saying, but how many attacks have our full backs killed this year with their lack of quality?
They always seem to be the players in space and as Roygbiv pointed out on the podcast, teams have seemed happy to just allow Baldock & RND time and space on the ball as they know they're incapable of hurting them.

I think there were some positive signs of link up with Bogle yesterday and he at least gives the opposition something to worry about.

 

[bertieblade]

Hear what you're saying, but how many attacks have our full backs killed this year with their lack of quality?
They always seem to be the players in space and as Roygbiv pointed out on the podcast, teams have seemed happy to just allow Baldock & RND time and space on the ball as they know they're incapable of hurting them.

I think there were some positive signs of link up with Bogle yesterday and he at least gives the opposition something to worry about.

But the fact he is played as a full back, one would expect him to have an idea of his defensive responsibilities.

 

[Deadly_D'Jaffo]

He looked knackered last 20 minutes but dug deep.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

But the fact he is played as a full back, one would expect him to have an idea of his defensive responsibilities.

Completely get what you're saying and it's all about finding which one adds the best NET benefit to the team. We all know Baldock can defend and can't attack and Bogle the opposite.

But which one of the weaknesses can we cover for most easily and which ones strengths add the most?
I've just lost patience with seeing Baldock check back, or put a poor delivery in. I think it sucks so much momentum out of our attacks. He is very institutionalised by the Wilder way of playing.

The other factor is age. Bogle can improve his defending, he's still a kid in footballing terms (younger than Ndiaye). Baldock looks like he's peaked and his attacking hasn't got any better in a few seasons.

 

[Snowflake]

Boggle was not really tested as a right back and it is subsequently difficult to judge his defensive performance but he was out of position on a number of occasions being too far inside which meant MGW had to race back.
looked reasonable going forward but there were a number of instances in the second half when he could have knocked the ball down the line to MGW which would have given him a one v one, but chose to check back inside, usually knocking the ball to Norwood who took a number of touches before switching play and losing the attacking momentum.

Wow. I could have written exactly this.
Just as I saw his performance yesterday.

 

[Kop sufferer]

Completely get what you're saying and it's all about finding which one adds the best NET benefit to the team. We all know Baldock can defend and can't attack and Bogle the opposite.

But which one of the weaknesses can we cover for most easily and which ones strengths add the most?
I've just lost patience with seeing Baldock check back, or put a poor delivery in. I think it sucks so much momentum out of our attacks. He is very institutionalised by the Wilder way of playing.

The other factor is age. Bogle can improve his defending, he's still a kid in footballing terms (younger than Ndiaye). Baldock looks like he's peaked and his attacking hasn't got any better in a few seasons.

Yes, it's all a bit of a dilemma, for me Bogle's instinct is a natural desire to get forward and join in the overload, which is great, but, he needs to be selective when doing that, up to now he's got away with it, but for how long? So long as he's at full back when he should be and not in the opposition 6 yard box it's an OK for me.

 

[bongleblade]

MGW covering for him a fair bit yesterday.

Bogle I just think is more of an attacking player really. Not even sure he is much of a RWB.

For this reason i would like to see us test him in the right attacking midfield role in cup games, with a view to replacing MGW if he does leave, or as backup there at minimum.

Bogle succeeding there could allow a pretty lethal combination up top:

RAM: Bogle/MGW CAM: Ndiaye/Didzy LAM: Osborn/Freeman

 

[Mojo]

Attacking play is light years ahead of Baldock. He actually puts some whip on his crosses which is nice

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

Attacking play is light years ahead of Baldock. He actually puts some whip on his crosses which is nice

Thought he looked excellent going forward and its not as if he is poor defending

Can only get better if he stays in the team its a shame we have two top Right backs as one will have to miss out

Id give Bogle a run in the team as he deserves a chance to show why we signed him

 

[bertieblade]

Suggest he is taught what is expected of him as a full back before we think he us the answer. His positional sense is terrible, never has a clue where his opponent is a was bailed out on at least two occasions by MGW when he went on walk about.
offers something when going forward but needs to learn when to play people in, ie release MGW when he has space.
his first job however is to defend in a flat four abd he has a lot to learn

 

[Tarqs]

He is better than Baldock going forward, but he wasn't great at all. Received the ball and rarely progressed forward with the ball, seems we've coached him like everyone else that we have to pass to Norwood all the time.

In fact this isn't even criticism of Bogle as everyone seems to have norwood syndrome. So many occasions in that match where a quick spread of play had us in acres down either flank, but for some reason rather than 1 pass, we take 5 to get there and only norwood can play that final pass...

Bizarre really.

Back to Bogle, got into 2/3 great positions first half and his delivery was terrible, did nearly score twice though.

 

[Le Cynique]

I still think he’s more a right winger or right-sided AM than a full-back or even a wing-back.

 

[Slim Man]

To counteract my negative spin on Wes with an opposite one with Bogle - what a turnaround. He’s been like Cafu since Wilder came back.

Even when he makes a mistake - he is the one that puts it right. No one else.

From that Liverpool game he’s been one of the best full backs in this division and exactly what I expected to see when we signed him.

It begs the question: what on gods fucking green earth was Hecky instructing him to do every week?

Tie him down to a new contract and do it now. The way he’s playing you have to speculate to accumulate, throw caution to the wind and let Baldock go for a decent fee. He’s playing that well.

 

[1987]

Become the first name on the sheet for defence currently. Could argue it was his man for the first goal, but think he ended up covering so had 2, cruel deflection.

 

[Hamandcheese]

He's become a priority to get signed up

First of all he's stayed fit. On top of that, he seems in especially good shape. On top of that, he's playing well, pretty consistently

I also think he should stay. We're the right club for him

I'd make the difficult decision to let Baldock go. He's injured too much, and may well fancy a change. That should allow us to commit more to Bogle

We still need to aim to have 2 strong RWBs though, not just 1

If we get Bogle and McBurnie sorted in addition to other players we have under contract, suddenly our prospects next season look excellent

 

[MojoMuffin]

The irony of this is that you've rinsed Wes in the other thread when it was Bogle who left Cornet completely unmarked for the first goal .

Agree with you though. Top player and we should tie him down as soon as possible.

 

[Karaoke Blade]

The irony of this is that you've rinsed Wes in the other thread when it was Bogle who left Cornet completely unmarked for the first goal .

Agree with you though. Top player and we should tie him down as soon as possible.

Wicked deflection, so I'd cut him a bit of slack on this occasion. Otherwise a very good performance.

 

[Pintor75]

Agree, baldock isn't half the player this season, maybe dreaming of a Greek move and a bit of sun to boot is on his mind, I'd let him go, Bogle has claimed the shirt for me

 

[ThatJa]

Baffling couple of posts from yourself today.

Bogle who left his man (Cornet) is getting praise

Wes who got beat because Bogle left his man is getting stick.

 

[Slim Man]

The irony of this is that you've rinsed Wes in the other thread when it was Bogle who left Cornet completely unmarked for the first goal .

Agree with you though. Top player and we should tie him down as soon as possible.

As spoken about above, he had two to look after as we’d shifted left. I’d 100% say Wes was more to blame than Bogle for it

 

[Slim Man]

Baffling couple of posts from yourself today.

Bogle who left his man (Cornet) is getting praise

Wes who got beat because Bogle left his man is getting stick.

Bogle was brilliant. Wes wasn’t.
He was also watching Bowen.

It’s really that simple.

 

[Gerritforud]

Agree, baldock isn't half the player this season, maybe dreaming of a Greek move and a bit of sun to boot is on his mind, I'd let him go, Bogle has claimed the shirt for me

WTF? Baldock hasn't put a foot wrong other than pick up injury.

 

[Slim Man]

Agree, baldock isn't half the player this season, maybe dreaming of a Greek move and a bit of sun to boot is on his mind, I'd let him go, Bogle has claimed the shirt for me

Can’t fault him. So am I

 

[MojoMuffin]

As spoken about above, he had two to look after as we’d shifted left. I’d 100% say Wes was more to blame than Bogle for it

He went to mark Bowen when Anel was there.

I rate him massively though, despite the lapse in concentration. It's just a typical scruffy goal that we've been conceding this season. I do welcome Grbic coming in.

 

[andy m]

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He went to mark Bowen when Anel was there.

I rate him massively though, despite the lapse in concentration. It's just a typical scruffy goal that we've been conceding this season. I do welcome Grbic coming in.

Everyone was trying to reset following Hamers pathetic attempt at a tackle on Ings.

 

[Flatcap]

Gave the ball away twice today and made sure he won it back immediately on both occasions. Massively improved.

 

[loveWalrusDaveTheBlade]

The irony of this is that you've rinsed Wes in the other thread when it was Bogle who left Cornet completely unmarked for the first goal .

Agree with you though. Top player and we should tie him down as soon as possible.

Joined up thinking is probably a step too far...