Blades players out on the beer (again)

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pommpey said:
Couldn't give a shit about them being out on the lash.

The season is over now, and hopefully many of them will be out of a job come July.

If we were up at the top or battling it out ion the playoffs, then fair enuff. But it's probably a goodbye to Billy and Ched as their undisclosed have already been agreed by McCabe and they are offski pretty soon.

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We have signed Ched again and already selling him?
 
Dont begrudge them a few beers as long as they dont act like big time Charlies.
 
Whose never had a beer after a day's work?
Seriously?
Going off as if they shouldn't be allowed to.

If it affects their performance then that's a club discipline issue and should be dealt with accordingly but no one can begrudge someone going out for a drink.

After a day at work (rubbish or otherwise), how many people have thought - I'll grab a beer and put my feet up. Or if a group of mates have arranged a night out? Who thinks...."nah, you're alright lads it's, Saturday night, I'd rather watch the X factor" :rolleyes:
 
Clarkey87 said:
Whose never had a beer after a day's work?
Seriously?
Going off as if they shouldn't be allowed to.

If it affects their performance then that's a club discipline issue and should be dealt with accordingly but no one can begrudge someone going out for a drink.

After a day at work (rubbish or otherwise), how many people have thought - I'll grab a beer and put my feet up. Or if a group of mates have arranged a night out? Who thinks...."nah, you're alright lads it's, Saturday night, I'd rather watch the X factor" :rolleyes:
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They could have watched the Masters...

For the money they are on, I don't think it's unreasonable to prevent them from drinking alcohol during the season.
 
S12 Blade said:
They could have watched the Masters...

For the money they are on, I don't think it's unreasonable to prevent them from drinking alcohol during the season.
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True, and it could be put into contracts but for morale purposes, I doubt many, if any teams, would do something like that because some players won't then want to play for that club.
Sad but it will be true.

Especially due to the lifestyles that surround footballers these days.
 
Clarkey87 said:
True, and it could be put into contracts but for morale purposes, I doubt many, if any teams, would do something like that because some players won't then want to play for that club.
Sad but it will be true.

Especially due to the lifestyles that surround footballers these days.
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I heard the other day that a lot of players have clauses in their contract that they can't drink within 48 hours of a game. As you say, it would be difficult to insist on total abstinence.

In this case, I think if the club chooses to have its award night during the season it's not realistic to expect the players not to drink.

I've got mixed feelings on drinking during the season, having heard several ex players talking about it recently on various radio programmes. Heavy drinking is not conducive to being a profession athlete but football is a team game and the occasional night out probably helps with bonding. I also heard someone like Stewart Robson saying he used to dwell on games afterwards and a pint or so with his mates would help him get it out of his head and focus on future games.

So I think the occasional drink is acceptable but never binge drinking because of the damage it can do, short and long term. I think Wenger once said he'd rather players smoke than drink, which speaks for itself.
 
ChipButtyBlade said:
Its a culture in Britain for most people to get pissed at weekends,footballers included.

Maybe we should sign more Spanish,Italien,Portuguese players who do look after themselves better,their countries dont have "piss up" cultures.
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Happened to read this yesterday about how the US's most successful basketball team go about things. Very interesting article -

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15172706/the-warriors-secret-sauce-team-dinners-road

I honestly think we can learn a lot from other sports to effect marginal improvements (especially from American basketball, I'd say - their training practices are far, far ahead of those in English football).

When we look at what we could maybe take from other sports, usually it's trivialities & money-making practices (cheerleaders, razamatazz, etc), but far more useful would be studying what brings them success as teams. There's a lot we could learn.
 
Alfreton14Blade said:
Happened to read this yesterday about how the US's most successful basketball team go about things. Very interesting article -

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15172706/the-warriors-secret-sauce-team-dinners-road

I honestly think we can learn a lot from other sports to effect marginal improvements (especially from American basketball, I'd say - their training practices are far, far ahead of those in English football).

When we look at what we could maybe take from other sports, usually it's trivialities & money-making practices (cheerleaders, razamatazz, etc), but far more useful would be studying what brings them success as teams. There's a lot we could learn.
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On the other hand;

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-...ootball-alasdair-lane?redirectFromSplash=true
 
BushBlade said:
On the other hand;

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-...ootball-alasdair-lane?redirectFromSplash=true
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Yeah, I remember reading that at the time. And it is an interesting article.

But it's unnecessarily negative in writing off marginal gains thinking as a "current fad" and in seeing it as inapplicable to football because of football's somehow "unique" culture.

"Thinking outside the box" to try & achieve competitive advantages? - got to be a good thing, & hardly inevitable that it'll lead to "burn out" amongst coaches/managers if they can't get their innovations to work all the time.
 



BushBlade said:
On the other hand;

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-...ootball-alasdair-lane?redirectFromSplash=true
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Brilliant article Bush.

Adkins spent time in the states studying sports pyhcology in baseball , American football , basketball. Marginal gains are important and that article is excellent and shows how blinkered , with tunnel vision football mangers are.

I thought Adkins lived in ga ga land and was a bit off the wall with his mad cap thinking . Maybe we have finally found the right man , but he does need time . We have fucked it up before so let's give him a chance .
 
Lord Bos of Eckington. said:
Brilliant article Bush.

Adkins spent time in the states studying sports pyhcology in baseball , American football , basketball. Marginal gains are important and that article is excellent and shows how blinkered , with tunnel vision football mangers are.

I thought Adkins lived in ga ga land and was a bit off the wall with his mad cap thinking . Maybe we have finally found the right man , but he does need time . We have fucked it up before so let's give him a chance .
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There's a lot of money being made by charlatans who are claiming to have reinvented the wheel.
Fundamentally, that's why the big clubs are slipping and the likes of Spurs and Leicester are at the top of the league whilst Villa are going down.
 
Higgo's Belly said:
I was out on Carver Street at one o'clock this morning when I bumped into four of our first team. I bet most of you can guess a couple straight away. Yes, McGahey and Adams were there, along with Woolford and Sharp.
Now I'm no killjoy, however I have certain reservations about the sense of this. Our season had just ended that day, but it doesn't seem to mean enough to our players, for it to interfere with their more important need to party. With the amount of disappointment around, about how this season has turned out and the current bad feeling towards the majority of our current team, was this a sensible move ?. Should Adkins not be advising players about public perception, or is this just another example of his lack of discipline and the players lack of respect for Adkins, fans and the club. Do Adkins and the players never learn. There was the night out earlier in the season involving McGahey and Adams, when they turned up the worse for wear at training the next day, not to mention the Christamas party club trip to Dublin fiasco, involving Baxter. Only last week there ware the alleged comments made by Basham about Adkins, while again the worse for wear.
I
know it was the awards evening after the game yesterday, but with Adkins insisting the play offs are still a possibility, having the players in for training on Sunday would have been more productive than sanctioning a night on the lash. Not exactly good preparation for the next game at Chesterfield, however I suppose in the case of Woolford and McGahey they are unlikely to be involved, so there's no problem them spending the several thousands a week Utd pay them for their services, as they should choose to do so.The players should concentrate on improving as players, giving their all for the last few games, rather than acting as big time charlies whenever they can. Its not a lot to ask, the seasons nearly over and then they can all go off on their holidays for several months.
I'm curious to see if anyone else saw the players as well and if anyone thinks I'm being too harsh
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I am with you on this criticism. My two sons were treated badly by two professional clubs at their COE's when they were giving there all in training playing diet; working hard doing well in matches then we realised its not about those factors to get a pro contract its about who one knows; coaches "fancying yer" ; managers pushing you up the ladder and some spozy luck like having one good game for the reserves whilst gaffer happens to have turned up. After that many current full time pros are techically poor than may part time semis pro's with full time jobs.............I can find many better players in the National Leagues (old Conference) better than the above 4 who just got lucky and are resting on their laurels having achieved not a lot in the pro game but have earned a decent living by being ordinary......generally speaking many pro's lack intelligence and worldly ness so these public misdemeanours will always crop up. Its not very bright to go to Carver St. where they will be seen rather than out in the stick up country some where. Role models .......what!!!!
 
Higgo's Belly said:
I was out on Carver Street at one o'clock this morning when I bumped into four of our first team. I bet most of you can guess a couple straight away. Yes, McGahey and Adams were there, along with Woolford and Sharp.
Now I'm no killjoy, however I have certain reservations about the sense of this. Our season had just ended that day, but it doesn't seem to mean enough to our players, for it to interfere with their more important need to party. With the amount of disappointment around, about how this season has turned out and the current bad feeling towards the majority of our current team, was this a sensible move ?. Should Adkins not be advising players about public perception, or is this just another example of his lack of discipline and the players lack of respect for Adkins, fans and the club. Do Adkins and the players never learn. There was the night out earlier in the season involving McGahey and Adams, when they turned up the worse for wear at training the next day, not to mention the Christamas party club trip to Dublin fiasco, involving Baxter. Only last week there ware the alleged comments made by Basham about Adkins, while again the worse for wear.
I
know it was the awards evening after the game yesterday, but with Adkins insisting the play offs are still a possibility, having the players in for training on Sunday would have been more productive than sanctioning a night on the lash. Not exactly good preparation for the next game at Chesterfield, however I suppose in the case of Woolford and McGahey they are unlikely to be involved, so there's no problem them spending the several thousands a week Utd pay them for their services, as they should choose to do so.The players should concentrate on improving as players, giving their all for the last few games, rather than acting as big time charlies whenever they can. Its not a lot to ask, the seasons nearly over and then they can all go off on their holidays for several months.
I'm curious to see if anyone else saw the players as well and if anyone thinks I'm being too harsh
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not bothered if we haven't got a game Sunday can't see the problem tbh
 
Higgo's Belly said:
I was out on Carver Street at one o'clock this morning when I bumped into four of our first team. I bet most of you can guess a couple straight away. Yes, McGahey and Adams were there, along with Woolford and Sharp.
Now I'm no killjoy, however I have certain reservations about the sense of this. Our season had just ended that day, but it doesn't seem to mean enough to our players, for it to interfere with their more important need to party. With the amount of disappointment around, about how this season has turned out and the current bad feeling towards the majority of our current team, was this a sensible move ?. Should Adkins not be advising players about public perception, or is this just another example of his lack of discipline and the players lack of respect for Adkins, fans and the club. Do Adkins and the players never learn. There was the night out earlier in the season involving McGahey and Adams, when they turned up the worse for wear at training the next day, not to mention the Christamas party club trip to Dublin fiasco, involving Baxter. Only last week there ware the alleged comments made by Basham about Adkins, while again the worse for wear.
I
know it was the awards evening after the game yesterday, but with Adkins insisting the play offs are still a possibility, having the players in for training on Sunday would have been more productive than sanctioning a night on the lash. Not exactly good preparation for the next game at Chesterfield, however I suppose in the case of Woolford and McGahey they are unlikely to be involved, so there's no problem them spending the several thousands a week Utd pay them for their services, as they should choose to do so.The players should concentrate on improving as players, giving their all for the last few games, rather than acting as big time charlies whenever they can. Its not a lot to ask, the seasons nearly over and then they can all go off on their holidays for several months.
I'm curious to see if anyone else saw the players as well and if anyone thinks I'm being too harsh
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yes, you're being too harsh - though replies to your post did lead me to learn of Matt Done's silver slippers - so there was an upside.
 
We may be playing crap, but you cant dictate what players do in their own time, who cares, as long as they arent going out and getting pilled up like Jose, i couldnt give a fuck what they do in their private lives.
 
Dellas Cowboys said:
yes, you're being too harsh - though replies to your post did lead me to learn of Matt Done's silver slippers - so there was an upside.
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Do silver slippers fit with the jumper over the shoulder look? And will it work in Barry's Bar?
 
DOC PACE WAS MY DAD said:
I am with you on this criticism. My two sons were treated badly by two professional clubs at their COE's when they were giving there all in training playing diet; working hard doing well in matches then we realised its not about those factors to get a pro contract its about who one knows; coaches "fancying yer" ; managers pushing you up the ladder and some spozy luck like having one good game for the reserves whilst gaffer happens to have turned up. After that many current full time pros are techically poor than may part time semis pro's with full time jobs.............I can find many better players in the National Leagues (old Conference) better than the above 4 who just got lucky and are resting on their laurels having achieved not a lot in the pro game but have earned a decent living by being ordinary......generally speaking many pro's lack intelligence and worldly ness so these public misdemeanours will always crop up. Its not very bright to go to Carver St. where they will be seen rather than out in the stick up country some where. Role models .......what!!!!
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and this is exactley what is happening at united............the do we like him enough to let him have a go clique.

This is a real shame for some of the talent we have and we could seriously bring on ( improve) but Adkins is the man that speaks with forked tongue.
Its a case of the old boys network with Adkins, but without his coaches at his side he is clueless.Watch him at the next match looking at Crosby & co for guidance.
 
Glyn Hodges left foot said:
Most footballers are normal people who dont go round grooming and fingering 15 year old girls.
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But you said you didn't give a fuck what they did in their private lives. Adam Johnson fingered a 15 year old girl and he didn't do it publicly. If that had been a Blades player would you have given a fuck? :)
 
Glyn Hodges left foot said:
We may be playing crap, but you cant dictate what players do in their own time, who cares, as long as they arent going out and getting pilled up like Jose, i couldnt give a fuck what they do in their private lives.
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I'd agree with this up to a point. However, like it or not they are (relatively anyway) high profile people. Whether you play for us or the massive, chances are that on a night out you are going to run into a bellend who has had a few too many sherberts and fancies making a name for themselves.

Furthermore, especially in this Social Media age, they are at all times ambassadors for the club. Yes that might be a pain in the arse but they are in priveleged positions, and those positions come with a degree of responsibility.
 



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