Blades Managers - Trend Spotting

[davidpinder]

Robson: given the resources he had, I would put him below everyone except Adams and Weir.

Sorry Darren i would have nobody below Weir. This is league 1 don't forget and he now and nearly changed the full team.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Funny how nobody spotted this 4 months ago when Weir was appointed.

Everybody was wanking themselves silly about how brilliant he was despite having absolutely no experience.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Funny how nobody spotted this 4 months ago when Weir was appointed.

Everybody was wanking themselves silly about how brilliant he was despite having absolutely no experience.

I wasn't. I said the same 4 months ago.
I wish he would buck the trend but I can't see it happening.

 

[KenMcnaughtsNuts]

Hell no. Adams was a disaster for us.

Adams and Weir share similarities in terms of their on-pitch success as United manager(!) but there's a key difference: Weir knows what he wants to do but can't get it to work whereas with "Alehouse" Adams, I never got the feeling that he had a clue what he was doing.

I'm probably in a very small minority but if it was my choice between Adams and Weir, I'd take Weir...but I'd tell him to get on the phone to Walter Smith and offer him a job as Assistant Manager (Experience).

Well it's all relative, cos i wouldn't have hired Adams, Wilson, Robson, Weir or Blackwell in the first place. I'd have hired Mr Blobby ahead of most of em.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

I've made a few of the suggested tweaks and added the level that each of our managers started their managerial career at:

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When appointing an experienced manager, those that started at the lowest levels have done best (again with Adams being the only notable exception).

So based on United's recent history our next manager should be experienced, previously successful and have started learning his trade in non-league.

Evans (Rotherham) and Cox (Mansfield) spring to my mind.

Ok, so applying the criteria that have given us successful managers in the past.
Who should United be looking at this time?

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

Russell Slade must figure pretty high then SB

 

[Sothall_Blade]

I'd say Russell Slade was Medium, Low, 2nd, High and put him 7th between Robinson and Barker

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

I'd say Russell Slade was Medium, Low, 2nd, High and put him 7th between Robinson and Barker

Medium experience? 600+ games makes that high for me.
Medium success
First proper job was non-league
Knowledge of league is high.

Makes him 3rd or 4th for me

 

[super_pig]

i think you must have it in for Porterfield.. he'd just got Rotherham promoted to the old division 2 when he joined us in division 4 winning two promotions

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Medium experience? 600+ games makes that high for me.
Medium success
First proper job was non-league
Knowledge of league is high.

Makes him 3rd or 4th for me

I looked at the wrong stats for experience. You're right about that one.
He's not won anything, no promotions or even play-offs as far as I'm aware. That's a low success rating for me.
He had around 30 games as caretaker manager in the second tier. I'd call that his starting point.
So Medium - Low - 2nd - High. Still slightly below Robinson for me. Sorry ;-)

 

[Sothall_Blade]

i think you must have it in for Porterfield.. he'd just got Rotherham promoted to the old division 2 when he joined us in division 4 winning two promotions

I've ranked him our 3rd best manager. I'm not sure which bit you disagree with?

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

For a little bit of balance stick the time in the job beside them all. Bassett and Warnock both had years at the club. kendall, wilson, bruce and blackwell all had more than a sesson. Adams, speed, spackman, weir, Thompson, Heath and Robson all had months.

Perhaps the answer is time?

If time was the answer Div 4 was the result

 

[BladeFisher]

For a little bit of balance stick the time in the job beside them all. Bassett and Warnock both had years at the club. kendall, wilson, bruce and blackwell all had more than a sesson. Adams, speed, spackman, weir, Thompson, Heath and Robson all had months.

Perhaps the answer is time?

Not when you haven't won in 10 games and you're bottom of the league and lost twice to 4rh division opposition. I would say Weir was given too much time.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

I looked at the wrong stats for experience. You're right about that one.
He's not won anything, no promotions or even play-offs as far as I'm aware. That's a low success rating for me.
He had around 30 games as caretaker manager in the second tier. I'd call that his starting point.
So Medium - Low - 2nd - High. Still slightly below Robinson for me. Sorry ;-)

Lost two play-off finals. Performed a minor miracle keeping Scarborough in the conference and Orient punch above their weight constantly and he did a decent job at Notts C. Caretaker doesn't really count, no real pressure responsibility, so his non-league stuff is the beginning. I still have him 4th

 

[LardSardine]

Since Heath we've been on an up-down-up-down course in terms of managers and their 'success'.

Discounting 'acting' managers (Carver, Morgan) we've had:

Heath
Warnock
Robson
Blackwell
Speed
Adams
Wilson
Weir

I'd say Heath, Robson, Adams and Weir were all disastrous. Warnock, Blackwell and Wilson at least got us winning more than we lost, regardless of how you view their relative 'success' in the job. That means we're due a 'decent' manager according to the pattern!

Speed is the odd one out having a below average win rate.