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How do I force my view down the necks of others? A lot of that post is largely hot air, basically saying an opinion is worth more the longer you've been posting, which I think most others would agree, is complete bollocks.

You do that by repeating exactly the same thing time and time again, which is my main objection to most of the stuff you post. We know you think Adkins is the anti-Christ, no need to say it on every thread, it's unnecessary. You also overlook the fact that (and I usually hate this expression) this is a community and people will react to respected and longtime posters such as Silent being attacked, not for the first time by you.

You will eventually disprove your own theory that an opinion becomes more valid the longer a poster has been on here. A poster might become more respected which is quite different, but I doubt that's going to happen in your case. Coincidentally, brownie's an excellent case in point, I've watched him grow up over about 15 years on various SUFC messageboards, through jobs, marriage, fatherhood, divorce. Mind you, he used to be a right little gobshite :-)

If you're right about most others agreeing with you by the way, you'll get hundreds of likes.
 

How do I force my view down the necks of others? A lot of that post is largely hot air, basically saying an opinion is worth more the longer you've been posting, which I think most others would agree, is complete bollocks.

That's not what he's saying though is it?

He's saying Sitwell has the respect of posters despite disagreements and has had this for a significant length of time.

No one suggests you shouldn't have an opinion, irrespective of how long anyone has been a member, but you need to bear in mind you have on more than one occasion taken a stance which has proven to be, in your words, utter bollocks.
 
You will eventually disprove your own theory that an opinion becomes more valid the longer a poster has been on here. A poster might become more respected which is quite different, but I doubt that's going to happen in your case. Coincidentally, brownie's an excellent case in point, I've watched him grow up over about 15 years on various SUFC messageboards, through jobs, marriage, fatherhood, divorce. Mind you, he used to be a right little gobshite :)

If you're right about most others agreeing with you by the way, you'll get hundreds of likes.

Absolute case of 'like' canvassing. It nearly got me, don't fall for it brownie :D

Then I read the other stuff and found I totally agreed, so Trig got a like anyway. o_O
 
I would suggest that real thugs are a worst problem that aspirant thugs.


I'd say the point being made wasn't some romanticism of "real thugs" but that these morons show off in a relatively safe environment rather than face to face with similar minded people who may be willing to go beyond a bit of beer throwing and criminal damage. That was my point earlier anyway.
 
I think there is a tendency on here amongst some people to romanticise "real" thugs as opposed to wannabes. I can't go with that.

Surely in your line Darren, you've heard plenty of this, I hear it quite regularly. 'Villians aint what they used to be. When Ronnie and Reggie (insert vicious thugs of choice) were in charge of this manor, there was a bit of order. People could leave their doors open, women were treated with respect. etc. etc. etc.'
 
Surely in your line Darren, you've heard plenty of this, I hear it quite regularly. 'Villians aint what they used to be. When Ronnie and Reggie (insert vicious thugs of choice) were in charge of this manor, there was a bit of order. People could leave their doors open, women were treated with respect. etc. etc. etc.'


Nobody took liberties with tea and milk......
 
Surely in your line Darren, you've heard plenty of this, I hear it quite regularly. 'Villians aint what they used to be. When Ronnie and Reggie (insert vicious thugs of choice) were in charge of this manor, there was a bit of order. People could leave their doors open, women were treated with respect. etc. etc. etc.'

Yep - "they used to buy their muvvahs flowers and that, they always looked after their own, so they killed and mutilated a few people, what's that between friends" etc etc
 
That is a sad indictment of the current state of affairs I'm afraid.

Sheffield United away days have for me personally been the best day out going, there has been nothing finer than being up early on a saturday morning, go on a trip to a far flung town or city, with a group of mates, having plenty of beer all day, seeing a football match and then having a few more beers on the way back and rolling back in to Sheffield hammered late at night having had a good day out. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. On these day outs, i know which pubs to go to on away days because i have been there before and been welcome visitors, i have struck loads of friendships up on the away days, friendships that are still live and valid these days, from meeting some of my best friends years ago on away trips, to a casual nod and hello with someone i might have had a beer with 10 or 15 years ago. You know what, in that time i can only remember one occasion where i have felt the need to throw a punch (and that was warranted as i chinned a knobhead i know as the 'racist tash man' who tagged on to me and my group of friends and used the fact that he had tagged on to us as a perfectly valid reason to racially abuse and threaten a couple of black teenagers on the underground on the way back from Palace 10 or 11 years ago), i never felt any requirement for being generally abusive to opposing fans and families, i never felt the need to rip down air conditioning units, the urge to steal pitch covers was never an itch that needed scratching, but the desire to enjoy a good day out, a few beers and enjoying myself without acting like a total cunt was a pre-requisite.

The problem is that the kids nowadays have a clear definition of what an away day should be. It is based on a loose hybrid of Football Factory and Green Street splashed with a soupcon of the Lad Bible. They are all coked up to the eyeballs because it is seen as the done thing (without any clear thought to the long-term consequences), they think it is acceptable to engage in acts of random criminal damage and don't really care about who they threaten or intimidate because in their warped view 'We're Sheff Utd, we do what we want'. They film it all on their mobiles to show off and try and outdo others, and similar retards for other clubs, because social media is now some sort of proving ground rather than the terraces of the 1970's (I bet SYP football intelligence unit love seeing these videos as they are just giving the authorities evidence). Gone is the days when they gained respect for impressive standards of beer consumption and gaining the respect of their elders. That is something that any regular on Shreds old coach would attest to. It will not be long to these idiots have completely fucked their long term lives up by being the proud owner of the dual drug habit and criminal record. They are all followers because when you look at them, they are all part of a group, but i look at them individually and think to myself that if it came down to a one on one fight with any of them, then they would absolutely shit it. They are nothing but immature children in an environment where they have got all the freedoms of being in an adult world and making childish, immature choices.

I don't think it is right and fair that people like me and yourself who have got young children should be forced away from the away games. I've took my 6 year old lad to a handful of away games over the last few years, he asks now 'when can we go and watch United at another teams ground', and I'm afraid that now it might be some time until he goes away with me again. It's a shame because effectively he, and other children who have an equal and unequivocal love of the game are being driven away from the game, by what, a set of immature children fuelled on Cocaine and Alcohol who live and die by the mantra "We're Sheff Utd, we do what we want?"

Fucking arseholes, the lot of them.

Couldn't agree more Brownie. I've given a lot of thought to what happened on Saturday given how wound up by it all I was and wanted to try to balance my thoughts on those involved but it's not worked. I've made my feelings several times on what I think about the players we've had over the last 2 seasons (play when they fancy it and don't give a toss about the club or the fans) BUT I wouldn't slag them off during the match as, IMO, I think that is counter productive. Have I voiced my feelings at full time? - too fucking right I have and everyone has the right to do so if they want. However, what went on at Rochdale was appalling and I was actually embarrassed to think that I could be linked to aresholes like that through the support of our great club. I know football supporting is a passionate passtime but does anyone really believe that it's acceptable to treat another human being like they way some of our players were treat whenever they were close to our supporters? I've only missed 2 games all season (not a big blade brag) but I've got to say that if it gets like that much more often, then I might start to think twice.
 
You do that by repeating exactly the same thing time and time again, which is my main objection to most of the stuff you post. We know you think Adkins is the anti-Christ, no need to say it on every thread, it's unnecessary. You also overlook the fact that (and I usually hate this expression) this is a community and people will react to respected and longtime posters such as Silent being attacked, not for the first time by you.

You will eventually disprove your own theory that an opinion becomes more valid the longer a poster has been on here. A poster might become more respected which is quite different, but I doubt that's going to happen in your case. Coincidentally, brownie's an excellent case in point, I've watched him grow up over about 15 years on various SUFC messageboards, through jobs, marriage, fatherhood, divorce. Mind you, he used to be a right little gobshite :)

If you're right about most others agreeing with you by the way, you'll get hundreds of likes.

Hard to believe it but my first foray on to the Messageboards came way back in Adrian Heath reign when I was working at Butlins and used to go to Minehead library once a week to catch up on the United latest.

Strange to think about it as I still regard myself as a bit of a newbie, (or one of the paperboys to use an old term) but I pre-date the vast majority of posters and I'm a bit of an old hand at this game now.
 
I've only missed 2 games all season (not a big blade brag) but I've got to say that if it gets like that much more often, then I might start to think twice.
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You do that by repeating exactly the same thing time and time again, which is my main objection to most of the stuff you post. We know you think Adkins is the anti-Christ, no need to say it on every thread, it's unnecessary. You also overlook the fact that (and I usually hate this expression) this is a community and people will react to respected and longtime posters such as Silent being attacked, not for the first time by you.

You will eventually disprove your own theory that an opinion becomes more valid the longer a poster has been on here. A poster might become more respected which is quite different, but I doubt that's going to happen in your case. Coincidentally, brownie's an excellent case in point, I've watched him grow up over about 15 years on various SUFC messageboards, through jobs, marriage, fatherhood, divorce. Mind you, he used to be a right little gobshite :)

If you're right about most others agreeing with you by the way, you'll get hundreds of likes.
What ever you say, and whether you like it or not, the point being made is that opinions are worth more the longer a person has been posting. I'm rejecting that proposal, because I think it's wrong.
 
I remember the time when Sitwell, sometimes known as Shitwell, was quite unpopular on these message boards. He has mellowed somewhat :) But regardless of whether you like him or not, he makes a lot of sense in a lot of what he posts and says it like it is. That's why he gets the likes, not because he's a popular old boy.
 
You wont find more opposite people than say Esablade Brownie and Tarquin than me on certain subjects ,but I always read their posts and if I don't agree banter it out with them ,I respect all 3 of them now as I do 99% of everyone else on here. You just don't seem to get it , anyway congratulations on fucking up another very good thread.

With the proviso that you're always 'right' ;)
 
Brilliantly put Brownie ,its got to the stage where you would even have to think twice about Wembley ,as there is no where to move away to like there was on Saturday. The reason my daughter doesn't want to go is purely because she cant see as everyone stands up ,and until she grows up a bit theres nothing I can do about that. In the meantime I can go with the mates and get some beers in so its not all bad :)

The front half a dozen rows or so at Rochdale folk were seated and at Bury I managed to find a sitting bit (might have been better with a seat facing away from the pitch for that one though).

I know standing up is the done thing at away games but personally I really cant see the point you can see much better when everyone sits down. Probably just me though as I can't see the point of flares, throwing beer, climbing on things and abusing the players. I do tend to clap a lot, although not so much lately for some reason...... o_O
 

The front half a dozen rows or so at Rochdale folk were seated and at Bury I managed to find a sitting bit (might have been better with a seat facing away from the pitch for that one though).

I know standing up is the done thing at away games but personally I really cant see the point you can see much better when everyone sits down. Probably just me though as I can't see the point of flares, throwing beer, climbing on things and abusing the players. I do tend to clap a lot, although not so much lately for some reason...... o_O
It wasn't sitting in front of me ,it was shout abuse at stewards and players and pull up the pitch cover and play tug of war :)
 
I remember the time when Sitwell, sometimes known as Shitwell, was quite unpopular on these message boards. He has mellowed somewhat :) But regardless of whether you like him or not, he makes a lot of sense in a lot of what he posts and says it like it is. That's why he gets the likes, not because he's a popular old boy.
I had a good old barny on the old viewpoints with someone called Trader Blade. She didn't like anyone standing up to her ,that's when Shitwell started ,cant even remember what it was about :). Ive always been pretty mellow ,Im not an excitable type really.
 
Yes, some fans acted like nobs but that's far from our biggest issue. At least they are paying to go to matches to act like nobs. I'd say it's those being paid good money going out there and acting like nobs year after year that's a much bigger issue. The cowards visibly gave up after going behind.
 
It wasn't sitting in front of me ,it was shout abuse at stewards and players and pull up the pitch cover and play tug of war :)

I was quite a bit to the left of the 'high jinx' and a lot of the front was sitting. Of course you only need a couple to stand and that's it done.

Its a shame they (the nob fans) couldn't be kept in detention or something similarly mildly humiliating.. I found it all rather embarrassing, some older blokes who ought to know better involved too, which part of the cover did you grab Sitwell....... :eek:
 
I was quite a bit to the left of the 'high jinx' and a lot of the front was sitting. Of course you only need a couple to stand and that's it done.

Its a shame they (the nob fans) couldn't be kept in detention or something similarly mildly humiliating.. I found it all rather embarrassing, some older blokes who ought to know better involved too, which part of the cover did you grab Sitwell....... :eek:
Actually coming out down the tunnel was dicey with the cover all over the show and it was true that kids were having to be moved for their own safety. However the only people I saw trip funnily enough was nothing to do with the cover ,but the kerb outside ,which was really high ,Agana was one out of many who took a dive.
 
Behaviour of some fans on Saturday, despite how bad it may have been, will not detract potential signings in Summer. We're well known to hand out big contracts so some unsavoury fans will not stop them coming here.
 
You take your dad to the Chesterfield game if you can get tickets. As much as the idiot element would like to go, there will be limited tickets due to our much smaller allocation. Genuine Blades only for that one I reckon
hope so mate dont want him to see stuff like that again especially on his birthday told me he saw enough of it when he was my age
 
If you look at the abuse some posters are given on these and other forums for dissenting views it's quite obvious that those giving out the abuse on Saturday at Rochdale and at previous away fixtures probably post on here or at least echo the values of some posters!
If this excellent forum can be used as a hotbed for abusing fellow blades it's no coincidence away matches are becoming the same!
Should it now be "we're all blades and hate each other aren't we"
 

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