Better than 1970-71!

[bibbity bobbity boo]

I was born in 1971 and remember that season well.

Same here you old twat.

 

[sitwell]

Nigel Pearson was the person most damaged by the change in the backpass law.

I look on the laws on violent play like this: we would not have had Ronaldo and Messi do so well for so long in the 1980s. They would have been treated like Maradona was in Spain. They'd have been kicked out of the game.

Or look at 1966 vs 1970. Pele had the crap kicked out of him by the Portuguese and George McCabe did nothing. From the first game in 1970 they clamped down on stuff like that and the greatest player in the game flourished. I know what I'd rather have.

As I said, it isn't perfect, but the big changes have IMHO worked very well. And believe me, you don't want the pre 1925 offside law back.

George Best quote ,I didn't become the player I was by not being tackled. Tackling is part of the game ,sadly missing in the modern game in my opinion ,tricks and flicks have their place but pass pass pass does my head in ,cant beat the sight of a player dribbling with the ball and a good tackle. Its all tactics ,passing ,possession , stamina ,fitness now. Give me some flair and ability

 

[Harrisblade]

Jimmy Hill campaigned for it.
Fifa didn’t officially adopt it until 1995:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zqvtn39

As I remember it, opinion was generally in favour.
It was meant to reward attacking play, ie making it worth trying to win a game because of the extra 2 points rather than than the previous 1 point difference between a win and a draw

 

[Working Class Hero]

Difficult to remember reactions to specific changes. The 3 points for a win has opened up the game, and means that away teams don't often play for a 0-0 draw from the beginning. It has also made it easier to move up and down the league, so teams are involved in promotion/relegation fights much later in the season. Increased numbers being promoted/relegated also helps with that, as does having the play-offs. Play-offs, however, lead to the odd situation of the team fishing third not getting promotion, and the team in sixth place going up. There is something uncomfortable about that. And, of course, the play-offs were designed to drive all Blades fans to insanity...

Three times we've been done over by the play-offs, finishing 3rd and not getting promoted. Would be interesting to see if any teams can do better than that? We do seem to have horrific luck.

What might have been now if the old format had stayed?

 

[Gannon's perm]

All part of the 13-year curse. Watch out for any rule changes at the beginning of next season.

That would be VAR, only if we go up of course.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

That would be VAR, only if we go up of course.

I hadn't thought of that. Last game of next season we may need someone to sabotage VAR...

 

[HighfieldBlade]

Jimmy Hill campaigned for it.
Fifa didn’t officially adopt it until 1995:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zqvtn39

Maybe I'm imagining this, but I think there was a football highlights programme on TV hosted by Derek Dougan and in one of the shows he talked about the proposed 3pts for a win rule. Since then, I erroneously thought it was him that came up with the idea!

 

[bornablade]

We had just started the run in after being beaten by Hull City,we went unbeaten for the last 11 games drawing a fair number.

One of which was a 0-0 at Hillsborough which if my memory serves me right was on a Monday afternoon. (Easter Monday).

 

[grafikhaus]

When was 3 points for a win introduced?

Last season (2017-18) 3 points for a draw was introduced.

By Wednesday.

 

[snootyfenooty]

Maybe I'm imagining this, but I think there was a football highlights programme on TV hosted by Derek Dougan and in one of the shows he talked about the proposed 3pts for a win rule. Since then, I erroneously thought it was him that came up with the idea!

Ah the Doog. Loved him, proper hard bastard.

 

[BushBlade]

Yeah, not having the backpass law does look silly now with hindsight. Made the game way too easy for defence, knowing that they had a safe pair of hands right behind them anytime they're under pressure.

And also, on the rare occasions when it's broken, we get the joy of witnessing an 11-man wall on the line resembling something from playground football, but on a professional pitch. Beautiful.

I was only a kid but I think the back pass law and three points for a win improved the game. You could draw a lot of games and still win a league. Away teams would just set up for a draw, which they often got.

I always thought of seventies/early eighties football as being moments of excitement interspersed by periods of tedium, as the ball just bounced around the central areas of a muddy, divotted pitch whilst blokes, some of whom were a bit tubby, kicked each other. It was rare that any team would retain possession for more than a few seconds or put together a ten pass move, unless they were passing around the back four and keeper, Liverpool style.

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

I remember the reaction being positive. There were too many "park the bus" games. It led to more entertaining football, although some busparkers took a long time to alter their ways.

 

[Topplayersleave]

3 points for a win is brilliant, a draw wasn't considered that bad a result for all concerned, unless of course a win was needed.
But generally teams could sit back and see out a goalless draw and be quite happy with their days work, neither team would be overly upset about it, but for the fans it was bloody awful.
Three points for a win led to a much more attacking game which has helped improve players abilities defensively and going forward, and it is now a much better game for supporters to watch.

I saw it on a website quite a while ago that some were trying to push the football authorities for 2 points for an away draw as it was considered a better result than a home draw, but this would just encourage away teams to go all defensive again

 

[ucandomagic]

Three times we've been done over by the play-offs, finishing 3rd and not getting promoted. Would be interesting to see if any teams can do better than that? We do seem to have horrific luck.

What might have been now if the old format had stayed?

I’m all for the playoffs - but deciding PO games with penalty shoot-outs is complete nonsense. The PO’s should be a last chance for the lower teams to displace those finishing above them. At the end of extra time, if scores are level, then the team finishing the season higher should go through. It is madness that you can finish a season 10 points ahead of somebody in a 46 game season and they go up because of 1 penalty.

My method would also mean that extra time would be exciting right to the end, as somebody would have to score. At present, extra time usually degenerates into 2 tired teams waiting for penalties.

It will never happen though - as penalties are good television!

 

[wavy-blade]

I wasn’t even a twinkle in the milkman’s eye at that point.

What’s the comparison to 1990 and 2006?

That's really pissed me off , god I am old

 

[wavy-blade]

Oh go on then - I've put them both on just for you!

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Are you a rocket scientist ?

 

[ucandomagic]

Are you a rocket scientist ?

Rocket science is child’s play -fuel/oxygen combustion and motion in a vacuum with only gravity to worry about.

Try fuel/air combustion with complex aerodynamics interfering and material science crucial in the behaviour of melting rubber interacting via friction with a surface of changeable roughness.

Never undeestod the phrase it’s not rocket science, when reverse swing in humid air is way more difficult to model!!

 

[Groucho Blade]

I always thought that studying the best way to grow peppery salad leaves was rocket science

 

[Gimli]

That finished many defenders!

We haven’t won a trophy since...

 

[oldblade]

I wasn’t even a twinkle in the milkman’s eye at that point.

What’s the comparison to 1990 and 2006?

1989-90 W17 D12 L5 63 Points.

2005-6 W21 D8 L5 71 Points.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

I’m all for the playoffs - but deciding PO games with penalty shoot-outs is complete nonsense. The PO’s should be a last chance for the lower teams to displace those finishing above them. At the end of extra time, if scores are level, then the team finishing the season higher should go through. It is madness that you can finish a season 10 points ahead of somebody in a 46 game season and they go up because of 1 penalty.

My method would also mean that extra time would be exciting right to the end, as somebody would have to score. At present, extra time usually degenerates into 2 tired teams waiting for penalties.

It will never happen though - as penalties are good television!

I too am for the playoffs, but the format is wrong.

The Conference now has a different format - only 1 game with high team at home.

It's also graded like Rugby League where think 2nd place only ends up playing 1 game.

Certainly it pays for finishing higher up.

UTB

 

[boo radley]

I was born in 1971 and remember that season well.

Seems like your Dad enjoyed it as well. Shame he's been disappointed ever since