Bert, The Box Office and Eleven Hundred Quid.

[Darren]

Bert is not in "an unfortunate position".
He will infact be better off by not buying the season tickets and just going to the same number of games as he went to last season, he may even go to less games due to his new habit of going on holiday. It wasn't worth his while buying the tickets last season and it won't be worth it this season, none the less he was prepared to support the club by paying his eleven hundred quid but £1,252 is a bridge too far.

nb Bert has no wish to sit on the Kop amongst the tattooed, beer drinking Pukka Pie munchers.

Darren is somewhat puzzled by the fact that a man of Bert's apparent wealth (see Trigger's post below) is willing to pay £1100 for season tickets he doesn't need in order to "support the club", yet is not willing to pay an extra £152 for the same tickets in order to support the club.

 

[Bert]

Bert's too self-effacing to mention it, but it will be good few years before he's entitled to a pensioner's discount.

Ferenc Blade asked the question yesterday as to whether Bert is some kind of idiot. The answer is that he's so stupid, he's managed to retire and go on extended holidays in his mid-fifties and still be active enough to enjoy them. Trig wishes that Trig had been blessed with such lack of business acumen that he could have afforded to do what Bert has done.

Don't let Trig's youthful outlook and exuberance fool you, he's several years older than Bert.

It wasn't that many years ago since the Chief Steward at West Brom said to Trig and Bert "I'm going to take a chance on you two lads" as he allowed them to swap sections of the ground.

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Darren is somewhat puzzled by the fact that a man of Bert's apparent wealth (see Trigger's post below) is willing to pay £1100 for season tickets he doesn't need in order to "support the

", yet is not willing to pay an extra £152 for the same tickets in order to support the club.

Bert refers you back to his previous posts about never overpaying for anything especially a lesser product (than last season.)

 

[Rodders]

The way that I see it is that Clubs (not just United) recognise that they don't get many summer sales, because football almost goes to the back of the mind, unless there is a major signing coming in. In which case, I'm sure there would be a spike in sales for a few days after that signing and this would almost be regardless of discount or full price. Optimism will bring fans back during the summer.

I'm sure if we signed Messi, then all these stubborn non renewers would stop quibbling on the price and clamber for tickets.

Well, of course; Messi is worth £400 - Cresswell and Chedwyn lumbering about aren't.

 

[SwissBlade]

Bert is not in "an unfortunate position".
none the less he was prepared to support the club by paying his eleven hundred quid but £1,252 is a bridge too far.

nb Bert has no wish to sit on the Kop amongst the tattooed, beer drinking Pukka Pie munchers.

Bert would only have to pay £152 difference, the way Bert was talking, it seemed that Bert was quibling over paying double of even half as much, but £152 difference, I can end up paying that sort of difference on my flight costs from week to week.

Swiss thinks that Bert is a tight arse just making a spectacle of the club for no reason other than to gain personal dispensation.

What Swiss wants to know is... Was Bert aware of the discounted price deadline date at any point before the deadline and if he knew that he wouldn't be around before the end of the deadline, why didn't he advise the club up front. Perhaps a phone call from cuba is £200 but a posted letter would cost a lot less from Cuba to the lane.

If Bert doesn't want to pay the price or sit on the Kop, then does he really want to go at all? Swiss thinks he's not really that bothered, but wants to blame the club

 

[Darren]

It wasn't that many years ago since the Chief Steward at West Brom said to Trig and Bert "I'm going to take a chance on you two lads" as he allowed them to swap sections of the ground.

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Bert refers you back to his previous posts about never overpaying for anything especially a lesser product (than last season.)

Darren is still puzzled.

Bert has already said that he would not spend as much as £1100 if he just paid for each match he went to. So by paying £1100 Bert would still be overpaying. It seems to Darren that Bert has no objection in principle to overpaying as far as SUFC is concerned, only overpaying to the tune of £1252 (minus whatever he will pay on match days) as opposed to £1100 (minus whatever he will pay on match days).

 

[Bert]

Bert would only have to pay £152 difference, the way Bert was talking, it seemed that Bert was quibling over paying double of even half as much, but £152 difference, I can end up paying that sort of difference on my flight costs from week to week.

Swiss thinks that Bert is a tight arse just making a spectacle of the club for no reason other than to gain personal dispensation.

What Swiss wants to know is... Was Bert aware of the discounted price deadline date at any point before the deadline and if he knew that he wouldn't be around before the end of the deadline, why didn't he advise the club up front. Perhaps a phone call from cuba is £200 but a posted letter would cost a lot less from Cuba to the lane.

If Bert doesn't want to pay the price or sit on the Kop, then does he really want to go at all? Swiss thinks he's not really that bothered, but wants to blame the club

Bert has never blamed the club for anything not now and never previously. As for the concept of sending a letter from Cuba, now that is very funny. It would never arrive and if it did by some miracle it would take six months.

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Darren is still puzzled.

Bert has already said that he would not spend as much as £1100 if he just paid for each match he went to. So by paying £1100 Bert would still be overpaying. It seems to Darren that Bert has no objection in principle to overpaying as far as SUFC is concerned, only overpaying to the tune of £1252 (minus whatever he will pay on match days) as opposed to £1100 (minus whatever he will pay on match days).

Bert would have been happy to slightly overpay but not grossly overpay.

 

[JohnDenver]

Bert has never blamed the club for anything not now and never previously. As for the concept of sending a letter from Cuba, now that is very funny. It would never arrive and if it did by some miracle it would take six months.

I bet you sent your mum a postcard.

 

[JJ Sefton]

What Swiss wants to know is... Was Bert aware of the discounted price deadline date at any point before the deadline and if he knew that he wouldn't be around before the end of the deadline, why didn't he advise the club up front. Perhaps a phone call from cuba is £200 but a posted letter would cost a lot less from Cuba to the lane.

Walthamstow would like to know

1 - When the tickets went on sale at £1,100
2 - When Bert went on holiday
3 - When the offer to buy tickets at £1,100 expired

 

[SwissBlade]

Swiss thinks that Bert had a lot of options and could've got the discounted price if Bert's such a stickler for a discount, then Bert would've been smart enough to figure it out somehow.

If Bert was that bothered about getting a ST then Bert should either a) not go to Cuba b) not go to Cuba/ on holiday during the March/ April c) Pay for the phone call.

It just goes to show Bert that by getting a cheap holiday in Cuba, Bert lost out on getting the Blades ST at the discounted rate.

In addition, Swiss did a little bit of research on the internet to find out how long you could be on the phone for to run up a £200 phone bill. According to the priciest tariff I found, it would cost £1.53 per minute to call the UK. I'm sure that Bert is clever enough to find cheap calling cards in Cuba and get this price down, but if not, then a call to the UK costing £200 would give over 2 hours of talk time! Swiss suggests that an ST could be renewed in under 30 mins (£45.90) if Bert was smart enough to have the details to hand. Bert would then make a post deadline saving of £106.10 by making a phone renewal from Cuba. Bert might also get a mention on the OS for making his renewal at considerable cost, all the way from Cuba.

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Walthamstow would like to know

1 - When the tickets went on sale at £1,100
2 - When Bert went on holiday
3 - When the offer to buy tickets at £1,100 expired

I think it was:

1 - Friday 04th March 2011
2 - ?
3 - Monday 17th April 2011

 

[JJ Sefton]

I think it was:

1 - Friday 04th March 2011
2 - ?
3 - Monday 17th April 2011

Walthamstow can only assume that Bert went on holiday prior to March 4th since a departure date any later than that would mean that Bert could have sorted all this out before heading off to sunnier climes.

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[FleaPitBlade]

If Bert was in Cuba between 4th March & 17th April then Presty suspects that the Cuban Immigration Office might like to speak to Bert with regards to him outstaying his holiday visa.

(unless Bert had it extended)

 

[Rodders]

Bert's too self-effacing to mention it, but it will be good few years before he's entitled to a pensioner's discount.

Ferenc Blade asked the question yesterday as to whether Bert is some kind of idiot. The answer is that he's so stupid, he's managed to retire and go on extended holidays in his mid-fifties and still be active enough to enjoy them. Trig wishes that Trig had been blessed with such lack of business acumen that he could have afforded to do what Bert has done.

Don't let Trig's youthful outlook and exuberance fool you, he's several years older than Bert.

Quite possibly the most embarassing post I've ever read on the Internet - are you sure you don't have a schoolgirl crush on Bert...??

 

[sitwell]

Quite possibly the most embarassing post I've ever read on the Internet - are you sure you don't have a schoolgirl crush on Bert...??

Having met Bert ,I can't see a thing wrong with Triggers post. Are you jealous ?

 

[SwissBlade]

If Bert was in Cuba between 4th March & 17th April then Presty suspects that the Cuban Immigration Office might like to speak to Bert with regards to him outstaying his holiday visa.

(unless Bert had it extended)

Swiss likes this, but Presty could also wonder if Bert was in Cuba until end of May, as he only went down on 1st June to renew.

 

[Rodders]

Having met Bert ,I can't see a thing wrong with Triggers post. Are you jealous ?

Of being infatuated with another bloke? err... not really.

 

[Bedrock Blade]

So to sum up. Bert went to Cuba.

 

[Bladesway]

SUFC could hold on to a great deal of its support if they priced season tickets at £10 but would the revenue brought in from new supporters offset the revenue loss from the price cut? Thats the decision and SUFC made it. Walthamstow thinks its a shame Bert wasnt as bothered about his season ticket renewal all the long weeks he had the chance to renew it at the old price. You snooze you lose.

70 people at £200 is better than no people at £500. Stop talking bollocks.

 

[Bert]

If Bert was in Cuba between 4th March & 17th April then Presty suspects that the Cuban Immigration Office might like to speak to Bert with regards to him outstaying his holiday visa.

(unless Bert had it extended)

Had that been the case the Cuban authorities would already have spoken to Bert as he tried to leave the country after over staying his visa.
However a person can simply fly from Santiago de Cuba to Santa Domingo in the Dominican Republic and return on the next plane thereby gaining another month's stay.

 

[Bladesman]

Should of been more forceful Bert I know someone who renewed the other week at the discount prices.

Dig your heels in more and the club will concede because they know the ground will be half empty next season.

 

[Bert]

70 people at £200 is better than no people at £500. Stop talking bollocks.

Indeed, Bert always ran his business on the principle that a slightly reduced piece of cake is better than no cake at all.
He also was a devotee of Mr Micawber's rules of business.

 

[Northyorksblade]

Bert's too self-effacing to mention it, but it will be good few years before he's entitled to a pensioner's discount.

Ferenc Blade asked the question yesterday as to whether Bert is some kind of idiot. The answer is that he's so stupid, he's managed to retire and go on extended holidays in his mid-fifties and still be active enough to enjoy them. Trig wishes that Trig had been blessed with such lack of business acumen that he could have afforded to do what Bert has done.

Don't let Trig's youthful outlook and exuberance fool you, he's several years older than Bert.

It did make me laugh the thought that Bert was perceived to be an OAP, or SC as we are known now. But I am sure he doesn't need you sticking up for him. I suppose it's such a habit it now, you can't stop doing it.
PS That padded jacket he got caught out wearing was pretty cheap wasn't it? Even you have to agree on that. AND while I think of it, what's his obsession with Cuba?

 

[FleaPitBlade]

Had that been the case the Cuban authorities would already have spoken to Bert as he tried to leave the country after over staying his visa.
However a person can simply fly from Santiago de Cuba to Santa Domingo in the Dominican Republic and return on the next plane thereby gaining another month's stay.

Thats alright then. Presty suspects that a Cuban jail isnt the sort of place that Bert would be made very welcome!

 

[Darren]

Indeed, Bert always ran his business on the principle that a slightly reduced piece of cake is better than no cake at all.
He also was a devotee of Mr Micawber's rules of business.

But surely Bert recognised that, in business, the choice is rarely between no cake and a cake of a single definded size. Just as SUFC's choice is not between filling the ground by charging £10 a season ticket or having an empty ground if they charged £10,000 a ticket.

Darren is naive enough to believe that SUFC put some thought into how much they charge for ST's and that they work on the principle of maximising their revenue. Their charging structure is based on what they think will maximise revenue (there's a supply and demand graph which helps you with this if Darren remembers O Level Economics aright). They may be wrong or they may be right on this judgment, but once they have reached that decision, it would be chaotic if everyone could then negotiate those prices.

 

[Northyorksblade]

Walthamstow would like to know

1 - When the tickets went on sale at £1,100
2 - When Bert went on holiday
3 - When the offer to buy tickets at £1,100 expired

Bbert was still in Lincolnshire on 18 March at 4.26 if previous posts on here are to be believed.

 

[Bert]

Email directly to [email protected] and give her the specific details of your reason for missing the deadline, your seat numbers, number of years as a season ticket holder etc and a little note re £1100 quid. She is an excellent person who will take your requst to the powers that be.

It's your best bet.

She is indeed one of the more impressive employees of SUFC but she's probably far too busy dealing with all the floods of season ticket purchases to deal with Bert.

 

[shorehamview]

Indeed, Bert always ran his business on the principle that a slightly reduced piece of cake is better than no cake at all.
He also was a devotee of Mr Micawber's rules of business.

And, it would seem to Shorehamview, a devotee of Mr. Forgetful's rules of season ticket purchases.

But surely if Bert can be off globetrotting like a Labour committee member then surely a few quid more for a season ticket will amount to fuck-all in a five year plan. Perhaps Bert too, seeing as how he's so organised enough to hop hither, thither and yon to extend his Cuban soiree could perhaps have been better organised so as to renew sometime during the period of several weeks that renewals were at the reduced rate for. Unless of course Bert was so excited at the prospect of spending most of the spring of 2011 out of the country that he thought he'd not bother.

Either way, I, sorry, SV can't see why Bert thinks he deserves a reduction.

And if Bert is too posh for the Kop then perhaps Bert ought to go and take up croquet, or backgammon, or some other more genteel pastime that will allow for Caribbean excursions at any time.

 

[Bert]

It did make me laugh the thought that Bert was perceived to be an OAP, or SC as we are known now. But I am sure he doesn't need you sticking up for him. I suppose it's such a habit it now, you can't stop doing it.
PS That padded jacket he got caught out wearing was pretty cheap wasn't it? Even you have to agree on that. AND while I think of it, what's his obsession with Cuba?

The "Padded Jacket" is in fact a duck down filled RAB jacket which like Bert was made in Sheffield.
Not everybody can say that they were made in Sheffield can they Bilty?

 

[shorehamview]

Not everybody can say that they were made in Sheffield can they Bilty?

Indeed they can't. Chiese people for example. And Africans. In fact, most people.

 

[Darren]

And, it would seem to Shorehamview, a devotee of Mr. Forgetful's rules of season ticket purchases.

But surely if Bert can be off globetrotting like a Labour committee member then surely a few quid more for a season ticket will amount to fuck-all in a five year plan. Perhaps Bert too, seeing as how he's so organised enough to hop hither, thither and yon to extend his Cuban soiree could perhaps have been better organised so as to renew sometime during the period of several weeks that renewals were at the reduced rate for. Unless of course Bert was so excited at the prospect of spending most of the spring of 2011 out of the country that he thought he'd not bother.

Either way, I, sorry, SV can't see why Bert thinks he deserves a reduction.

And if Bert is too posh for the Kop then perhaps Bert ought to go and take up croquet, or backgammon, or some other more genteel pastime that will allow for Caribbean excursions at any time.

Darren thinks SV is missing the point. Its not that Bert can't afford the extra £152 (heaven forbid), it's that whilst he is happy being overcharged to the tune of - what - £300, if he is overcharged £452 it becomes a matter of principle.

 

[JJ Sefton]

70 people at £200 is better than no people at £500. Stop talking bollocks.

Where do those revenue projections come from?