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I’m now thinking you’d have actually upped sticks and moved to Belgium by now if Beerschot were any good 😁
United being so bad was probably the only reason I left UK!

My Dad always said if it hadn't been for Bryan Robson I don't think you'd have gone all the way to Singapore to get away from them!

With the whole United World thing, there was definitely a niche on the message Board to fill with a bit of help from PurpleRain.
 

I've just watched the Belgium second city Derby where Beerschot has gone down 2-1 to Royal Antwerp. But my gosh if I was a Beerschot fan I would feel cheated.

To the teams before the drama.
The line up was far better than recent weeks. Thirty-seven year old Biebauw returned in goal on place of Vanhamel who was basically told earlier in the week her was persona non-grata. He's obviously not reacted well to losing the captaincy but maybe out resident fan can advise further as he's now been dropped to 3rd pick. It was 3-4-1-2 with the back three continuing as Radic, Lemos and Van den Bergh. On the right at wing back was Dom and on the left, the Frenchman Bourdain was favoured over de Smet. In midfield Pietermaat and Sanusi occupied the two defensive roles with Sebaoui in the no 10 role. Up front Shankland was joined once more by Avenatti.

The high flying Royal Antwerp had the lion's share of possession in the first half but Beershot were defending tenaciously. In the 22nd minute they thought they had their opening. Shankland nicely played in Sebaoui who appeared to glide past the keeper and go to ground. It's very difficult to see on the replay, but I wonder if the keeper might have marginally clipped the Beershot player or else why would he go to ground? He was clear on goal. First sense of injustice for Beerschot.

Not long before half time they had a glorious chance to make it 1-0. Shankland had some joy down the right, cut inside cleverly, giving himself a great angle with his left foot but just couldn't wrap it around the ball and the chance went wayward. Not to be denied, a similar move down the right was this time player back to Dom who hit a first time shot into the corner. 1-0 to the away team.

Antwerp came out refreshed in the second half but Beershot has largely kept them at bay and we're having their own moments. A cynic foul by Secka took out Sanusi as he was breaking lines in one of those tactical fouls which ought to be more harshly punished.

Then the game started to take a darker turn for Beershot. Frey smartly equalised on 62 minutes.

De Smet had replaced Bourdain early in the game due to injury and had already taken a yellow. He then put in a Charlie Goode type tackle, not quite red but a bit under control and saw the yellow card come out which meant his day was done. A daft tackle but again as the away side you are thinking 1. Pen not given 2. Sending off what more is going to conspire against us?

The Footballing Gods were not done. A wonderful break from Sebaoui, carrying the ball a good number of yards, he played a deft pass to Shankland who stroked the ball wonderfully into the top corner with his left foot. The away fans went mad. But this elation soon turned sour VAR took an age and somehow found a minor infringement in the build up. In winning possession the slightest of fouls was detected. Was it really the same phase? Was it really enough of a foul? It didn't seem much to chalk off a brilliant goal which happened many seconds later.

So penalty not given, down to 10 men, goal disallowed. It's difficult for Antwerp to suggest they really deserved what came next after so much adversity went Beerschot's way. On 83 minutes Frey clinically put away a ball that broke his way inside the box, beyond the outstretched left hand of Biebauw and into the far corner. Sadly nothing could be found to chalk this off.

On came Holzhauser and Coulibaly but with just 3 minutes and a bit left of normal time and 5 for injuries it was not enough to salvage something.

A bit gutted for them. Biebauw did fine in goal. The defence despite being under pressure kept the openings to s minimum, though de Smet was stupid to invite the second yellow. They gave up possession but closed down in midfield. Sebaoui was once more a shining light and Shankland had one of his best games I'd seen for them. Having Avenatti back gave them some presence though the ref seemed to flatly refuse fouls his way whenever he was unfairly challenged.

At half time they were 4 points behind Seriang who are losing every week and got smashed at the weekend too. Frustrating for Beerschot that they couldn't have done better in that head to head. It's back to 7 now. With just 4 left to play, an unlikely win for Seraing would end Beerschot's season if they also don't win. They have been competitive in recent weeks but dare I say it(!) Fine margins have just gone against them. I don't believe they are the worst team in the division but they lost the key match and are paying for na appalling start and a lack of belief part way through the season.

Very unlucky today. But that's football unfortunately.

Elsewhere in Europe, Chateauroux picked up a welcome away victory at Sedan 2-0, which really puts the cat amongst the pigeons. Sedan were above Chateauroux at the time of kick off. A penalty from leading scorer Robinet a quarter into the second half and a last minute second from 19 year old forward Doucouré sealed the deal.

Nestled back in 6th, they are just 3 points off 3rd, 6 off second, 8 off first, with 10 games to go. They play 1st placed Stade Laval at home next and then 2nd placed Concarneau so their future can take a significant turn over the next fortnight.

Over and out.
 
Is this Sebaoui kid going to rack up enough games to get a work permit? He seems to be lively every time he plays..
 
Is this Sebaoui kid going to rack up enough games to get a work permit? He seems to be lively every time he plays..
I think he's worth keeping an eye on. A bit N'Diaye like to be honest. If they go down, which looks likely, I can see him emerging as the key creative force despite his youth. I think the one who fulfilled this role Holzhauser will be on decent wages they'll be keen to offload and is seen as a bit of a luxury. The caretaker manager already said he's a player that does well in a good team but not necessarily one for when the chips are down. I think Sebaoui is a bit more tenacious. He stepped up on his debut to slam away a 90th minute penalty. Not many kids will do that.

I might take a look at Chateauroux. I think their games are free to air on Ffftv.ff.fr

I was quite intrigued by their goalscorer. France gets a lot of players of African origin, tall, rangy, physically imposing. He seems to fulfill just that criteria. 19 years old and 6'4".



Their first was a pen, Robinet tapping it in 🥁:



Beerschot highlight

1:15 pen denied
1:50 1-0
2:40 1-1
3:10 sending off
3:50 disallowed goal
4:37 1-2

There is talk that the ref is employee by a firm who has business dealings with Royal Antwerp in the press. I'm sure a few of the decisions are marginal but to have all three go against you is going to leave a bitter taste.
 
I think he's worth keeping an eye on. A bit N'Diaye like to be honest. If they go down, which looks likely, I can see him emerging as the key creative force despite his youth. I think the one who fulfilled this role Holzhauser will be on decent wages they'll be keen to offload and is seen as a bit of a luxury. The caretaker manager already said he's a player that does well in a good team but not necessarily one for when the chips are down. I think Sebaoui is a bit more tenacious. He stepped up on his debut to slam away a 90th minute penalty. Not many kids will do that.

I might take a look at Chateauroux. I think their games are free to air on Ffftv.ff.fr

I was quite intrigued by their goalscorer. France gets a lot of players of African origin, tall, rangy, physically imposing. He seems to fulfill just that criteria. 19 years old and 6'4".



Their first was a pen, Robinet tapping it in 🥁:



Beerschot highlight

1:15 pen denied
1:50 1-0
2:40 1-1
3:10 sending off
3:50 disallowed goal
4:37 1-2

There is talk that the ref is employee by a firm who has business dealings with Royal Antwerp in the press. I'm sure a few of the decisions are marginal but to have all three go against you is going to leave a bitter taste.

I think Abdullah needs to get his hands in his pockets and get Chateauroux some desso.
 
I think Abdullah needs to get his hands in his pockets and get Chateauroux some desso.
They were away, so the pitch/beach belonged to Sedan. But it was hard to avoid the quality of the pitch. Assume they do Shire horse racing in between matches!
 
An example again of matchfixing. Bent referee, complaining about financial problems during the COVID crisis, striking a partnership through his company with the club he is refereeing. Ridiculous but typical for the state of Belgian football. Last week in the build up of the winning goal of Charleroi an obvious foul on Coulibaly did not lead to a var intervention, off course now we score the winning goal they search for the tiniest of fouls to rule of the goal. Those two incidents alone cost us 4 points plus the blatant infringement of the fa rules in the standard replay would already see us equal on points with seraing if everything went fair. Normally my blood would be boiling after so much injustice but the situation in Ukraine reminds me this is all small beer compared to the injustice the Russian regime is causing.
 
I thought the standard of referee in the championship was bad but the referee for Beerschot match v Antwerp needs looking into by the Belgian FA .. if there was a foul in the build up to the Beerschot goal the referee should have stopped play and given a free kick to Antwerp .. not wait until three or four passages of play for Beerschot to score .. and then to rule the goal out .. referees should be made accountable for their errors and suspend them for a match or two depending on their refereeing record .. the standard would improve then !!!
 
I thought the standard of referee in the championship was bad but the referee for Beerschot match v Antwerp needs looking into by the Belgian FA .. if there was a foul in the build up to the Beerschot goal the referee should have stopped play and given a free kick to Antwerp .. not wait until three or four passages of play for Beerschot to score .. and then to rule the goal out .. referees should be made accountable for their errors and suspend them for a match or two depending on their refereeing record .. the standard would improve then !!!
I thought phase of play was a factor for VAR. In losing the ball, didn't that end one phase? After that point there is a long pass, an opportunity for 2 defenders to intercept Sebaoui. There's then 2 defenders failing in the box to prevent the shot. It all feels a bit like Lundstram's big toe, when they prevented a goal vs Spurs in our first season in the PL. That and the 'ghost goal' vs Villa would have seen us play Southampton knowing we could get into Europe instead of it being a game to nothing.

It just stinks when football is like this. I don't see how VAR didn't have a closer look at the penalty. No reason for him to go down, he was bearing down on an empty net. Why would he want a penalty instead of a certain goal? I'm convinced the keeper clipped his foot with his knee or he would not have lost his balance.

As PurpleRain said, whether you like the ruling or not, it states that if local authorities call off a game that is a forfeit to the away team. You could argue a police strike isn't the same as a Mayor calling off a game because he knows the local team has injuries, but that is the rule, put in place because of the latter, so you have to accept the consequences even if the reason for the call off might not be sinister. But it seems now that the complaint is rejected on a technicality because it was the manager of the calendar not Beerschot who instigated the claim. Why was this not mentioned at the first hearing well in advance of the game?

Things like this just impact the credibility of Belgium football. It must be very frustrating for the Prince too. He's going to be tarnished by relegation when they could potentially learn their lessons, go again in the top flight next season there without the hardship of going down and player departures that will bring.
 
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G A M E O V E R

Finally Beerschot ran out of lives yesterday as they went down 2-0 at home, though without fans, to Gent (or Ghent).

The team line up was similar to the Derby game last week; Biebauw in goal, a back five of Dom, Radic, Lemos, Van den Bergh and Bourdain. Midfield was Sebaoui in front of the usual duo of Sanusi and Pietermaat. Up front Avenatti and Shankland. Essentially that is the best that Beerschot can muster.

Gent were resplendent in a head to toe fluorescent number though the game was less bright.

Gent are going well and you could see that Beerschot were of a mindset to close down and defend and expected to have less possession. There were few chances a decent header wide and a one on one missed by the beanpole striker of Gent. At the other end a long(ish) throw fell to Shankland but he couldn't get past a body of players and his shot was deflected away. Having held out for almost all the half, on the stroke of half time a swift counter and a right footed cross curling towards goal was just asking to be put in and de Sart headed in with ease, Van den Bergh sleeping in terms of marking. Beerschot then had an immediate opportunity to equalise. The bounce of a ball forward was misjudged which put Shankland in the clear. Unfortunately he could only hit against the keeper so it remained 1-0 at the break.

Not long after the break Sebaoui came off for Vaca which further reduced their scoring chances. Just after the hour the game was up. Another cross to Lemajic, who had been pretty hapless until that point settled the contest, his tall frame allowing him to outjump Dom to a decent outswinging cross from the right. There were further changes, winter signing Rigo for the ineffectual Pietermaat and Lemos departing to make way for 4 at the back with Suzuki arriving to play up front; he failed to connect with a cross early on after his introduction, but nothing new for him. In the last 15 Coulibaly joined in place of Sanusi but the only thing of note remaining was the introduction of Tissoudali, the former Beerschot player whose departure fans would argue perhaps started this slide.

Later on, Seriang won their derby meaning the maths isn't even there for Beerschot. The only possibly chance is the final arbitration for the Standard game goes their way at the end of March. But with games against 14th STVV, 2nd Club Brugge in 2nd and first placed Union Saint-Gilloise to round off, it would be a brave man to bet on another point.

So what of next season? They will play in Belgium 1B which is made up of just 8 teams though the structure in Belgium occasionally gets revisited. It is hard to say how competitive it is. More and more teams in Belgium feel like franchises of larger clubs. Seraing had a ludicrous amount of players loaned to them by Metz, USG are run by Tony Bloom of Brighton fame, so it may depend on whether they are playing against genuine Belgium teams or satellites of larger clubs.

In terms of the staff, much change can be expected.

In terms of needs, the lower level and men's football should present an opportunity for the Group, however I can imagine the Blades' Management would feel 'once bitten, twice shy'. The loan there of Seriki went poorly but I would say right side of defence was the lowest need of Beerschot so that js at the hands of the recruitment groups rather than the concept of loaning them players. On one hand, I don't see this as a place for a first loan in men's football and the level was probably slightly underestimated for newbies going in there

For what it's worth, especially now the level drops, Boyes would be a mutually good signing. Very good season in the 5th tier in England; they need a left back. With expected departures it might be good for Neal, though it might help him finesse his game with his propensity to pick up yellows. Lopata could also be a difference maker there but I can see him kicking on to our team now. Him and Radic would create a formidably physical centre defence. It will depend on formation but maybe Brunt could find a way in there and finally despite what I said above, with his physicality, it might suit Osula though for United's sake they might prefer a domestic loan.

In terms of what next for the current staff, Biebauw is competent but at 37 and out of contract you wonder if they will move on. The young back up, Lejoly is 23, hardly played any games and is also out of contract. Vanhamel, the former captain is 32 and has 2 years to run on his deal. He is already hugely out of favour, so he'll either be sold or moved on somehow.

In defence, I like Joren Dom, solid defender. Could be better going forward in terms of final ball but does score the occasional goal. He has another year and is 32 so I'd expect him to stay. Likewise Halaïmia has a year to run. He gets up and down, but defensively not so switched on. De Smet is the only left back and he will return to Reims after a poor loan spell. Situation vacant once more for Beerschot. As above, they tried for Norrington-Davies in 1A, Boyes in 1B would seem a good fit especially with no competition.

Radic at 21 should excel after a full season and has a year to go. Not clear if relegation would impact this. He'd be important if he stayed. Van den Bergh has 3 years to run and Bourdain a year. Both are 'ok' though not outstanding. Both left footed centre backs. Lemos did better than I'd seen him in prior games, yesterday, but he will return to Turkey. Konstantopoulos is a young Greek defender. 1m91 like Radic and only 19. He has 2 years left so perhaps they will hope he will emerge. Was a bit of a punt for the top level. They also have a player of experience called Frans who was injured most of the campaign so I never got to see him.

In midfield, Pietermaat, 29, has another year. He's another that is 'ok' but won't set the world alight, defensive midfielder, never scores, never assists and Beershot has conceded a lot but he has a year remaining. Sanusi the new captain is out of contract and may fancy staying at that level. He's 30 now. Rigo, 23, came in, did ok when called upon but not clear if he's done enough to secure a longer deal. Maybe he will stay if Sanusi, who is probably on higher wages, moves on. Holzhauser was the main man last year. He will leave this summer possibly due to a clause but his form has dropped off a cliff and his wages are of the highest I understand. Sebaoui is an exciting prospect who they need to build around. Vaca might do better at a level below and having had the benefit of a year to adapt to life in Europe (he's Bolivian) but not enough output for me. Coulibaly is just back from injury and after relegation you'd expect him to come to BDTBL. It wouldn't surprise if we didn't go up to see Berge depart and Coulibaly be touted as his replacement.

Avenatti's loan spell will be up so it will be down to the club if they wish to persue. He gave them some presence but he's more gangly than domineering. Might be ok in the league below. Noubissi failed to make an impact at the higher level and his contract is up so he could be off. I didn't see enough to suggest he'd consistently be reliable. Shankland gradually improved and might do well in the division below based on his history but I'd be very surprised if he didn't return to Scotland, especially if they can get a fee. Suzuki already had interest and a release clause, surprised they didn't push this over the line to save cash and get a fee to be honest. I found him to be willing but not very able. So there leaves the forwards almost empty. Krekovic is another foreign import but he failed to make the team most of the time. Another Jan punt that didn't come off.

So, plenty to be done in the summer to make them competitive once more. Hopefully for the sake of their fans the recruitment proves to be better this coming summer.
 
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Thanks again for the spot on analysis. A lot of rebuilding is required. At minimum we need a new goalkeeper, a left back, 2 wingers and a striker. And that is hoping they can keep players like Sebaoui, Dom, Sanusi, Shankland and Van den Bergh which is very doubtful. Those are attracting interest of other clubs so not very hopeful on that. To top off the good news, 1b is once again reformed, to 12 clubs of which 4 reserve teams (club Brugge, Anderlecht, Genk and probably gent) making it a complete micky mouse competition. The first 6 play a play off at the end of the season to determine the 1 promotion spot… reserve teams can’t promote. I expect a huge downfall in attendances, the horrible team management, corrupt arbitration and a ridiculous format next season. I think I will cross the channel more than once to see some proper football.
 
Bloody hell! Football eh?

This was the timeline for Chateauroux playing against 1st place Laval:

3' losing 1-0
24' down to 10 men
89' down to 9 men
90+2' 1-1

😂
 

"Ex-Dundee United striker Lawrence Shankland has revealed that he has no relegation clause in his Beerschot contract. (Football Scotland)"

Possibly not great financially
Why is there possibly not great financially?

He's referring to the fact some players have a relegation release clause. Once relegated they can walk for nothing or for a minimum fee.

I didn't see any reference to what happens to his wages. But I can't imagine he'll be on that much.
 
United World leading to 3 relegations with 3 different teams does tell a story. They can’t deny they have a problem with know how.
The thing is, we've seen this before. People have made out that United World is better than the project that McCabe tried 20 years ago with Central Coast Mariners, Chengdu and Ferencvaros.

In my view the last deal was a lot better, we had Chinese players who in turn attracted students from the universities into the empty seats we had at the time. We also got to watch Sun Knee-High a few times in between his suspensions (we'll forget about Li Tie and the Chinese Alan Shearer!)

We sent a couple of players to Ferencvaros and Lowton seemed to develop well out if it, can't recall if any more did.

The CCM bit benefitted Montgomery and pretty much no one else before or after, McCabe probably got a few trips to Australia paid for by the club though.

With the current United World I've seen nothing at all that could be deemed successful.
 
Perhaps Brexit has got in the way of getting work permits for overseas players
That was the only benefit I could see from this United World
Brexit was happening when they bought these clubs so it's pretty shit forward planning if that's the case.

I'm still waiting to see what rough diamonds we get sent from Kerala United!
 
The thing is, we've seen this before. People have made out that United World is better than the project that McCabe tried 20 years ago with Central Coast Mariners, Chengdu and Ferencvaros.

In my view the last deal was a lot better, we had Chinese players who in turn attracted students from the universities into the empty seats we had at the time. We also got to watch Sun Knee-High a few times in between his suspensions (we'll forget about Li Tie and the Chinese Alan Shearer!)

We sent a couple of players to Ferencvaros and Lowton seemed to develop well out if it, can't recall if any more did.

The CCM bit benefitted Montgomery and pretty much no one else before or after, McCabe probably got a few trips to Australia paid for by the club though.

With the current United World I've seen nothing at all that could be deemed successful.


There was the White Star club from Belgium. Like CCM and Fradi though, any costs or funding came via the Scarborough Group, not the FC or Plc.
 
There was the White Star club from Belgium. Like CCM and Fradi though, any costs or funding came via the Scarborough Group, not the FC or Plc.
Didn't realise White Star is no more. Dissolved in 2017. Didn't we place a couple of Jamaican players there?
 
There was the White Star club from Belgium. Like CCM and Fradi though, any costs or funding came via the Scarborough Group, not the FC or Plc.
I always thought that there were some consultancy fees in the accounts
 
Bloody hell! Football eh?

This was the timeline for Chateauroux playing against 1st place Laval:

3' losing 1-0
24' down to 10 men
89' down to 9 men
90+2' 1-1

😂
Having pulled a draw out of the fire it looked like Chateauroux were in a good place to finally mount a challenge on the top three promotion spots.

Perhaps a positive contrast to the ongoing woes of Beerschot?

Not to be I'm afraid.

After a draw against 1st and 3rd, next up at home was Boulogne, who sat in 18th out of 18 at home. A win would take them from 7th to 6th, but crucially within 4 points of third with 7 still to play.

It certainly didn't go to plan. I didn't really see the game but from interviews post match it seemed Chateauroux were lacking energy and after a goalless first half, contrived to go down 1-0 at home to the bottom dwellers of the division. Take a look. Pretty poor goalkeeping to not either hold or push away from goal the shot:



They now have it all to do, sitting 7th and 7 behind 3rd spot. They play 16th placed Chambly away, 10th placed Red Star at home and 11th placed US Orleans away in what are three crucial games to catch up.

It certainly not hard to see why they were doomed at the bottom of Ligue Deux when the Prince first got involved if this is the sort of result some of them are capable of. Pretty poor losing to a teams that had only won twice in 25 matches. So this is one success story that will have to be put on hold!

Over to Beershot who, doomed by now, could be forgiven for thinking that nothing is going to go their way with Biebauw, Dom, Van den Bergh, Avanatti and Sebaoui, all current first choices st GK, RB, CB, AM, CF, all missing through injury.

They faced off against Sint Truiden from Limburg, on the border with the Netherlands. Nicknamed the Canaries, they are 9th in the league and boast US born Japan keeper Daniel Schmidt, who I thought looked decent and ex-Dortmund veteran Shinji Kagawa on the bench. They have quite a large Japanese contingent which I'm sure is driven by their sponsor DMM.com.

Beerschot lined up with a back 4, diverting from recent back 5s, with Lejoly, their inexperienced keeper in goal with Vanhamel remaining persona non-grata, Halaimia at right back, Radic and Bourdin as centre backs and De Smet on the left. Pietermaat, Rigo and Sanusi were the midfield with Vaca, Suzuki, and Shankland charged with finding the goals.

After Bruls has a goal disallowed the Belgium midfielder didn't need a second invitation and guided the ball over Lejoly's outstretched hand and into the far corner.

It came as some surprise that after Vaca played him through Suzuki pulled out a smart early finish from just outside the box across the keeper and into the far corner to mark his first goal in over a year. A really smart finish from someone who hasn't done anywhere near enough to justify the 1m+ spent on him.

Unfortunately as is the tale of the season, the joy was to be shortlived. Radic got drawn to the ball as a cross came in from the right and the player he was supposed to be marking better anticipated the cross which went over the Beerschot player's head and was planted into the near post by Hara.

A great save from Schmidt soon after kept out a Radic header just before the break as Beerschot showed they were not yet done in this game.

The same player would make amends for his earlier oversight. The fading star from last season Holzhauser was on for Rigo who himself had a long range shot just wide to try to equalise. Holzhauser's far post corner was flicked back into the danger area by Shankland and Radic slammed the ball into the roof of the net to bring about 2-2 on 67 minutes.

That is as good as it gets really. Trying to force the game, Coulibaly entered the fray with 5 minutes remaining, replacing Pietermaat. Unfortunately I have him down as contributing to the winner for Sint Truiden. The bal got part cleared from a corner and he kind of rushed out to the guy with the ball who went wide, he didn't properly track him and in no time he was in the area and the ball was in the keeper's far right corner. A bitter pill to swallow and surely the lat chance of points for Beerschot this season in all honestly. Next up at home (with no fans due to the guy who threw a flare into the Antwerp fans earlier in the season) to Cercle Brugge who are second and then away to Union Saint-Gilloise who are top and one point away from being crowned champions.



I saw some notes proposing Radic remains in the United World Group and joins United. Having not seen Lopata other than his league cup bow, it is difficult to accurately compare but Radic is of a similar ilk to what Lopata is supposed to be. He's not going to be an overlapping centre back. He is 1cm shorter than Lopata so a good size. He's 21 and has represented Croatia at all levels up to U20. Definitely not the finished article and I would worry about him coming straight into one of the top two divisions. He is quite aggressive, though that has seen him see red once this season and that was for two yellows. He took 4 yellows in 30 games so he's far from a liability. I would see him and Lopata as vying for the same spot really. Unless we drop overlapping or pushing on entirely. I don't see him as this type at all.
 
Didn't realise White Star is no more. Dissolved in 2017. Didn't we place a couple of Jamaican players there?
Demar Stewart was one, went on to also play for our other team Chengdu and managed 10 caps for Jamaica. You're right about there being two I think but I can't find anything about the other.

 
I always thought that there were some consultancy fees in the accounts


Only costs relating to Chengdu affected the Plc as far as I’m aware.

If there were consultancy fees l’d expect them to be received rather than paid, but to Scarborough.
 
Only costs relating to Chengdu affected the Plc as far as I’m aware.

If there were consultancy fees l’d expect them to be received rather than paid, but to Scarborough.
I thought we sent over about 2m of the Kyle Walker money at the time as a one of payment. I seem to recall it being admitted by McCabe more or less i.e. 2m going out there at pretty much the same time as us cashing in on Walker and Naughton as it was debated at the time.

 

I thought we sent over about 2m of the Kyle Walker money at the time as a one of payment. I seem to recall it being admitted by McCabe more or less i.e. 2m going out there at pretty much the same time as us cashing in on Walker and Naughton as it was debated at the time.



The accounts are more likely to tell the story more accurately than WSC. The Chinese operation was discontinued in 2009 and disposed of, l think in 2010 or 2011.
KW was sold in July 2009, no mention in the 2010 accounts of the £2m ( which is a new one on me). In fact, looking at the discontinued operations relating to Chengdu in 2010 actually show more turnover than costs, prior to the share write off referred to in the 2009 accounts. From memory
 

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