Baxter's role, and performance vs Blackpool

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I read very contrasting opinions on Jose Baxter following our 2-0 home win against Blackpool on Saturday. Some said he bossed midfield, others claimed he didn't do enough, and some even said his distribution was awful.


I decided to have a close look at his performance. At first I thought about counting every single pass, but after three minutes I realised that would be far too much work, as he was very involved and surely made far more passes than any other player on the pitch.


Instead I skipped the neutral passes. These are the "easy" ones, short, often sideways and backwards to an unmarked teammate and when under little pressure.


There were loads of these as he's been given a very central role in Nigel Adkins' team, he's a holding, or deep-lying, playmaker. He comes short for the ball, trying to always be an option when the defenders start building an attack. When our players are well closed down they often look to pass it back to Baxter in support. Very rarely did Baxter make off the ball runs forward, and this isn't because he's unable to do it. It is clearly his instruction to not venture too far forward. Defensively he's got to be in a position to protect the back four if the opposition counters. His job is to start off moves, to get us playing, to keep things ticking, to up and dictate the pace of the game.


I think we must learn to accept that this is his current role. Those expecting Baxter to be a goal threat, make runs into the box, regularly getting beyond the strikers, will be frustrated if Adkins' keeps his current set up. He may not even get many assists as it's difficult to get a lot of them from such a deep, restricted, position.


Our wide men (JCR and Adams) against Blackpool were more attacking than what's the norm in modern 4-4-2 formations. When that's the case it becomes even more important for the central midfield duo to hold back more. Basham was also restricted, and only when we looked to get crosses in, did he try to get into the box and get on the end of things.

Baxter going short.jpg
* With Blackpool packing midfield it was hard for Baxter to be too adventurous with his passing from his deep position, and he had to go short most of the time.


Anyway, back to the analysis of Baxter. I noted all his


  • great passes
  • misplaced passes



Great passes


7' Penetrating pass, finds JCR centrally

8' Good pass out to Adams 1on1 with full back

21' Picked up clearence, directly set up JCR with a 1 on 1 with his full back

40' Loses two men and finds K.Wallace in space out wide

41' Superb pass, finding K.Wallace running in behind into box (Sammon shot over, first time JB found space in an advanced position)


2nd half:


20' Excellent threaded pass to McNulty, who found Sharp, who passed backwards

25' Clever pass up to Sharp

28' Got involved a bit higher up, set up J.W with a 1 on 1 out wide​



Misplaced passes


5' Looked an easy pass to JCR, but it went straight out for a throw in

7' Ambitious pass to JCR in middle, lacked accuracy

9' Forward pass blocked, bit sloppy

14' Tried lifting ball out to wing, went out for goal kick, run wasn't there

32' Tried forward pass, intercepted. Think he lost patience, as we really struggled to penetrate at this stage.

*43' Mishit pass to Freeman in a wide position, loss of concentration. Set up chance to break, but Baxter actually stopped it with a strong tackle

45' Tried long pass to Sammon, went out of play


2nd half:


19' Hopeful ball over the top to McNulty, but overhit, gk got it​




With the amount of passes he made (probably 100+?) I think his pass completion must have been pretty good. There was also just one occasion (*) where he lost the ball dangerously.


The 'easy' playmaking part, touch, turn and passing it on, he does quite well and it's easy to see he's got natural ability and a lot of composure on the ball. His partner Basham lacks this ability usually just gave it to Baxter. This slows us down at times. Adams had an off game and Sharp and Sammon also struggled to get involved, which meant we created very little until JCR started beating his man. I think this made Baxter a bit impatient and tried a couple of hopeful passes.


Defensively Baxter has improved after finally getting fit enough for this level of football. He back tracks, chases and holds his position much better, although he lets Basham do more of this when it's possible. Baxter also won a lot of headers and made a couple of strong tackles too. Blackpool didn't attack too much, but I didn't feel Baxter was the defensive liability he was last season.

There were some decent passes, but there must be better movement in front of him for him to have even more attacking impact.

Summary

If you accept Baxter's role for what it is, playmaking from deep, he did a decent job. Blackpool dropped deep and our forwards/wide men really struggled to find space. When games are like that, people may start to look for other people to contribute more and maybe that's why some people didn't rate Baxter's performance.

I think Adkins' substitutions also suggest that he, too, saw the performances of the front players as our biggest problem on the day, and credit to him, he changed it and we got the win in the end, although the team's performance was far from convincing. Baxter? 7/10 from me.
 



I like Baxter in this role, and have seen enough already from him this season to be encouraged about his future in the role. He doesn't look bad at all, considering he joined us as an Attacking mid/Second striker.
 
Im happy to accept that as his role, but I think the frustration (at least on my part) comes from knowing he is a goal threat but won't be scoring from so deep. The role you describe sounds perfectly suited to Reed and I'm looking forward to seeing him in this role at some stage of the season.

Probably pick of the midfield yesterday. I also thought Woolford and Wallace looked much better than Adams and Basham who were both disappointing.
 
What you are really saying is he is playing like McCall used to without having that quality.
As for the 'wide' men, the pitch has been narrowed and JCR has been told to not hug the wing and come inside a lot more. Blackpool neutralised Che Adams and he was very ineffective until he switched just before he was taken off. Should he be given more freedom to roam? this may depend on the opposition. What is becoming clear is that Atkins likes to work a much narrower game. This will definitely suit McNulty and should result in goals coming from all different sources.
 
I read very contrasting opinions on Jose Baxter following our 2-0 home win against Blackpool on Saturday. Some said he bossed midfield, others claimed he didn't do enough, and some even said his distribution was awful.


I decided to have a close look at his performance. At first I thought about counting every single pass, but after three minutes I realised that would be far too much work, as he was very involved and surely made far more passes than any other player on the pitch.


Instead I skipped the neutral passes. These are the "easy" ones, short, often sideways and backwards to an unmarked teammate and when under little pressure.


There were loads of these as he's been given a very central role in Nigel Adkins' team, he's a holding, or deep-lying, playmaker. He comes short for the ball, trying to always be an option when the defenders start building an attack. When our players are well closed down they often look to pass it back to Baxter in support. Very rarely did Baxter make off the ball runs forward, and this isn't because he's unable to do it. It is clearly his instruction to not venture too far forward. Defensively he's got to be in a position to protect the back four if the opposition counters. His job is to start off moves, to get us playing, to keep things ticking, to up and dictate the pace of the game.


I think we must learn to accept that this is his current role. Those expecting Baxter to be a goal threat, make runs into the box, regularly getting beyond the strikers, will be frustrated if Adkins' keeps his current set up. He may not even get many assists as it's difficult to get a lot of them from such a deep, restricted, position.


Our wide men (JCR and Adams) against Blackpool were more attacking than what's the norm in modern 4-4-2 formations. When that's the case it becomes even more important for the central midfield duo to hold back more. Basham was also restricted, and only when we looked to get crosses in, did he try to get into the box and get on the end of things.

View attachment 13003
* With Blackpool packing midfield it was hard for Baxter to be too adventurous with his passing from his deep position, and he had to go short most of the time.


Anyway, back to the analysis of Baxter. I noted all his


  • great passes
  • misplaced passes



Great passes


7' Penetrating pass, finds JCR centrally

8' Good pass out to Adams 1on1 with full back

21' Picked up clearence, directly set up JCR with a 1 on 1 with his full back

40' Loses two men and finds K.Wallace in space out wide

41' Superb pass, finding K.Wallace running in behind into box (Sammon shot over, first time JB found space in an advanced position)


2nd half:


20' Excellent threaded pass to McNulty, who found Sharp, who passed backwards

25' Clever pass up to Sharp

28' Got involved a bit higher up, set up J.W with a 1 on 1 out wide​



Misplaced passes


5' Looked an easy pass to JCR, but it went straight out for a throw in

7' Ambitious pass to JCR in middle, lacked accuracy

9' Forward pass blocked, bit sloppy

14' Tried lifting ball out to wing, went out for goal kick, run wasn't there

32' Tried forward pass, intercepted. Think he lost patience, as we really struggled to penetrate at this stage.

*43' Mishit pass to Freeman in a wide position, loss of concentration. Set up chance to break, but Baxter actually stopped it with a strong tackle

45' Tried long pass to Sammon, went out of play


2nd half:


19' Hopeful ball over the top to McNulty, but overhit, gk got it​




With the amount of passes he made (probably 100+?) I think his pass completion must have been pretty good. There was also just one occasion (*) where he lost the ball dangerously.


The 'easy' playmaking part, touch, turn and passing it on, he does quite well and it's easy to see he's got natural ability and a lot of composure on the ball. His partner Basham lacks this ability usually just gave it to Baxter. This slows us down at times. Adams had an off game and Sharp and Sammon also struggled to get involved, which meant we created very little until JCR started beating his man. I think this made Baxter a bit impatient and tried a couple of hopeful passes.


Defensively Baxter has improved after finally getting fit enough for this level of football. He back tracks, chases and holds his position much better, although he lets Basham do more of this when it's possible. Baxter also won a lot of headers and made a couple of strong tackles too. Blackpool didn't attack too much, but I didn't feel Baxter was the defensive liability he was last season.

There were some decent passes, but there must be better movement in front of him for him to have even more attacking impact.

Summary

If you accept Baxter's role for what it is, playmaking from deep, he did a decent job. Blackpool dropped deep and our forwards/wide men really struggled to find space. When games are like that, people may start to look for other people to contribute more and maybe that's why some people didn't rate Baxter's performance.

I think Adkins' substitutions also suggest that he, too, saw the performances of the front players as our biggest problem on the day, and credit to him, he changed it and we got the win in the end, although the team's performance was far from convincing. Baxter? 7/10 from me.
Wow, your analysis makes mine seem like one of those goons that call up praise or grumble just to say
"played reyt well t'day did t'blades".
 
What you are really saying is he is playing like McCall used to without having that quality.

Pretty much. But then, a McCall in this league would be crazy. He was a league above most when he was playing in the Championship...
 
Baxter played a deeper role a couple of times for Clough and played quite well there. I think it's his best position.

His number of misplaced passes annoys me but if he wasn't as sloppy as he is, he'd be playing at a higher level. As analysed there were a lot in the first half.

Adko keeps mentioning we need to pass quicker and I agree with him. But will that lead to more misplaced passes from Baxter ? Hard to say but once the team clicks I expect him to become more influential. I think Adkins will get the best out of him eventually.

Here's hoping.
 
Baxter played a deeper role a couple of times for Clough and played quite well there. I think it's his best position.

His number of misplaced passes annoys me but if he wasn't as sloppy as he is, he'd be playing at a higher level. As analysed there were a lot in the first half.

Adko keeps mentioning we need to pass quicker and I agree with him. But will that lead to more misplaced passes from Baxter ? Hard to say but once the team clicks I expect him to become more influential. I think Adkins will get the best out of him eventually.

Here's hoping.

He does have misplaced passes, but I think the majority of those are from attempting passes no one else in the team would be willing or capable of making. I know he makes mistakes in easier passes also, but if everyone else made the same amount of passes, I imagine they would make more of the same mistakes.
 
Bergen Blade , about 10 minutes from the start of the match, a Blackpool player had the ball on the right with acres of space (but didnt do with it much after K Wallace ran 15 yards to him), was it the fault of Kieran Wallace or Che Adams who should have been there? If this happens again at Swindon it will be meat and drink to Nathan Byrne
 
5' Looked an easy pass to JCR, but it went straight out for a throw in
7' Ambitious pass to JCR in middle, lacked accuracy
9' Forward pass blocked, bit sloppy

This is the sequence I saw - and I think all of these were from what Jim might call "good field position"; that was what I found frustrating. But as the first half developed it was clear that the team as a whole were struggling. I think they'll learn from that, and if and when teams come and park the bus again we should be better prepared.

*43' Mishit pass to Freeman in a wide position, loss of concentration. Set up chance to break, but Baxter actually stopped it with a strong tackle

That really was a good tackle after a strong recovery run.
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Our last three managers have all seen fit to include Baxter in the starting line-up so he can't be that shit, can he? Surely our last three managers know more about what constitutes our strongest team than people posting on this forum*

*With the possible exception of Weir.
 
Our last three managers have all seen fit to include Baxter in the starting line-up so he can't be that shit, can he? Surely our last three managers know more about what constitutes our strongest team than people posting on this forum*

*With the possible exception of Weir.

He's been picked on potential for far too long. Now he's looking fit for the first time, I hope he actually fulfills it.

I actually agree with all Bergen's points above, but would have scored Baxter as a 6/10 based on exactly the same analysis. It all amounted to a satisfactory effort, not a good one.
 
I read very contrasting opinions on Jose Baxter following our 2-0 home win against Blackpool on Saturday. Some said he bossedK midfield, others claimed he didn't do enough, and some even said his distribution was awful.


I decided to have a close look at his performance. At first I thought about counting every single pass, but after three minutes I realised that would be far too much work, as he was very involved and surely made far more passes than any other player on the pitch.


Instead I skipped the neutral passes. These are the "easy" ones, short, often sideways and backwards to an unmarked teammate and when under little pressure.


There were loads of these as he's been given a very central role in Nigel Adkins' team, he's a holding, or deep-lying, playmaker. He comes short for the ball, trying to always be an option when the defenders start building an attack. When our players are well closed down they often look to pass it back to Baxter in support. Very rarely did Baxter make off the ball runs forward, and this isn't because he's unable to do it. It is clearly his instruction to not venture too far forward. Defensively he's got to be in a position to protect the back four if the opposition counters. His job is to start off moves, to get us playing, to keep things ticking, to up and dictate the pace of the game.


I think we must learn to accept that this is his current role. Those expecting Baxter to be a goal threat, make runs into the box, regularly getting beyond the strikers, will be frustrated if Adkins' keeps his current set up. He may not even get many assists as it's difficult to get a lot of them from such a deep, restricted, position.


Our wide men (JCR and Adams) against Blackpool were more attacking than what's the norm in modern 4-4-2 formations. When that's the case it becomes even more important for the central midfield duo to hold back more. Basham was also restricted, and only when we looked to get crosses in, did he try to get into the box and get on the end of things.

View attachment 13003
* With Blackpool packing midfield it was hard for Baxter to be too adventurous with his passing from his deep position, and he had to go short most of the time.


Anyway, back to the analysis of Baxter. I noted all his


  • great passes
  • misplaced passes



Great passes


7' Penetrating pass, finds JCR centrally

8' Good pass out to Adams 1on1 with full back

21' Picked up clearence, directly set up JCR with a 1 on 1 with his full back

40' Loses two men and finds K.Wallace in space out wide

41' Superb pass, finding K.Wallace running in behind into box (Sammon shot over, first time JB found space in an advanced position)


2nd half:


20' Excellent threaded pass to McNulty, who found Sharp, who passed backwards

25' Clever pass up to Sharp

28' Got involved a bit higher up, set up J.W with a 1 on 1 out wide​



Misplaced passes


5' Looked an easy pass to JCR, but it went straight out for a throw in

7' Ambitious pass to JCR in middle, lacked accuracy

9' Forward pass blocked, bit sloppy

14' Tried lifting ball out to wing, went out for goal kick, run wasn't there

32' Tried forward pass, intercepted. Think he lost patience, as we really struggled to penetrate at this stage.

*43' Mishit pass to Freeman in a wide position, loss of concentration. Set up chance to break, but Baxter actually stopped it with a strong tackle

45' Tried long pass to Sammon, went out of play


2nd half:


19' Hopeful ball over the top to McNulty, but overhit, gk got it​




With the amount of passes he made (probably 100+?) I think his pass completion must have been pretty good. There was also just one occasion (*) where he lost the ball dangerously.


The 'easy' playmaking part, touch, turn and passing it on, he does quite well and it's easy to see he's got natural ability and a lot of composure on the ball. His partner Basham lacks this ability usually just gave it to Baxter. This slows us down at times. Adams had an off game and Sharp and Sammon also struggled to get involved, which meant we created very little until JCR started beating his man. I think this made Baxter a bit impatient and tried a couple of hopeful passes.


Defensively Baxter has improved after finally getting fit enough for this level of football. He back tracks, chases and holds his position much better, although he lets Basham do more of this when it's possible. Baxter also won a lot of headers and made a couple of strong tackles too. Blackpool didn't attack too much, but I didn't feel Baxter was the defensive liability he was last season.

There were some decent passes, but there must be better movement in front of him for him to have even more attacking impact.

Summary

If you accept Baxter's role for what it is, playmaking from deep, he did a decent job. Blackpool dropped deep and our forwards/wide men really struggled to find space. When games are like that, people may start to look for other people to contribute more and maybe that's why some people didn't rate Baxter's performance.

I think Adkins' substitutions also suggest that he, too, saw the performances of the front players as our biggest problem on the day, and credit to him, he changed it and we got the win in the end, although the team's performance was far from convincing. Baxter? 7/10 from me.

Many thanks for thIs pT
ost. It has helped me appreciate jus how much the game has evolved from the 2 3 5 system. the game
 
He gets plenty of stick from people sat around us who seem to have no idea what they are looking at and then spout tripe about him.

Blackpool quite obviously cut off his route to billy and sammon which as you imply bergen makes his role very difficult. The same numpties were screaming at jcr to get out wide when he must have been told to play 'in the gap' and try and pick up the ball between baxter and the strikers.

He looks fitter and more interested and hopefully gets better in a side full of confidence.
 
Great post Bergen.

I keep saying it but it's very difficult for a ball playing mid to make those passes if there is little or no movement in front of him. In the first half, the best ball and move was when K Wallace made a great run behind the defender and JB found him with a lovely ball. A couple of times it was obvious that he made passes expecting runs that never came which results in him looking silly but it's normally the fault of the intended recipient. I also agree that a couple of times he made a couple of poor passes, particularly the one where he ended up tidying it up. As far as I can see, he's one of our very few players who plays with his head up, looking for an opportunity.

I note from your post that there were very few misplaced passes in the 2nd half and would suggest this is because the movement was much better and we were moving the ball quicker.
 



Personally I thought he played well. Seed to always try and pass forward. Attempted the difficult passes which worked well and sometimes didn't but that happens. He's very good at spraying the balls out to the wingers.

Some passes were too slow and took too long but most were good fast accurate passes.

For me he also seemed to work well with Basham
 
I look at it this way:

Do I want us to attack more and use 2 men up front? Yes

Will I therefore I accept 4 in midfield, rather than 3-5-2 or some variant thereon? Yes

Is there anyone on the books who can do as well as Baxter in the middle 2 with Basham? Possibly James Wallace in time, but he's being eased in slowly. Otherwise, no.

So can I live with Baxter not getting forward too much? Yes

I think Bergen is spot on. He's playing deeper because the system demands it. And aside from Gillingham, it's working well thus far. I would also venture to suggest that if we keep using 2 forward looking wide men and 2 up top it won't be too much of a problem.
 
I was sat there thinking what damage McDonald would have done in that position with that amount of possession on Saturday.

As Revolution says, it's working OK and he's probably the best man for the job at the moment but room for improvement definitely.
 
There's no point analysing baxter on Saturday, we had way too much possesion in that game..

People near me on the kop were frustrated, And all I thought was the team were conserving energy to last the whole 90mins...

You couldn't run em in that heat and not burn out in that first half.. it was an oven..
 
Spot on Bergen, I agree it's his role but think he's wasted there.

Superb in depth analysis which will surprise a few. I'm a Baxter fan and thought it was one of his poorer games.

Against Blackpool at home I question the manager and the need to hold both central midfielders back and therefore confine support to the front two to the two wide man ( our full backs didn't push on much to improve the situation). No wonder Blackpool had an easy ride first half and until the formation was changed. All well and good for away games first hour but surely not at home against Blackpool.

How about a similar analysis of Basham's game - that would be fascinating.
 
In a way we have two men performing Doyle's role and it's restricting us. Basham doesn't have the experience or the brain to play Doyle's role so to me it's obvious what type of player is needed, then the other midfielder can push on more and BTW I do not think Baxter is suited to that because he doesn't have the legs. Scougall's not suitable either for different reasons. J. Wallace can do it but at present even when he plays alongside Basham ( Morecambe) he held back most of the game. That night I thought it was due to lack of fitness but now realise it's the manager's instructions.
 
Bergen Blade , about 10 minutes from the start of the match, a Blackpool player had the ball on the right with acres of space (but didnt do with it much after K Wallace ran 15 yards to him), was it the fault of Kieran Wallace or Che Adams who should have been there? If this happens again at Swindon it will be meat and drink to Nathan Byrne

We were pulled a bit out of position for that attack following a throw in. McEveley pulled out to challenge their striker, but the ball fell nicely to their tall central midfielder Potts who ran down the wing. Wallace originally backed off with their right winger, but then decided he had to challenge Potts.

In theory Adams should probably have reacted to danger by dropping back a bit/tracking Potts, but I don't expect him to be able to do things like that. If we're going to play him on the wing there will be defensive situations where he'll be found wanting.
 
You have to look at the opposition ,a lost cause in the 3rd division who have virtually given up ,you say Sammon and Sharp couldn't get involved. Their movement is excellent and with JCR and Adams he had plenty of options ,he is the player who is supposed to open teams up ,we have given him the tools but if he cant do it against a very poor demotivated side like Blackpool at home in front of 20k fans when will he do it ? The guy has had 2 seasons of rank poor performances and shows no sign of improvement ,in my opinion we could do so much better.
 
All well and good for away games first hour but surely not at home against Blackpool.

I was surprised at Blackpool's total lack of ambition (I thought we'd get 4 or 5 and they'd get 2 or 3 down our left - that might be next Satdi :eek:).

Maybe Adkins was too.

The way I saw it the first half was so pedestrian mainly because as a team out on the pitch we didn't know how to adjust.

At half time, and I think here we really got the benefit of his experience, Adkins knew how to change things - and gave these instructions to the players. I think there was a 5 or 10 minute period just to see if Blackpool had changed their system - they hadn't, so the Operation swung into action.

Now the players have experienced this they should be better placed to adjust sooner - without waiting for half time - to breaking teams down, if and when it becomes apparent the opposition have decided to park the bus. Adkins will be able to relay instructions from the sidelines, and they will be able to change.

We are still only a handful of competitive games in and the manager and the players are getting to know the League and each other. There will still be times when things don't initially run as well as they might.

(I was just thinking the Blackpool game was like the Gillingham game in that respect but with an obviously different outcome.)
 
There were loads of these as he's been given a very central role in Nigel Adkins' team, he's a holding, or deep-lying, playmaker. He comes short for the ball, trying to always be an option when the defenders start building an attack. When our players are well closed down they often look to pass it back to Baxter in support. Very rarely did Baxter make off the ball runs forward, and this isn't because he's unable to do it. It is clearly his instruction to not venture too far forward. Defensively he's got to be in a position to protect the back four if the opposition counters. His job is to start off moves, to get us playing, to keep things ticking, to up and dictate the pace of the game.


I think we must learn to accept that this is his current role. Those expecting Baxter to be a goal threat, make runs into the box, regularly getting beyond the strikers, will be frustrated if Adkins' keeps his current set up. He may not even get many assists as it's difficult to get a lot of them from such a deep, restricted, position.

Great analysis and I think this nails it.

I wonder if over time we will play higher up and thereby keep a closer connection between the central midfield and front two. I'm beginning to doubt it: it looks like we intentionally stay deep and the wide midfielders move into the gap between the forwards and the central midfield - it's almost as though we're playing a 4-2-2-2.

Other things happen as well (eg Baxter's goal at Peterborough) but it's noticeable to me how often left midfield ends up in an attacking position forward on the right. I see that when they are jogging back towards us either after a goal or after the attack breaks down.

We still manage to get bodies in the box a lot, though not all, of the time.
 
He looked like he attempted to play a couple on 'no look' passes against peterborough both of which went awry. Was he trying any of this against Blackpool
 
You have to look at the opposition ,a lost cause in the 3rd division who have virtually given up ,you say Sammon and Sharp couldn't get involved. Their movement is excellent and with JCR and Adams he had plenty of options ,he is the player who is supposed to open teams up ,we have given him the tools but if he cant do it against a very poor demotivated side like Blackpool at home in front of 20k fans when will he do it ? The guy has had 2 seasons of rank poor performances and shows no sign of improvement ,in my opinion we could do so much better.

I think watching the game in the first half doesn't bear this out. Sammon and Sharp were working tirelessly, and credit to them for that, but their movement was covered often by simple weight of numbers. Che had a poor game. JCR was the main outlet and could have been involved more. As soon as he was - after half time - we were breaking through.
 
We were pulled a bit out of position for that attack following a throw in. McEveley pulled out to challenge their striker, but the ball fell nicely to their tall central midfielder Potts who ran down the wing. Wallace originally backed off with their right winger, but then decided he had to challenge Potts.

In theory Adams should probably have reacted to danger by dropping back a bit/tracking Potts, but I don't expect him to be able to do things like that. If we're going to play him on the wing there will be defensive situations where he'll be found wanting.
Cheers Bergen, let's hope Adkins will make sure that there wont be a repeat of this
 
The good thing about Baxter at the moment is that he's moving the ball quicker than he used to. When you have players interchanging with Salmon and Sharp running the channels this is vital. I think sometimes he can be slack and this is where our team lacks some leadership, however his performance have been better in the 2 home games.

Maybe people should look closer at Basham, who's tackles are more recovery than winning the ball in midfield and his passes rarely go forward. He would be the perfect foil for Edgar in my humble one.
 



What you are really saying is he is playing like McCall used to without having that quality.
As for the 'wide' men, the pitch has been narrowed and JCR has been told to not hug the wing and come inside a lot more. Blackpool neutralised Che Adams and he was very ineffective until he switched just before he was taken off. Should he be given more freedom to roam? this may depend on the opposition. What is becoming clear is that Atkins likes to work a much narrower game. This will definitely suit McNulty and should result in goals coming from all different sources.

Is that true about the pitch, that it's narrower than before? I don't really know much about the effect of this, but would have thought it made it more difficult against deep defending teams. With us playing narrower in midfield as you say it may be that Adkins has decided this.

I look at it this way:

Do I want us to attack more and use 2 men up front? Yes

Will I therefore I accept 4 in midfield, rather than 3-5-2 or some variant thereon? Yes

Is there anyone on the books who can do as well as Baxter in the middle 2 with Basham? Possibly James Wallace in time, but he's being eased in slowly. Otherwise, no.

So can I live with Baxter not getting forward too much? Yes

I think Bergen is spot on. He's playing deeper because the system demands it. And aside from Gillingham, it's working well thus far. I would also venture to suggest that if we keep using 2 forward looking wide men and 2 up top it won't be too much of a problem.

Sadly, there is no perfect system (4-5-2 would be good!) and as the game evolves player roles within the formations must be tweaked. I think there are a number of formations that can be successful, but it will always be about getting the balance right offensively and defensively. I see potential problems with our current set up, but let's hope we improve as the team gels, and that our big squad will compensate when individuals are struggling.
 

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