Basham

[Fulwood Blade]

I thought he was poor against Bristol but much improved last Saturday. Is he perfect? No. Are we a Third Division team? Yes.

Apart from Alcock, who actually played well v Brizzle?

As for Crawley - Basham was ok, and again a fair few, especially in the 1st half were pretty shite. As for the 2nd half, BAsham actually changed rolls - he sat deeper and rarely went forward - hence the change in how we approached the game. Until Baxter went off, he and Murphy had switched, coupled with Basham tending to stay next to Doyle meant we played a tad better.

People seem to have a downer on Basham, can't see why myself.

What is certain is you and everyone else are going to have to get used to him as he is one of the first three on the team sheet. Clough has made that very plain. God help Wallace when he eventually gets at the side of Basham, some people on here are going to have field day as to who to slag off which week.

Give the lad and the other new recruits a bit of slack.

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[Pinchy]

Apart from Alcock, who actually played well v Brizzle?

As for Crawley - Basham was ok, and again a fair few, especially in the 1st half were pretty shite. As for the 2nd half, BAsham actually changed rolls - he sat deeper and rarely went forward - hence the change in how we approached the game. Until Baxter went off, he and Murphy had switched, coupled with Basham tending to stay next to Doyle meant we played a tad better.

People seem to have a downer on Basham, can't see why myself.

What is certain is you and everyone else are going to have to get used to him as he is one of the first three on the team sheet. Clough has made that very plain. God help Wallace when he eventually gets at the side of Basham, some people on here are going to have field day as to who to slag off which week.

Give the lad and the other new recruits a bit of slack.

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Comment on here is fine, surely? I have been known to dip my pen in vitriol myself, from time to time.

What I can't accept is the slowly increasing rumble of discontent, at the first misplaced pass, rising to a crescendo of boos by full-time.

Some of our fans are a shameful embarrassment I'm afraid. I can just see them at the Royal Shakespeare:
"Olivier, you wanker, that soliloquy was fucking shite. You're the worst Hamlet we've ever seen..... Booooooo....."

 

[alcoblade]

that soliloquy was fucking shite."

You're learning

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[Bladesway]

Basham has got no chance with our fans I'm afraid, Higdon could start scoring goals and all will be forgotten, but the style of player Basham is he's doomed to be our scapegoat as long as he's here. Thought he was fine yesterday myself, especially for a new signing, same with the Bristol game.

Out of interest did anyone rate Higdon more than about 3/10 yesterday? Woeful and worse than anything I havbe seen from Porter.

 

[wizadry]

Out of interest did anyone rate Higdon more than about 3/10 yesterday? Woeful and worse than anything I havbe seen from Porter.

He was shite Bladesway ,and people was saying he couldn't trap a bag of sand,but did you see the goal,he took the ball down beatifully on his chest and brought Davies into play brilliantly.But you're right,apart from that he wasn't good.

 

[Bergen Blade]

He was shite Bladesway ,and people was saying he couldn't trap a bag of sand,but did you see the goal,he took the ball down beatifully on his chest and brought Davies into play brilliantly.But you're right,apart from that he wasn't good.

There were a couple of times where his disappointing touch was due to losing balance following a challenge, and once where his foot was kicked a split second before his actual first touch, meaning it looked crap. For a big man his touch has looked decent to me before Saturday, but he does need to get fit.

Him and Baxter aren't ideal up front. They're not mobile or quick enough and both like to come for the ball, rather than running in behind or down the channels. Neither seem able to outpace defenders when crosses are going to the first post. As Baxter was playing slightly deeper Higdon tended to just hang around on the 18 yard line being marked out of the game by the centre halves.

 

[wizadry]

There were a couple of times where his disappointing touch was due to losing balance following a challenge, and once where his foot was kicked a split second before his actual first touch, meaning it looked crap. For a big man his touch has looked decent to me before Saturday, but he does need to get fit.

Him and Baxter aren't ideal up front. They're not mobile or quick enough and both like to come for the ball, rather than running in behind or down the channels. Neither seem able to outpace defenders when crosses are going to the first post. As Baxter was playing slightly deeper Higdon tended to just hang around on the 18 yard line being marked out of the game by the centre halves.

You say Higdon and Baxter aren't ideal because of their mobility,but sometimes if you use your brain and let the ball do the work,you don't need to be as mobile or as quick as you think.

 

[Woodwardfan]

My beef about Basham is when he is picked it will mean one of Wallace, Scougall or Baxter doesn't play.

If he can prove he can do the disciplined role that Doyle does then all well and good, but at present he is trying to do the attacking midfield role, with little effect. He is not competing with Doyle for a place in the team at present.

 

[wizadry]

My beef about Basham is when he is picked it will mean one of Wallace, Scougall or Baxter doesn't play.

If he can prove he can do the disciplined role that Doyle does then all well and good, but at present he is trying to do the attacking midfield role, with little effect. He is not competing with Doyle for a place in the team at present.

Wallace and Basham will play together and then its a toss up between about 4 others who will get the other slot.

 

[Bergen Blade]

You say Higdon and Baxter aren't ideal because of their mobility,but sometimes if you use your brain and let the ball do the work,you don't need to be as mobile or as quick as you think.

As proven by how many famous static strike partnerships? I agree that it is possible, but then you usually need the pace, dribbling and movement coming from elsewhere, and probably an outstanding goalgetter/finisher.

 

[wizadry]

As proven by how many famous static strike partnerships? I agree that it is possible, but then you usually need the pace, dribbling and movement coming from elsewhere, and probably an outstanding goalgetter/finisher.

I'm not saying be completely static.Look at the Baxter goal at peterborough,the little 1/2 he did with McNulty took 3 players out of the game,all this was just by him using his brain and letting the ball do the work.

 

[Bergen Blade]

I'm not saying be completely static.Look at the Baxter goal at peterborough,the little 1/2 he did with McNulty took 3 players out of the game,all this was just by him using his brain and letting the ball do the work.

But he played with McNulty in that game, who is more mobile than Higdon and who did well to chase and hold a long ball prior to that goal. Baxter played the 1/2 with Basham. It was a great goal though, and showed the talent of Baxter.

 

[wizadry]

But he played with McNulty in that game, who is more mobile than Higdon and who did well to chase and hold a long ball prior to that goal. Baxter played the 1/2 with Basham. It was a great goal though, and showed the talent of Baxter.

Sorry i stand corrected,it was Basham, but was still a great goal as you rightly say and just goes to show what you can do when you're not quick or very mobile.I'd just like to add,Baxter is a class apart in this division,no doubt about it.

 

[Rupicola]

I think he will come good. Look at coach first half last season

 

[Rupicola]

He'll come good look at coach last year

 

[Rupicola]

Coady not coach

 

[JOEYDEE]

Though he had a decent game...someone called him 'the new Monty'

I hope so!

I hope fkn not !!!!

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Gone quiet on the Basham front, are we waiting for the next defeat

 

[forever_blade]

I'll admit I've not been Basham's biggest fan since his arrival as I've previously said I'm just not entirely sure what he brings to the table but the lad was an absolute warrior last night & one thing he does bring to the table is ENERGY, as Clough's stated in his interview he covered every blade of grass on Upton Park

Keep up the good work & the progress Chris, not the finished article by any means but he's improving game upon game

 

[Latters]

Gone quiet on the Basham front, are we waiting for the next defeat

When you say "gone quiet" I'm not sure what you were expecting. I didn't go last night so haven't seen him play since the original post.

I don't place such importance on him to deem an "I didn't go last night so haven't seen him play since the weekend, but still don't rate Basham" post worthwhile.

Also, it was a victory I didn't rate him in.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

bit mean not rating Basham after just a few games. If you don't rate him that's fine but you do realise that Clough does and he will be one of the first names on the team sheet.

How about calling a truce and then reassess after lets say half a season?

Seem to remember Bob Booker starting in a similar way and the rest was history............

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[Kenilworth]

In the first half last night (well form 12 mins on when we finally got into the ground) I thought Basham was very quiet and I hardly noticed him - in the second half he grew more and more into the game. In ET he was strong and resolute and still making forward runs right up to the end to support the breaking attacks - it was by far the best game I have seen him play for us. Maybe that's because he had something to prove, personally, to Big Sam and Kevin Nolan (he used to be his boot boy at Bolton) but I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he is growing into the role, much as Coady did under Clough last season

This tells me that he will become more and more influential as the season goes on. He is not the most gifted but he has the physical attributes required to do the job, box to box, and it's clear from the performance he put in last night that he has the guts and desire to take on the workload to achieve this.

Let's see how he develops and let's see how we progress as a midfield when Wallace is firing on all cylinders - he looks strong and appears to be a real presence. If that's what he is like 70% fit then we might have at last landed on the battling midfielder that will boss the opposition and create the platform for the more gifted players to unlock them.

 

[Latters]

I thought I'd show myself up by giving this thread a bump. Basham was very good tonight and looks a lot better in defence than he does in midfield. Hopefully he will continue to prove my initial assessment wrong as we keep more clean sheets throughout the remainder of the season.

 

[JohnDenver]

I thought I'd show myself up by giving this thread a bump. Basham was very good tonight and looks a lot better in defence than he does in midfield. Hopefully he will continue to prove my initial assessment wrong as we keep more clean sheets throughout the remainder of the season.

Plus he looked a defender who's very capable on the ball. HM1 and Brayford have left us short in that department so it's great to see.

 

[wizadry]

While your bumping the thread i'll just add this from some time in September

Basham is not a CAM,just have a look at his career,he has never played there so why at the age of 26 Cloughy is playing him there i'll never know.Try him at CB or DM,thats where he's played all the way through his career and thats where he should stay.Cloughy really has done some strange things tactically this season and there's only him who can tell us why.

6 goals in 127 appearances,need i say anymore.

 

[Latters]

While your bumping the thread i'll just add this from some time in September

Alright, smart arse!

 

[sheffielder]

I thought I'd show myself up by giving this thread a bump. Basham was very good tonight and looks a lot better in defence than he does in midfield. Hopefully he will continue to prove my initial assessment wrong as we keep more clean sheets throughout the remainder of the season.

Not sure how you're showing yourself up. The guy was on a hiding to nothing in the role first provided. He looked more at home last night and hopefully NC might be able to persuade him into a career move. He certainly isn't someone who could do the same job as Doyle, Reed or Wallace.

Probably the most comfortable I have been at CB this season, apart from the McGahey mix up, which wouldn't have happened if Alcock hadn't ducked out of the first through ball.

 

[boo radley]

I thought I'd show myself up by giving this thread a bump. Basham was very good tonight and looks a lot better in defence than he does in midfield. Hopefully he will continue to prove my initial assessment wrong as we keep more clean sheets throughout the remainder of the season.

I said elsewhere that I hope he turns in to this seasons version of Coady. I saw nothing in Coady early season last but then look what happened. Basham seams to be coming good months earlier though.

 

[sitwell]

We have lacked a centre half who can run forward with the ball since Maguire. Basham did that a couple of times last night. I also liked the way he and Doyle just went up to Magahey after his mistake and had a quiet word and calmed him down.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

It saddens me that numerous people wanted to have a pop at NUMEROUS of the signings early on, including Basham

Basham is proving what a consistent and adaptive player he is. He is versatile and can fit in almost anywhere on the park.

He will probably never be a 9 out of 10, but you get 7 out 10 each game from him.

Give the lad a break - he did ok last night in virtually a new position for us.

Cloughs praise for Basham was "He competed for everything" - that is what he gives us.

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