Bamford - referees don't like our captains

[Tony Currie]

It takes a certain personality to be a referee. They often have to make the match about them and hate it when anyone questions them. Last week it was Tanganga who made some valid points to the ref regarding the Soumare sending off - as soon as he committed a foul he was off. This week Bamford had spoke to the ref not long before the second Yellow and he is off.

Looking at the Sky replay the goalie definitely made contact, we have a strong case to appeal, but what do you think the FA will do - Typically, only about 10% to 20% of appealed red cards are successfully overturned and you risk and increased ban. Clubs only appeal when they believe it is clearly wrong the FA just back the Ref's.

 

[Bladesman]

Can't appeal two yellows can we?

 

[PokerBlade]

Can't appeal two yellows can we?

We cannot.

Also, I thought it was a dive. And the first yellow was pure stupidity.

Not going to make a big thing of it because he's been brilliant, but I struggle to give Patrick Bamford the benefit of the doubt when it comes to falling over in the box.

 

[Weasel]

We need to live with it and move on. Maybe a one game break wont do him any harm anyway. Its the 3 game bans that are really disappointing.

 

[Bladesman]

We cannot.

Also, I thought it was a dive. And the first yellow was pure stupidity.

Not going to make a big thing of it because he's been brilliant, but I struggle to give Patrick Bamford the benefit of the doubt when it comes to falling over in the box.

I'd not mind if there was consistency to it but the amount of opposition players I have seen taken a dive in the box at the lane and not even get booked for it.

 

[Houston_Blade]

He dived, it was a yellow. He knew it and didn’t argue.

Every angle I saw it was a clear dive so I’m interested to know if there’s one showing contact.

 

[Trigger Blade]

He dived, it was a yellow. He knew it and didn’t argue.

Every angle I saw it was a clear dive so I’m interested to know if there’s one showing contact.

The view from a camera on The Kop looked like there was contact, still impossible to know for sure and the fact he didn’t complain doesn’t suggest he felt badly wronged.

 

[Geordie Blade]

His antics against Villa back in 2019 quite rightly count against him.

I like Bamford, but the brazen cheating in that game means that he shouldn’t ever get the benefit of doubt again.

 

[Dkc]

If it was a dive, he's daft doing it on a yellow. If there's contact he should win an appeal.

 

[mattbianco1]

100% dive. It's those antics that a lot of our fans used as a reason for not signing him.

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[mattbianco1]

If it was a dive, he's daft doing it on a yellow. If there's contact he should win an appeal.

Don't think you can speak a yellow card

 

[1889]

He blatantly dived, it was embarrassing.
He’s too tall and not quick enough to pull off a convincing dive, he did it in another game recently too, but didn’t get booked.
Wouldn’t mind but he had so much time to get a shot in, but dont think he trusted his right foot

 

[Houston_Blade]

The view from a camera on The Kop looked like there was contact, still impossible to know for sure and the fact he didn’t complain doesn’t suggest he felt badly wronged.

I’d say it’s pretty clear from these that he’s on his way to the deck before he even reached the keeper. He even appeared to say “that was stupid” to Brooks as he walked off.

 

[jt64]

And, of course, if he wasn't an idiot to pick up the first yellow for no reason then we wouldn't even have this topic in the first place

 

[LondonBlade89]

It’s so ingrained in many players to dive in a situation like that. Almost second nature. He wasn’t thinking about being on a yellow, or missing a big game v Millwall. Mindless and he knew it. I know not all players are like it. But a lot are. It’s just the game these days. Annoying, mind.

 

[Stretch]

For the life of me I still don't know why he didn't shoot. It would have difficult to slot it past the keeper from the angle, but at worst he probably forces a corner.

 

[JohnDenver]

Bamford doing Bamford things. Lovely footballer and a diving chuff.

 

[Maurice Maurice]

Remember when Steve Gerrard took that dive against us? He still got the shot off but Liverpool got the free kick (or penalty, I can't remember) for intent What's the difference with this?

Don't get me wrong, I hate diving and I hate that it happens but a little consistency would be nice. If you're booking Bamford there's at least 3 Ipswich players should have been booked also.

UTBFTP

 

[Varkanoid]

We were on the BLUT and it looked like the keeper tripped him!

 

[Bladesman]

 

[NordicHarry]

Was bang in front of 2nd yellow 100% a dive, daft thing to do, could've just slotted it past keeper. The 1st yellow is a bit daft but can't complain. The only disappointment from the game that.

 

[Blademan89]

We cannot.

Also, I thought it was a dive. And the first yellow was pure stupidity.

Not going to make a big thing of it because he's been brilliant, but I struggle to give Patrick Bamford the benefit of the doubt when it comes to falling over in the box.

Its the consistency that gets you though.

Their players did no different all game to the referee and lineman for the first yellow, and Furlong antics and dive trying to get Hamer sent off was a bookable offensive every day of week (he wasnt only one) yet as soon as our players react to a poor decision to referee its a yellow card, as soon as our player goes down its a yellow card for diving.

How many more of theirs fell over and didnt get booked or laid into officials.

Only annoyance regards Bamfrord is that he should have shot sooner than rounding keeper, amazes me how many professionals are not keen on using their wesker foot (in no way shape or form am I knocking Bamford as I think hes been absolutely brilliant and best striker since didsy/ sharp to play for us).

 

[Grey Blade]

Every angle I saw it was a clear dive so I’m interested to know if there’s one showing contact.

Even if there was slight contact it was an obvious dive - although from where I was it didn't look it.

Nice to come away from a game feeling horse - booing Furlong was a lot to do with it!

 

[ISZA ⚔️]

Wilder on Ipswich players:

"there's players there falling about holding their heads and everything wasn't there?”

Also Wilder, avoiding the Bamford question:

"It's disappointing but I don't think it's a booking on the far side“

This is what we have to put up with. Managers moaning one minute then plainly turning a blind eye the next about the exact same thing.

You can’t have it both ways Chris. Whether the first was or wasn’t a yellow - he was given it. He knew he was on a yellow. He still decided to try and cheat and deserved a second yellow. Don’t start chucking other bits in to suit your agenda. Take a leaf out of your own book and try to understand the narrative.

 

[nopigfansintown]

It takes a certain personality to be a referee. They often have to make the match about them and hate it when anyone questions them. Last week it was Tanganga who made some valid points to the ref regarding the Soumare sending off - as soon as he committed a foul he was off. This week Bamford had spoke to the ref not long before the second Yellow and he is off.

Looking at the Sky replay the goalie definitely made contact, we have a strong case to appeal, but what do you think the FA will do - Typically, only about 10% to 20% of appealed red cards are successfully overturned and you risk and increased ban. Clubs only appeal when they believe it is clearly wrong the FA just back the Ref's.

Agree. The ref was miffed at Tang querying the assault on McCallum too. The one that left him with stitches in foot/ankle.

Unfortunately we can't appeal two yellows.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Even if there was slight contact it was an obvious dive - although from where I was it didn't look it.

Nice to come away from a game feeling horse - booing Furlong was a lot to do with it!

If there's contact it isn't a dive. That's the current rules. It doesn't mean it's a pen either although that's the way the game has increasing gone ("there was contact"; "he had the right to go down" etc is the narrative). I totally agree that it should be a dive if a player goes down with the referee interpreting that he didn't have too. It would transform the game for the better.

We also have the issue of players buying fouls. Eliciting contact, anticipating it and winning a free kick. Last week at Charlton Bamford does it. He should get a nailed on penalty according to current rules as their player falls for it hook, line and sinker. He doesn't.This week he tries to make the keeper bring him down and he fails. On neither occasion is he trying to score the goal or gain an in play advantage.

 

[Grey Blade]

If there's contact it isn't a dive

My point was that the dive was exaggerated and didn't look natural - the way he flung his arms out. It wasn't trying to break his fall.

 

[Geordie Blade]

If there's contact it isn't a dive. That's the current rules.

Not true, sorry:

“…attempts to deceive the referee, e.g. by feigning injury or pretending to have been fouled (simulation)”

Contact does not automatically excuse simulation. Even if there is slight contact, a player can still be booked if the referee believes the reaction was clearly deceptive.

 

[Shoes_On]

If the penalty had been given and we'd scored, would we be saying, yes, there was definitely contact?

 

[JimW1889]

100% dive. It's those antics that a lot of our fans used as a reason for not signing him.

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It’s an awful dive but 90% of players dive nowadays. Really can’t stand diving in football and some teams are far worse than others, Ipswich today for example, but we’re no angels either with it. Sharp did plenty of “buying fouls” over the years.