Baldock at RCB?

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Today again proved that Anels best position seems to be in the centre of a back 3, as much as I love Egan and how much he's done for the club in recent years his form has been 'patchy' at best so far this campaign.

How to get Bogle and Baldock in the same starting line up has also always been a dilemma for us. Pushing Anel to the centre with George at RCB would not only allow Anel to play in what is seemlingly his best position but also get Bogle and George in the same team. If nothing else, it might give Egan the impetus to up his game knowing there's some genuine competition and other options for us at the back.

One obvious concern would be decreasing the ariel dominance of the back 3, but with Robbo/Trusty, Anel, Souza and McBurnie in the side we do have plenty of height in the team anyway.

I'd be interested to hear others thoughts on this, I'm absolutley not suggesting Egan needs to be dropped but it might be worth exploring options to increase the effectiveness of the players around him. Many seem to be convinced that RND would make a great LCB and George seems to have very similar attributes (workrate, engine, defensive cababilities but lacking attacking end product) but George at RCB doesn't get mentioned anywhere near as much. Makes sense to me especially as we have a good player in Bogle (when in form) on the bench.

Larry
 

Larry Duff said:
Today again proved that Anels best position seems to be in the centre of a back 3, as much as I love Egan and how much he's done for the club in recent years his form has been 'patchy' at best so far this campaign.

How to get Bogle and Baldock in the same starting line up has also always been a dilemma for us. Pushing Anel to the centre with George at RCB would not only allow Anel to play in what is seemlingly his best position but also get Bogle and George in the same team. If nothing else, it might give Egan the impetus to up his game knowing there's some genuine competition and other options for us at the back.

One obvious concern would be decreasing the ariel dominance of the back 3, but with Robbo/Trusty, Anel, Souza and McBurnie in the side we do have plenty of height in the team anyway.

I'd be interested to hear others thoughts on this, I'm absolutley not suggesting Egan needs to be dropped but it might be worth exploring options to increase the effectiveness of the players around him. Many seem to be convinced that RND would make a great LCB and George seems to have very similar attributes (workrate, engine, defensive cababilities but lacking attacking end product) but George at RCB doesn't get mentioned anywhere near as much. Makes sense to me especially as we have a good player in Bogle (when in form) on the bench.

Larry
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It doesnt get mentioned much because when he did play there with bogle out wide, it was fucking horrific.
 
Bogle is too inconsistent. And defensively suspect. He's good offensively. Baldock needs to stay where he is. Bogle on the bench is where he at present deserves to be too.
 
Larry Duff said:
Today again proved that Anels best position seems to be in the centre of a back 3, as much as I love Egan and how much he's done for the club in recent years his form has been 'patchy' at best so far this campaign.

How to get Bogle and Baldock in the same starting line up has also always been a dilemma for us. Pushing Anel to the centre with George at RCB would not only allow Anel to play in what is seemlingly his best position but also get Bogle and George in the same team. If nothing else, it might give Egan the impetus to up his game knowing there's some genuine competition and other options for us at the back.

One obvious concern would be decreasing the ariel dominance of the back 3, but with Robbo/Trusty, Anel, Souza and McBurnie in the side we do have plenty of height in the team anyway.

I'd be interested to hear others thoughts on this, I'm absolutley not suggesting Egan needs to be dropped but it might be worth exploring options to increase the effectiveness of the players around him. Many seem to be convinced that RND would make a great LCB and George seems to have very similar attributes (workrate, engine, defensive cababilities but lacking attacking end product) but George at RCB doesn't get mentioned anywhere near as much. Makes sense to me especially as we have a good player in Bogle (when in form) on the bench.

Larry
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I remember seeing Scougal outjump Baldock in league 1. He'd struggle against some of these giants
 
blade67 said:
I remember seeing Scougal outjump Baldock in league 1. He'd struggle against some of these giants
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Yep just like Egan has struggled every game so far this season. Egan isn't big enough or strong enough for the Premier league. I'm worried Hecky is going to stay loyal to him for too long.

Its an indication of our lack of depth thst we can't do much about it at the minute. Long term I'd like to see Trusty on the left, Anel central or on tje right of the back 3 and a proper big fuck off centre back to fill the position Hecky decides Anel is least suited to
 
If we're that worried about CB's and want to move Anel, is it that much of a stretch to think Trusty could play RCB or at least Centrally ? It's not like our CBS are pretty doing much attacking at the moment.

All that being said, I have faith in Egan finding form. Other than his vulnerability to the ball over the top, he's been a really solid performer.
 
no doubt about it anel looks a lot more comfortable at the centre of the 3 think we have to think about starting him there
 
I think Egan's weaknesses are overblown, not been a great start but he's been one of our most consistent performers since he joined. I wouldn't be opposed to trying Egan on the right and Anel in the middle though
 
If he comes back anytime soon then he could end up in this position.
 
Options for the back line will be :-

Bogle Baldy Anel Robbo Thomas
Or
Bogle or Baldy Anel Trusty Robbo Thomas.

It’s entirely unclear if he will trust Trusty in Egans central position.

However much folks would like it, it is entirely clear it will remain a 5 and not a 4.

UTB
 
DronnieBlade said:
Options for the back line will be :-

Bogle Baldy Anel Robbo Thomas
Or
Bogle or Baldy Anel Trusty Robbo Thomas.

It’s entirely unclear if he will trust Trusty in Egans central position.

However much folks would like it, it is entirely clear it will remain a 5 and not a 4.

UTB
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We've got Basham and Egan out injured, it would be a disgrace if Trusty doesn't start games. Our most expensive CB and he could be our best.
 
Try McBurnie if theres no one else, folk saying he's needed for opposition corners,, he can help when we get a corner too, get Archer and Brewster (if fit) in, show some pace
 

Pintor75 said:
Try McBurnie if theres no one else, folk saying he's needed for opposition corners,, he can help when we get a corner too, get Archer and Brewster (if fit) in, show some pace
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Mystic meg
 
Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou said:
We've got Basham and Egan out injured, it would be a disgrace if Trusty doesn't start games. Our most expensive CB and he could be our best.
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I agree. To an extent.

The Egan role is highly specialised in my opinion. Won’t go in to why as it’ll take forever !

Anel has shown himself to be capable in the role. Not sure Trusty has that much experience of doing that very specific CB quarter back / pivot role.

Nothing against him but it would be a real baptism if he is thrown in at the deep end (and perhaps a harsh one given our defensive frailties thus far!).

I suspect the gaffer will agree and I could see Trusty replacing Robbo in addition to the 2 back lines already mentioned as a further option.

UTB
 
Pintor75 said:
Try McBurnie if theres no one else, folk saying he's needed for opposition corners,, he can help when we get a corner too, get Archer and Brewster (if fit) in, show some pace
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Let’s have the slowest laziest player in the PL back there and just hope the oppo are in hoof n hope mode 😂.

That idea is a no from moi 😉.

UTB
 
DronnieBlade said:
Options for the back line will be :-

Bogle Baldy Anel Robbo Thomas
Or
Bogle or Baldy Anel Trusty Robbo Thomas.

It’s entirely unclear if he will trust Trusty in Egans central position.

However much folks would like it, it is entirely clear it will remain a 5 and not a 4.

UTB
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if it does remain a 5 we need to get 4 in midfield and play 1 striker
 
ancientblade said:
if it does remain a 5 we need to get 4 in midfield and play 1 striker
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Agree to some extent.

However, We, categorically, do not have a striker capable of functioning as the 1 though.

That’s the issue (or another issue depending how you look at it) !

UTB
 
DronnieBlade said:
Agree to some extent.

However, We, categorically, do not have a striker capable of functioning as the 1 though.

That’s the issue (or another issue depending how you look at it) !

UTB
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you may be right but we just have to get more numbers in midfield to get more possesion
 
ancientblade said:
you may be right but we just have to get more numbers in midfield to get more possesion
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That would be great if the midfield would be in a position to then get the ball up the field with even the remotest chance for it to stick.

I'm not disagreeing with you, just pointing out that assisting an area of the pitch (e.g. midfield) then DIRECTLY impacts our attackers. It's a bit of a catch 22.

It is no surprise to see our chance creation as low as it has been but blaming it all on the midfielders, and their lack of creativity, is not the whole story !!

UTB.
 
DronnieBlade said:
That would be great if the midfield would be in a position to then get the ball up the field with even the remotest chance for it to stick.

I'm not disagreeing with you, just pointing out that assisting an area of the pitch (e.g. midfield) then DIRECTLY impacts our attackers. It's a bit of a catch 22.

It is no surprise to see our chance creation as low as it has been but blaming it all on the midfielders, and their lack of creativity, is not the whole story !!

UTB.
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well one has to be an attacking midfielder i think archer/mcburnie up top with mcatee as the floater in midfield could work but by playing 5 defenders which we are now doing just invites teams on to us and make no mistake thats what were playing now 532 not 352
 
DronnieBlade said:
Options for the back line will be :-

Bogle Baldy Anel Robbo Thomas
Or
Bogle or Baldy Anel Trusty Robbo Thomas.

It’s entirely unclear if he will trust Trusty in Egans central position.

However much folks would like it, it is entirely clear it will remain a 5 and not a 4.

UTB
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Bogle is not, and never will be a defender.
 
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