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The are no solutions that don't involve people who are currently entitled to tickets being no longer entitled. If my car is full, I can't get anyone else in unless someone gets out.
Stick someone in the boot.
 



I said 'full'. That includes the boot. And the roof rack. Well, it would if I had one.
The example is poor. A car can’t be amended for additional capacity. The system can be changed, as other clubs do.

For the record I have a lot of points myself so this isn’t an issue for me. I appear to be in a minority who doesn’t just think about myself though.
 
To all those proposing a rolling system... Or even just awarding points for home matches... what is your workable solution to the fact that you could have ten thousand people all with the same loyalty points?

EDIT: If we're thinking of the kiddiwinks, why don't we go down the route of treating U16 tickets as "add-ons"?

So... Tickets go on sale at 60000 LPs for adult tickets - 10000 for U16s add-on.

Someone with 60k points could buy an adult ticket with his points on the first day of sale.

Or.. he could wait until it's 50000 LPs to use his 60k points to buy an adult and an U16.

Or... Wait until 40k to buy 1 adult and two U16s.

The upgrading of U16 tickets would have to be policed/banned but it deals with the children issue.

I'm sorry but I've no suggestions for the " I want to go to Wednesday but can't" problem.
 
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The example is poor. A car can’t be amended for additional capacity. The system can be changed, as other clubs do.

For the record I have a lot of points myself so this isn’t an issue for me. I appear to be in a minority who doesn’t just think about myself though.
I resent that last paragraph. I thought I'd made it clear that I lose out under the current system.
 
To all those proposing a rolling system... Or even just awarding points for home matches... what is your workable solution to the fact that you could have ten thousand people all with the same loyalty points?

EDIT: If we're thinking of the kiddiwinks, why don't we go down the route of treating U16 tickets as "add-ons"?

So... Tickets go on sale at 60000 LPs for adult tickets - 10000 for U16s add-on.

Someone with 60k points could buy an adult ticket with his points on the first day of sale.

Or.. he could wait until it's 50000 LPs to use his 60k points to buy an adult and an U16.

Or... Wait until 40k to buy 1 adult and two U16s.

The upgrading of U16 tickets would have to be policed/banned but it deals with the children issue.

I'm sorry but I've no suggestions for the " I want to go to Wednesday but can't" problem.
A good proposition Linz for the younger fans. This would be one of the fairest ways of approaching a change. But you’re right, it’d need to work alongside a clampdown of people buying the wrong tickets.

In terms of any resetting and having large numbers on the same points for the first couple of years, I don’t think it would be a big issue, particularly. When the system was introduced for the Premier League season and therefore a similar situation being present, I can’t recall any issues, although I may be wrong.
 
In terms of any resetting and having large numbers on the same points for the first couple of years, I don’t think it would be a big issue, particularly. When the system was introduced for the Premier League season and therefore a similar situation being present, I can’t recall any issues, although I may be wrong.

But points were also awarded for having a 2005/06 season ticket so there was already that step-up for those going anyway vs those who were just wanting tickets because we were in the Premiership.

And for the first away tickets (Spurs and Fulham), you required a ticket stub from Luton the season before for priority and there was a postal application scenario (just looking at threads from the time).

The attendance at Luton was ~1700 Blades and the remaining 1300 allocation was allocated to ST holders, then members, then Superdraw etc.

However, Spurs was a Tuesday game so 1400 tickets ended up going on general sale: https://s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/spurs-tickets.4080/

Then pay on the day: https://s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/spurs-tickets-still-available.4123/

Which suggests that when push came to shove, our first away match in the Premiership wasn't that much of a draw for people.

I can't see whether we sold out Fulham or not.

It wasn't a case of Premiership = everyone on zero points. There was "priority" built-in right from the off.

EDIT: Then for Arsenal, those who had been to Spurs and/or Fulham got priority: https://s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/arsenal-tickets.4230/
 
It is unlikely that I will be able to attend many away games this season as I only have just over 5,000 loyalty points.

It is frustrating but there we are. I accept that supporters who have over the years been to many more games than me and have season tickets should get first dibs.

It would be nice if a modest percentage of tickets say 10% of our allocation could be set aside for ballot. That would give all supporters a lottery chance.

I wonder if an away season ticket scheme is worthy of consideration. Not sure.

Here is a link to the Canaries scheme;

http://files.canaries.co.uk/canaries/Away Season Ticket 2017-18.pdf

HH
 
Does anyone else think it makes a difference that SUFC 'Head of Ticketing' is a big Wednesday fan? m.facebook.com/carrie.sampson.524 Not sure if this is a possitive, negative or makes no difference!

What does that make a difference to, exactly?
 
Does anyone else think it makes a difference that SUFC 'Head of Ticketing' is a big Wednesday fan? m.facebook.com/carrie.sampson.524 Not sure if this is a possitive, negative or makes no difference!

Knowing Carrie, I don't think it makes a difference no, certainly not a negative one!.
 
Does anyone else think it makes a difference that SUFC 'Head of Ticketing' is a big Wednesday fan? m.facebook.com/carrie.sampson.524 Not sure if this is a possitive, negative or makes no difference!

Knowing Carrie, I don't think it makes a difference no, certainly not a negative

The ticket office is better now than it's ever been .
 
But points were also awarded for having a 2005/06 season ticket so there was already that step-up for those going anyway vs those who were just wanting tickets because we were in the Premiership.

And for the first away tickets (Spurs and Fulham), you required a ticket stub from Luton the season before for priority and there was a postal application scenario (just looking at threads from the time).

The attendance at Luton was ~1700 Blades and the remaining 1300 allocation was allocated to ST holders, then members, then Superdraw etc.

However, Spurs was a Tuesday game so 1400 tickets ended up going on general sale: https://s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/spurs-tickets.4080/

Then pay on the day: https://s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/spurs-tickets-still-available.4123/

Which suggests that when push came to shove, our first away match in the Premiership wasn't that much of a draw for people.

I can't see whether we sold out Fulham or not.

It wasn't a case of Premiership = everyone on zero points. There was "priority" built-in right from the off.

EDIT: Then for Arsenal, those who had been to Spurs and/or Fulham got priority: https://s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/arsenal-tickets.4230/
So when it was introduced there wasn't any issues, as neither the Spurs nor Fulham game sold out. I remember plenty of empty seats at both these games, so there was no clamour of tickets, even when they went on general sale. However, I don't think that would be the case now, in fairness.

As I said on a previous post, it's only really the club who have all the MI, who can best calculate what if any solution there is. I've no idea how many people fall in to each band of loyalty points.
 
Or minimal points for home league games. I'm certainly not advocating stopping those who go constantly or on a regular basis but just think it's time the younger generation and those who have watched the last few years of crap are given at least a fair crack of the whip
The people that go to home games are the most valuable to United as away games, cup ties excepted, don't generate any income for the club so surely it's right to look after biggest income generators.
 



Can't complain too much at the current system, I don't have as many points as others do because since the introduction of the system I spent 4 years living away from Sheffield whilst at university so couldn't afford a season ticket or get to games. So I've lost out on 10,000 points, but not complaining because that's how the system works.

My only issue is how many points get awarded for away games. Fair enough high demand ones such as wednesday/leeds/forest etc are only given 50, but only offering 150 points to travel to QPR on a tuesday night seems quite harsh when it involves having to book time off work etc.

If they offered more points (say 250) for these long distance midweek away games which they don't expect to sell out then it gives people a chance to build more points up, rewards the extra effort made to get to these matches, and would probably help the club sell a few more tickets at the same time. This way we aren't changing the current system, just making it a little easier to accumulate points through loyalty.
 
But points were also awarded for having a 2005/06 season ticket so there was already that step-up for those going anyway vs those who were just wanting tickets because we were in the Premiership.

And for the first away tickets (Spurs and Fulham), you required a ticket stub from Luton the season before for priority and there was a postal application scenario (just looking at threads from the time).

The attendance at Luton was ~1700 Blades and the remaining 1300 allocation was allocated to ST holders, then members, then Superdraw etc.

However, Spurs was a Tuesday game so 1400 tickets ended up going on general sale: https://s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/spurs-tickets.4080/

Then pay on the day: https://s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/spurs-tickets-still-available.4123/

Which suggests that when push came to shove, our first away match in the Premiership wasn't that much of a draw for people.

I can't see whether we sold out Fulham or not.

It wasn't a case of Premiership = everyone on zero points. There was "priority" built-in right from the off.

EDIT: Then for Arsenal, those who had been to Spurs and/or Fulham got priority: https://s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/arsenal-tickets.4230/

I think you might just be on to something there Linz.

I queued all night for a Luton ticket and owned a season ticket for the 05/06 and had attended the vast majority of away games that season before, and the season before that, and pretty much every season for the preceding ten. The one game I didn’t get to attend was the away fixture at Hillsborough as I couldn’t join the back of the queue at the Lane quick enough after work, and was mightily pissed off that my loyalty had been rewarded by not getting a ticket for the biggest game of the season.

Since the loyalty point system has been in, I’ve had a season ticket every season, done several away game every season, as well as the less desirable cup games and JPT games and I’m in the 42k + bracket now.

So does anyone on here why I should lose out on tickets to do something that I love, or be penalised by not be able to attend the high demand away fixtures to give someone else a chance?
 
Being a student living away for several years I've not had the opportunity to get a season ticket up until recently. I now find myself struggling to get away tickets due to my low loyalty points.

How am I supposed to build up my loyalty points if they sell out before I even get the chance to grab 1?
 
Being a student living away for several years I've not had the opportunity to get a season ticket up until recently. I now find myself struggling to get away tickets due to my low loyalty points.

How am I supposed to build up my loyalty points if they sell out before I even get the chance to grab 1?

Well you would have got a ticket for half of the away games this season, at the very least.
 
Cannot understand people's issues with the loyalty points system. There is no fairer way to do it, if you can't get away tickets at the moment well then you just have to be patient, don't you! The people ahead of you in the queue are there because they've attended more matches and spent more cash following United - can't say fairer than that.
 
Being a student living away for several years I've not had the opportunity to get a season ticket up until recently. I now find myself struggling to get away tickets due to my low loyalty points.

How am I supposed to build up my loyalty points if they sell out before I even get the chance to grab 1?
So who should get priority ? Someone in your position or someone who has regularly been away with the Blades and got a season ticket ?
 
So who should get priority ? Someone in your position or someone who has regularly been away with the Blades and got a season ticket ?
I'm not saying I should get priority over someone with more loyalty points as they've built them up and fully deserve them.

I'm just pointing out that for the matches I can attend I often struggle to get tickets for due to my low loyalty points. Without getting a chance to get a ticket, I have no opportunity to gain more loyalty points.
 
To all those proposing a rolling system... Or even just awarding points for home matches... what is your workable solution to the fact that you could have ten thousand people all with the same loyalty points?

EDIT: If we're thinking of the kiddiwinks, why don't we go down the route of treating U16 tickets as "add-ons"?

So... Tickets go on sale at 60000 LPs for adult tickets - 10000 for U16s add-on.

Someone with 60k points could buy an adult ticket with his points on the first day of sale.

Or.. he could wait until it's 50000 LPs to use his 60k points to buy an adult and an U16.

Or... Wait until 40k to buy 1 adult and two U16s.

The upgrading of U16 tickets would have to be policed/banned but it deals with the children issue.

I'm sorry but I've no suggestions for the " I want to go to Wednesday but can't" problem.
All very good and dare I say suits certain people but what about those who let's say are now 17/18 and let's say have been regulars since the age of 9 or 10 yet trail with points and stand little chance of catching up? Or those who don't already have parents that go to games? Hardly fair on them is it? Just a thought, though like we all agree, there isn't a solution that suits everyone but it's obvious this would have come up sooner or later
 
All very good and dare I say suits certain people but what about those who let's say are now 17/18 and let's say have been regulars since the age of 9 or 10 yet trail with points and stand little chance of catching up? Or those who don't already have parents that go to games? Hardly fair on them is it? Just a thought, though like we all agree, there isn't a solution that suits everyone but it's obvious this would have come up sooner or later
Why is it 'not fair'? Unfortunate, yes absolutely, unfair, no.
 
Unfair would be for someone who has earned enough loyalty points to miss out on a ticket because 10% have been retained for general sale/ballot.

And no, I don't have enough points for most big games and it frustrates the hell out of me to miss out, but I accept it for what it is.
 
There have been plenty of away games this season that have got to General Sale, it's not impossible to get tickets like some are making out. I think only Forest and Wednesday were snapped up quickly.
 
So you think it's fair that a 16 year old gets a leg up because his parents are supporters over someone who's parents aren't?
Sorry I didn't realise you were commenting on Linz's point about kids specifically. No, of course it's not fair and I don't agree with that at all.
 



Only a problem for a handful of games, 15 away matches will probably go to general sale, so plenty of opportunity for most fans to attend loads of away games.
Leeds 2500
Qpr 1600
Norwich 2000
Ipswich 2500
Fulham 7000
Bristol 3000
Reading 4000
Millwall 2500
Hull 4000
Wolves 3000
Barnsley 4800
Derby 2500
Villa 3000
Birmingham 4000
Preston 5000
Small numbers at burton and Brentford
 

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