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Aw cheers. And if I go to games, will it entitle me to voice my opinion on here and gain acceptance from the likes of you? Please answer. It is important to me you see.

pommpey
I think it would certainly give you a bit more validity. At the moment you are just like the annoying kid who chirps away in your ear always thinking hes right, will never be told otherwise and usually just spouts bollocks. At least if you contributed to the club you claim to support then people may be more willing to listen to your arguments.

Which reminds me, have you logged on and checked how many points yet? It is important to me.
 



I think it would certainly give you a bit more validity. At the moment you are just like the annoying kid who chirps away in your ear always thinking hes right, will never be told otherwise and usually just spouts bollocks. At least if you contributed to the club you claim to support then people may be more willing to listen to your arguments.

But then that's just you, and your narrow requirement for 'validity'. How do you scale your 'validity' for people who attend more games than you? Does that mean you spout bollocks, compared to them?

Do you see where your eternally piss-weak argument always ends up, Mobile?

Which reminds me, have you logged on and checked how many points yet? It is important to me.

I don't have to because I have none. I don't care, either. You, however are now all bone-hard about the fact that you have lots.

Cor. Proper Blade.

Anyway. Our away form on non-Desso and last season on the Desso. As you have 30k points, kindly explain. Even though you have more 'validity', you can't can you?

pommpey
 
I can say the same about you,i asked you a question,you fail to answer

This thread is about awards and the Desso. You asked why I would want to borrow loyalty points from the massively gifted with loyalty points Mobile Blade. Do you want a drawing, lad?

Put your bottom lip away Fred and sod off, eh?

pommpey
 
This thread is about awards and the Desso. You asked why I would want to borrow loyalty points from the massively gifted with loyalty points Mobile Blade. Do you want a drawing, lad?

Put your bottom lip away Fred and sod off, eh?

pommpey

Unwilling to answer,noted
 
Loyalty points and why you require them,any answer?

Fuck me. Is irony summat you press your shirty with? Or are you terminally sub-normal?

There. Your answer. Now answer my questions. I know you can't. My work here is done.

Off you trot.

pommpey
 
Fuck me. Is irony summat you press your shirty with? Or are you terminally sub-normal?

There. Your answer. Now answer my questions. I know you can't. My work here is done.

Off you trot.

pommpey

I see no answer to why you require to borrow somebodys loyalty points in your post
 
Again, no one can explain why it didn't do this ... last season.

No one can explain how we have managed to win away this season on frankly disgraceful pitches.

I'd accept all this jubilation if we'd fucked up badly this season away from the Desso. But we have played once away from home this season on a Desso and failed to get a result. All signposts point to Bollocksville on Sea.

Yep. Stuck record. But so are the Desso-clappers.

pommpey

I distinctly remember the playing surface at Oldham having an impact on our ability to get a result.
 
I see no answer to why you require to borrow somebodys loyalty points in your post

Then you are a bit special.

I want them so I can buy booze at Tesco and trade them for Amazon vouchers for movies.

(wait everyone. He's working that one out)

pommpey
 
Then you are a bit special.

I want them so I can buy booze at Tesco and trade them for Amazon vouchers for movies.

(wait everyone. He's working that one out)

pommpey

Still unable/unwilling to answer the question
 
Still unable/unwilling to answer the question

I've told you Fred. I need them for booze and fags and Amazon movies. You have shedloads so can I borrow some of yours as well?

(wait for it: "But you still haven't answered why you need the loyalty points")

pommpey
 



We drew. We did so on the two previous occasions at BP and won before that.

pommpey

Oldham play a long ball game and attract players that suit that style of play, if they wanted to play a passing game they would have to employ a brilliant groundsman or buy a desso.

We play a passing game and our pitch compliments the style of play, if need be we could play a long ball game and the pitch would not have an adverse impact.

The fact that all the top clubs have one proves that football teams see it as a good investment if you can afford it, we managed to buy one and go up, so the investment regardless of whether you think it was a good one or not was something that we could afford to do and still had enough money to get us promoted.

Its an investment for the future that allows us to play better football, if you've ever played on a crap pitch and then played on a 3G pitch you'll understand how easier it is to play passing, free flowing football on a completely flat surface without any bobbles.
 
How have we managed with these surfaces off the Desso? It's the question you pitch-clappers fail ... every single time ... to answer. Explain our away form and the (apparent destructive effect opposition pitches has had on our injury list. See? Empty. No explanation. You can't, because there is none.



What? Like Southend? They beat us at the Lane, did they not? They must have found it a nightmare. United certainly did.



I don't know. Do you? Will that be put into 'the club' or 'the football club'? Will it result in two or three first team signings this season coming to strengthen our hopes to remain in the Championship and punch our weight? I mean, we were talking circuses at one stage weren't we? Are you suggesting SUFC will see anything from the gate revenue? I'm asking you, because obviously you have the figures right there.



I don't know, but you obviously do. Was it completely relaid every season? You have proof of that?



Imagine if we would have hung onto Murphy (our previous season's top scorer) and not signed Woolford (Murphy's luminary replacement with one goal out of 20-odd appearances)



This is the 'real world' in League One for six seasons, readers. You sound like McCabe actually planned a shit season under Adkins and it was all in his gift to get Wilder in at the second helping and the rest was serendipity. Like I say, you are conveniently missing out a whole shitload of detail from the last 120 months.



You see, I struggle to remember if and when I have said 'McCabe Out' with any greta conviction, so forgive me, but you are indeed wrong. As much as you like to defend the indefensible, he has been pretty fucking woeful and presided over a particularly disastrous period for this club, stemming right back to when we suddenly lost our striker in the PL and had no real plan B in place. All after that was downhill and up to around October, its been much of the same. But you don't remember that. That's okay, but please don't expect everyone to have the same convenient lack of perspective because you're feeling all happy we've finally made it. It is in spite of McCabe and the Desso, not because of it. I support this team and am disappointed we have underachieved for some ten years but for you, the definition of support is to clap a pitch, even if we lose on it (like we did last year on too many occasions. If I am wrong and you are right about that, good luck to you. For your information ... so you understand ... I don't want McCabe out.

pommpey


This is actually becoming funny, especially as the opening post was a point about the groundsmen being rewarded for their good work.

Anyway....here goes again. I will dumb it down a bit.
Let's say, that Oldhams was the worst surface. I recall a couple of other times the surface was described as poor but Oldhams was terrible. So maybe 4 poor surfaces over the season. That's less than 10% of games where risk of injury increases. Now imagine if our home pitch was like Oldhams from November onwards (which it was if you had noticed)....be roughly 15 games. So total is now around 19 games on shit surfaces....about 40% without working it out.
So over a season, that could make a difference.
We have had a few injuries....how many were at home? How many away from home? I also recall wilder altering his line up for he Oldham game in response to the poor surface.

Now can we have any change to your empty explanation that diverting that money to players would have been better. I mean Murphy might have gone over in his ankle and been done for the season....pointless paying for him then.

Exactly, our nice pitch was a joy for them that day. But clearly a good pitch makes no difference according to you.

And yes, I do know that the club will benefit financially from the Brook fight. And guess what....it might not be the last time we get a similar gig if the club does the good job I expect it will.
And yes...the pitch was relaid every year. Top taken off, relaid with new turf. Roughly £100k...well that's what it costs Scunny so I'm assuming the costs will be similar. What proof would you like? A picture...receipt...a letter from my mate the groundsman?.or can you for once perhaps accept someone might just actually know.

I remember very well the errors of McCabe....like I do Brearley, Woolhouse, McDonald.....and you know what? We've had a lot fucking worse! I certainly didn't know Km was directly responsible for the teams performances in the premier league and failure to get a striker in after Hulse injury. Perhaps he should have saved the managers salary.
What I do know is that Colin was given money to strengthen...and he fucked it up. I also know that KM left the club to be run by a charlatan who conned him into thinking he knew what he was doing. I was a pissed as anyone for the last 10 years, and the incompetence of managers tasked to do a job.
But as folk like you hammered the club for the academy, then the hotel it's now the pitch. What are your views on costs associated with the changes to corporate facilities? Should that be ploughed back into the team.

And finally....it's ironic you say success is in spite of McCabe and the surface not because of him.....whereas the failures were ALL down to McCabe. And I might add perhaps too the surface. It's speculation...like pretty much all of your argument.
 
I've told you Fred. I need them for booze and fags and Amazon movies. You have shedloads so can I borrow some of yours as well?

(wait for it: "But you still haven't answered why you need the loyalty points")

pommpey

Still no answer
 
Would not installing the Desso and giving the money to Adkins instead have got us promoted? Can't say for certain but I very much doubt it.

Has the Desso had any impact on Wilder's budget this season? No.

So why is it relevant?
 
But then that's just you, and your narrow requirement for 'validity'. How do you scale your 'validity' for people who attend more games than you? Does that mean you spout bollocks, compared to them?

Do you see where your eternally piss-weak argument always ends up, Mobile?



I don't have to because I have none. I don't care, either. You, however are now all bone-hard about the fact that you have lots.

Cor. Proper Blade.

Anyway. Our away form on non-Desso and last season on the Desso. As you have 30k points, kindly explain. Even though you have more 'validity', you can't can you?

pommpey
Oh Pomps (can I call you Pomps?) you do make me smile. You see we all follow Sheffield United Football CLUB - and as with all clubs you tend to have to put in to get something out.

So, if you join the Royal Albert Yacht Club you can have a say in what goes off. Usually you have to pay to have your say. Often these clubs are limited companies so your say could in theory be ignored, unless you bought shares, but invariably clubs like to listen to their members and take on board their opinions. But the important bit is you have to put in, like join, pay a membership fee or similar. And when you do this, your say is then valid. But if you don't pay in - then don't expect anyone to listen when you have your say. And this is your problem - you don't put in but you still expect everyone to listen to you twittering on about a £1 million pitch (actually it was four pitches but don't want to get mixed up with pedantics) that is being paid off as a capital investment over 10 years. And given that it costs us close to £70K if a game was postponed (and I have on good authority at least one game this season would have been postponed on the old pitch but instead it was played on the bowling green that is the desso) then never mind the footballing reasons just the financial arguments stacks up.

Some clubs say the more you pay the bigger your say. Some clubs just say no matter how much you pay every member has an equal say. They all have one thing in common though, you have to put in.

You seem to have said it so often that the Murphy sale paid for the pitch that you are truly convinced and no matter what anyone does or shows you otherwise you will never believe them because as far as you are concerned it's a fact. End of.

So come along, join the club - you can be a member for £25 or why not buy an annual subscription to Blades Player - or whatever it will be called from next month - for the princely sum of about £40 per year and you listen to every game and watch back the full 90 minutes of the game the following day. You can see how they are playing every game and then you can input your opinion and guess what, people will listen to you and think you have a valid point.

Otherwise, you can just twitter along and like the kid I mentioned in the previous post, everyone will just laugh at you. And they do.
 
Still no answer

Feller you can keep trolling if you want. You can't answer my questions, so, like a thick teenager, you keep parroting the same old shite.

Ho hum.

Like I say, my work here is done.

Cheerio

pommpey
 
Feller you can keep trolling if you want. You can't answer my questions, so, like a thick teenager, you keep parroting the same old shite.

Ho hum.

Like I say, my work here is done.

Cheerio

pommpey

Waffle,and still no answer
 
The training pitches aren't desso, the million was for the lane only.

I've not checked the accounts, but from memory, we were looking at around £1.8mil for the Lane and the upgrades to the surfaces at the academy.
 
Oh Pomps (can I call you Pomps?) you do make me smile. You see we all follow Sheffield United Football CLUB - and as with all clubs you tend to have to put in to get something out.

Oh. An analogy. This should be good.

So, if you join the Royal Albert Yacht Club ...

He goes on some meandering irrelevance about clubs and subscriptions ...

Thing is, Mobs (can I call you Mobs?) ... this forum ... S24SU ... is in no manner structurally connected to Sheffield United Football Club. Clubs and Associations usually have 'memberships', overseen by a 'Committee'. Businesses are broadly similar, but more profit and success related rather than set up for the pleasure or collective of the subscribers. Last I looked, Foxy and Lindz don't ask for subscriptions for this site and even if they did, they'd be hard pushed to channel that subscription into the football club as it were. Follow? I know this because I am a member of one or two clubs and Vice Chair of an Association. Every year we have an AGM and our 'membership' has their say. This isn't anything like that, so the analogy is frankly bollocks, with spiky hairs and a few veins on them.

Some clubs say the more you pay the bigger your say. Some clubs just say no matter how much you pay every member has an equal say. They all have one thing in common though, you have to put in.

But you see, posting on S24SU requires no payment to voice opinion. I could say Alan Woodward was a shit player and Tony Currie was a long haired lazy bastard who did nothing for the club. You'd probably disagree, but you'd have to put up with my opinion or sod off somewhere else where you feel comfortable and not so cross about people holding different opinions than yours, which seems to be the case here. You don't own this site, and I don't have to pay for the right to voice my opinion. Suck it up, buttercup.

You seem to have said it so often that the Murphy sale paid for the pitch that you are truly convinced and no matter what anyone does or shows you otherwise you will never believe them because as far as you are concerned it's a fact. End of.

And you seem quite set on the fact that I should in some way financially contribute to SUFC in the same manner than you do to validate my opinion. It isn't true. End of. Live with it. I know you get all bottom lip about it, but its summat you'll have to man up about.

So come along, join the club - you can be a member for £25 or why not buy an annual subscription to Blades Player - or whatever it will be called from next month - for the princely sum of about £40 per year and you listen to every game and watch back the full 90 minutes of the game the following day. You can see how they are playing every game and then you can input your opinion and guess what, people will listen to you and think you have a valid point.

Thing is, (and I have said this before, but you're not listening because 'la-la-la pommpey doesn't go to games etc', I am not criticising what is happening on the pitch. The results speak for themselves. I am (on this thread - pay attention now) simply challenging some people's seemingly misguided gobbing off about the value of the purchase of the playing surface when last year it made fuck all difference (because the team and manager were shit and we were beaten many times on it), and this year it has made fuck all difference (because we have won convincingly off the super, smashing pitch as we have on it. It really is that simple. Now either you understand that, or you can ball your fists, say 'grr' and get all cross and colicky and rooer a little bit because pommpey doesn't (or correctly 'can't') go to matches as much as you. Listening to your contributions, and given your example, it seems your splendid attendance record does you no good because you too have fuck all to say about 'the game', more about people like me who are ignorable aspects and outspoken opinionators with whom you disagree with. If you can't hoist that in (and it's pretty simple, really) then I can't help you any more. Either way, I don't care what you think any more.

Otherwise, you can just twitter along and like the kid I mentioned in the previous post, everyone will just laugh at you. And they do.

Aw. That hurts so bad. Boo hoo.

pommpey
 
I've not checked the accounts, but from memory, we were looking at around £1.8mil for the Lane and the upgrades to the surfaces at the academy.
The academy upgrades were the synthetic 3G pitches. The grass pitches are still, well, grass I suppose.
 



And there goes the case proved in err lots of words that say nothing

Transl: "I have trouble understanding things. I get angry about it. I like to push my supposed weight about on internet messageboards. This makes me feel better. Grrr."

Night Mobs.

pommpey
 

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