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This season I suggest the 2nd placed automatic promotion spot will need a lowish points haul of around 87 points as there is a lack of outstanding teams.

We have 28 games remaining and need 61 points to get 87 points, that's 2.2 points per game on average.

The manager knows his players now and has the key signing of Dean Hammond bedding into the team. He talks about him as though he will stay with us until the end of the season at least. The manager considers his presence vital so we have to treat that level of respect at face value and trust him.

Round about this stage of the season the manager should searching for a settled side and style of play. If we are going to achieve automatic promotion and over 2.2 points per game then we desperately need to improve.

Who knows the manager might have a couple of rabbits to pull out of the hat in January but if we don't settle down and urgently improve and then gain some consistency this year then we could be out of touch by January 1st.

The remaining fixtures this year are listed below and I guess the results to show what's needed to gather points at that rate:

Shrewsbury(H) 3 points
Barnsley (A) 3
Coventry (H) 3
Scunthorpe (A) 1
Wigan (A) 1
Bradford (H) 3

Total 14 points = 2.3 points per game average.

If we do achieve 14 points or more then we have the hope of a Happy New Year but anything less could lead to us being also-rans and at best in the Play-Off lottery.

I think we can do it. Do you?
 



Given that over our last 10 games we've only got 13 points, getting 14 points from 6 games suddenly looks a lot more difficult.

Doncaster (H): W
Burton (A): D
Port Vale (A): L
Rochdale (H): W
Oldham (A): D
Fleetwood (H): W
Millwall (H): L
Crewe (A): L
Southend (H): D
Walsall (A): D

Until we figure out that the common factor in most teams at this level is a decent level of athleticism, particularly in midfield, we've not got a chance.

FWIW:
Shrewsbury (H): win
Barnsley (A): draw [nb we should win...but we should have won at Crewe, on paper]
Coventry (H): loss
Scunthorpe (A): draw [see Barnsley]
Wigan (A): loss
Bradford (H): draw
 
I admire your confidence but I think it is more likely to go this way

Shrewsbury H, win. 3 points
Barnsley. A, draw 1 point
Coventry . H. Loss 0 points
Scunny. A draw 1 point
Wigan. A. Loss. 0 points
Bradford. H. Draw 1 point.

And that's being generous with the two local derby results.
 
This season I suggest the 2nd placed automatic promotion spot will need a lowish points haul of around 87 points as there is a lack of outstanding teams.

We have 28 games remaining and need 61 points to get 87 points, that's 2.2 points per game on average.

The manager knows his players now and has the key signing of Dean Hammond bedding into the team. He talks about him as though he will stay with us until the end of the season at least. The manager considers his presence vital so we have to treat that level of respect at face value and trust him.

Round about this stage of the season the manager should searching for a settled side and style of play. If we are going to achieve automatic promotion and over 2.2 points per game then we desperately need to improve.

Who knows the manager might have a couple of rabbits to pull out of the hat in January but if we don't settle down and urgently improve and then gain some consistency this year then we could be out of touch by January 1st.

The remaining fixtures this year are listed below and I guess the results to show what's needed to gather points at that rate:

Shrewsbury(H) 3 points
Barnsley (A) 3
Coventry (H) 3
Scunthorpe (A) 1
Wigan (A) 1
Bradford (H) 3

Total 14 points = 2.3 points per game average.

If we do achieve 14 points or more then we have the hope of a Happy New Year but anything less could lead to us being also-rans and at best in the Play-Off lottery.

I think we can do it. Do you?



Wow! Really admire your optimism pal. I have seen nothing to suggest that these players have the balls for a promotion push.
We would need 4 or 5 new signings who would need to inject some pace, mobility and EFFORT into the team and then maybe we could dream of a play off spot at best.
On the evidence of his signings so far, I am not 100% confident in NA getting this right, hope I'm wrong.
 
I didn't realise that more than the two usual over optimistic suspects on here actually think auto promotion is still an option WOW. Sorry play offs is the best we can hope for and even that is looking unlikely, it would take a record breaking run until the end of the season to get top two but I would hope we can sneek into the play offs.
 
The manager knows his players now and has the key signing of Dean Hammond bedding into the team. He talks about him as though he will stay with us until the end of the season at least. The manager considers his presence vital so we have to treat that level of respect at face value and trust him.

this is exactly why I have no faith in Adkins whatsoever, if hes here any longer than his loan we're fucked, send him back now
 
I'd be amazed if we get 10 points from the next 6 games let alone 14. Think we'll get beat by Wigan and Coventry (top 2 this season I reckon).
 
Normally I'd want to avoid the dreaded play-offs as it only leads to false hope and misery.

But we've had such a poor start that I'd take the playoffs now if offered.
 
i think automatic promotion is over this season which is depressing considering the media had us to run away with this league (bar majority of us who hadnt forgotten our defence was & still is bobbins) & i was saying on another thread last week, that i guessed come fa cup 3rd rd. we might be 7th/8th still, with about 39 pts from 25 games. just to get 4th come may & scrape a home advantage in playoffs, we would have to do the equivalent of getting over 100ish in a 46 game season. Which I doubt this inconsistent team is capable off
 
This season I suggest the 2nd placed automatic promotion spot will need a lowish points haul of around 87 points as there is a lack of outstanding teams.

We have 28 games remaining and need 61 points to get 87 points, that's 2.2 points per game on average.

The manager knows his players now and has the key signing of Dean Hammond bedding into the team. He talks about him as though he will stay with us until the end of the season at least. The manager considers his presence vital so we have to treat that level of respect at face value and trust him.

Round about this stage of the season the manager should searching for a settled side and style of play. If we are going to achieve automatic promotion and over 2.2 points per game then we desperately need to improve.

Who knows the manager might have a couple of rabbits to pull out of the hat in January but if we don't settle down and urgently improve and then gain some consistency this year then we could be out of touch by January 1st.

The remaining fixtures this year are listed below and I guess the results to show what's needed to gather points at that rate:

Shrewsbury(H) 3 points
Barnsley (A) 3
Coventry (H) 3
Scunthorpe (A) 1
Wigan (A) 1
Bradford (H) 3

Total 14 points = 2.3 points per game average.

If we do achieve 14 points or more then we have the hope of a Happy New Year but anything less could lead to us being also-rans and at best in the Play-Off lottery.

I think we can do it. Do you?

If Nigel Adkins can pull a couple of rabbits out o a hat I would respectfully advise him to take up a career as a magician because to date his performance as the football manager of Sheffield United FC has been less than impressive !
I have already tired of his pre match and post match interviews and he obviously struggles in motivating the players and if he thinks that by slagging off supporters with his constant bigging up of Dean Hammond and intimating the fans are not bright enough or have the savvy to appreciate Hammonds work then he is barking up the wrong tree ! - Or is he just barking !!!!
 
Automatic promotion is as realistic as relegation in my eyes. I don't think either have a chance of happening

I'd take the play-offs now as despite our terrible record I think it's the only chance we have.
 



This season I suggest the 2nd placed automatic promotion spot will need a lowish points haul of around 87 points as there is a lack of outstanding teams.

We have 28 games remaining and need 61 points to get 87 points, that's 2.2 points per game on average.

The manager knows his players now and has the key signing of Dean Hammond bedding into the team. He talks about him as though he will stay with us until the end of the season at least. The manager considers his presence vital so we have to treat that level of respect at face value and trust him.

Round about this stage of the season the manager should searching for a settled side and style of play. If we are going to achieve automatic promotion and over 2.2 points per game then we desperately need to improve.

Who knows the manager might have a couple of rabbits to pull out of the hat in January but if we don't settle down and urgently improve and then gain some consistency this year then we could be out of touch by January 1st.

The remaining fixtures this year are listed below and I guess the results to show what's needed to gather points at that rate:

Shrewsbury(H) 3 points
Barnsley (A) 3
Coventry (H) 3
Scunthorpe (A) 1
Wigan (A) 1
Bradford (H) 3

Total 14 points = 2.3 points per game average.

If we do achieve 14 points or more then we have the hope of a Happy New Year but anything less could lead to us being also-rans and at best in the Play-Off lottery.

I think we can do it. Do you?

There's zero chance of this team achieving automatic promotion this season.

I'm not even sure we'll make the play offs.
 
This season I suggest the 2nd placed automatic promotion spot will need a lowish points haul of around 87 points as there is a lack of outstanding teams.

We have 28 games remaining and need 61 points to get 87 points, that's 2.2 points per game on average.

The manager knows his players now and has the key signing of Dean Hammond bedding into the team. He talks about him as though he will stay with us until the end of the season at least. The manager considers his presence vital so we have to treat that level of respect at face value and trust him.

Round about this stage of the season the manager should searching for a settled side and style of play. If we are going to achieve automatic promotion and over 2.2 points per game then we desperately need to improve.

Who knows the manager might have a couple of rabbits to pull out of the hat in January but if we don't settle down and urgently improve and then gain some consistency this year then we could be out of touch by January 1st.

The remaining fixtures this year are listed below and I guess the results to show what's needed to gather points at that rate:

Shrewsbury(H) 3 points
Barnsley (A) 3
Coventry (H) 3
Scunthorpe (A) 1
Wigan (A) 1
Bradford (H) 3

Total 14 points = 2.3 points per game average.

If we do achieve 14 points or more then we have the hope of a Happy New Year but anything less could lead to us being also-rans and at best in the Play-Off lottery.

I think we can do it. Do you?
This here is the kind of thing that should be earning infractions. Inciting any form of optimism, let alone a brand this wild, can only lead others to serious psychological harm and should be stopped.
 
This season I suggest the 2nd placed automatic promotion spot will need a lowish points haul of around 87 points as there is a lack of outstanding teams.

We have 28 games remaining and need 61 points to get 87 points, that's 2.2 points per game on average.

The manager knows his players now and has the key signing of Dean Hammond bedding into the team. He talks about him as though he will stay with us until the end of the season at least. The manager considers his presence vital so we have to treat that level of respect at face value and trust him.

Round about this stage of the season the manager should searching for a settled side and style of play. If we are going to achieve automatic promotion and over 2.2 points per game then we desperately need to improve.

Who knows the manager might have a couple of rabbits to pull out of the hat in January but if we don't settle down and urgently improve and then gain some consistency this year then we could be out of touch by January 1st.

The remaining fixtures this year are listed below and I guess the results to show what's needed to gather points at that rate:

Shrewsbury(H) 3 points
Barnsley (A) 3
Coventry (H) 3
Scunthorpe (A) 1
Wigan (A) 1
Bradford (H) 3

Total 14 points = 2.3 points per game average.

If we do achieve 14 points or more then we have the hope of a Happy New Year but anything less could lead to us being also-rans and at best in the Play-Off lottery.

I think we can do it. Do you?

I really admire your optimism and enthusiasm Woodward and enjoy your posts as they are the antidote the endless negativity and pessimism that some posters continually trot out.

Having said that I do think 2.3 points a game is a massively tall order. I really do think we will have an upturn in results but the playoffs are as far as I can stretch at the moment. However things change quickly.
 
In 2011/12 a certain team managed 11 wins and 3 draws from their last 14 games.

In theory we can still win the league. It is up to the players and that is the worrying bit.

HH
 
This season I suggest the 2nd placed automatic promotion spot will need a lowish points haul of around 87 points as there is a lack of outstanding teams.

We have 28 games remaining and need 61 points to get 87 points, that's 2.2 points per game on average.

The manager knows his players now and has the key signing of Dean Hammond bedding into the team. He talks about him as though he will stay with us until the end of the season at least. The manager considers his presence vital so we have to treat that level of respect at face value and trust him.

Round about this stage of the season the manager should searching for a settled side and style of play. If we are going to achieve automatic promotion and over 2.2 points per game then we desperately need to improve.

Who knows the manager might have a couple of rabbits to pull out of the hat in January but if we don't settle down and urgently improve and then gain some consistency this year then we could be out of touch by January 1st.

The remaining fixtures this year are listed below and I guess the results to show what's needed to gather points at that rate:

Shrewsbury(H) 3 points
Barnsley (A) 3
Coventry (H) 3
Scunthorpe (A) 1
Wigan (A) 1
Bradford (H) 3

Total 14 points = 2.3 points per game average.

If we do achieve 14 points or more then we have the hope of a Happy New Year but anything less could lead to us being also-rans and at best in the Play-Off lottery.

I think we can do it. Do you?

No.
 
Very much doubt it but clubs have done similar. I actually think it might be healthier if we write off this season, as supporters, and give Adkins the time needed to sort us out.
 
No, the season is a write-off. Which is ok as long as we clear the shit out in the summer and start with a clean slate. Adkins will get it right.
 
This season I suggest the 2nd placed automatic promotion spot will need a lowish points haul of around 87 points as there is a lack of outstanding teams.

We have 28 games remaining and need 61 points to get 87 points, that's 2.2 points per game on average.

The manager knows his players now and has the key signing of Dean Hammond bedding into the team. He talks about him as though he will stay with us until the end of the season at least. The manager considers his presence vital so we have to treat that level of respect at face value and trust him.

Round about this stage of the season the manager should searching for a settled side and style of play. If we are going to achieve automatic promotion and over 2.2 points per game then we desperately need to improve.

Who knows the manager might have a couple of rabbits to pull out of the hat in January but if we don't settle down and urgently improve and then gain some consistency this year then we could be out of touch by January 1st.

The remaining fixtures this year are listed below and I guess the results to show what's needed to gather points at that rate:

Shrewsbury(H) 3 points
Barnsley (A) 3
Coventry (H) 3
Scunthorpe (A) 1
Wigan (A) 1
Bradford (H) 3

Total 14 points = 2.3 points per game average.

If we do achieve 14 points or more then we have the hope of a Happy New Year but anything less could lead to us being also-rans and at best in the Play-Off lottery.

I think we can do it. Do you?


Even BTL is laughing at that.
 
Our results against top half sides so far are:

P9 W1 D4 L4 Pts 7 F11 A17

This side over the remaining games is not going to turn into the equivalent of a "100 points in the season" side.

However, the top 6 is still achievable. That is much more realistic

Firstly, we need to finish in the top 6 - we'll need to 49 points from 28 games (1.75 points per game) to guarantee 75 points.

That's a 22% improvement on our average 1.44 points per game at the moment.

Then, in my opinion, we need to be the form team scoring goals when the play offs start.

One day it will happen for us at Wembley.

I really feel tomorrow night is a must win.
 
He'll have to resist calling out our supporters. That's a slippery slope and I admit being livid after his comments regarding Hammond. If he's that convinced that we're all too thick to see what Hammond puts into a game, I challenge him to release his Pro-Zone stats.
Great call, I'd love to see the pro-zone stats of our players.
 



The manager knows his players now and has the key signing of Dean Hammond bedding into the team. He talks about him as though he will stay with us until the end of the season at least. The manager considers his presence vital so we have to treat that level of respect at face value and trust him.

He must be playing like Messi in the away games because I've seen nothing at BDTBL to suggest he is an improvement on McGinn/Doyle/Holt/Scougal/Coutts et al. In fact you name anyone he is an improvement on.
 

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