As boring as patient lock picking is.......

[Basing Blade]

.......I think that is the way for us to play at home.
Keep the ball. Patiently unpick them. If they get it, nearest man is in quickly high up the pitch. Defend from the front.
They get spun around and eventually their concentration level withers. We will score that way.
They won't counter attack, as we don't commit too many forward.

Sorry to say it. Much as I love the barnstorming up and at em Blades of yesteryear.

Discuss.

 

[Bladebri]

.......I think that is the way for us to play at home.
Keep the ball. Patiently unpick them. If they get it, nearest man is in quickly high up the pitch. Defend from the front.
They get spun around and eventually their concentration level withers. We will score that way.
They won't counter attack, as we don't commit too many forward.

Sorry to say it. Much as I love the barnstorming up and at em Blades of yesteryear.

Discuss.

Sounds like a plan

 

[South London Blade]

.......I think that is the way for us to play at home.
Keep the ball. Patiently unpick them. If they get it, nearest man is in quickly high up the pitch. Defend from the front.
They get spun around and eventually their concentration level withers. We will score that way.
They won't counter attack, as we don't commit too many forward.

Sorry to say it. Much as I love the barnstorming up and at em Blades of yesteryear.

Discuss.

You've got to hold and give
But do it at the right time
You can be slow or fast
But you must get to the line
They'll always hit you and hurt you
Defend and attack
There's only one way to beat them
Get round the back

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

What's there to discuss?

Exactly what we'll need to do sometimes.

Watched the game again on BP and Fleetwood were just taken apart.

It helped enormously that when we were 1-0 up early on, we knew exactly how to play.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

Our game did speed up in the second half but that may have been the result of the near total control of the first. Or instructions. Or personnel. Or some combination.

 

[finlaytheblade]

Our game did speed up in the second half but that may have been the result of the near total control of the first. Or instructions. Or personnel. Or some combination.

Coutts was the man who opened the door in the second half best cameo by a blade in a long time.simple stuff really pass and move he seemed to motivate the other players to want the ball something that was missing until he came on.

 

[Pedro Verde]

Our game did speed up in the second half but that may have been the result of the near total control of the first. Or instructions. Or personnel. Or some combination.

According to DerryBlade in another thread the second half performance improved after the booing in the first half

 

[Small Mendonca]

.......I think that is the way for us to play at home.
Keep the ball. Patiently unpick them. If they get it, nearest man is in quickly high up the pitch. Defend from the front.
They get spun around and eventually their concentration level withers. We will score that way.
They won't counter attack, as we don't commit too many forward.

Sorry to say it. Much as I love the barnstorming up and at em Blades of yesteryear.

Discuss.

I'd boo ferociously at that

 

[SwissBlade]

Well it worked and it worked well against a very poor side. But they were also patient and organised, they just weren't good enough.

We did well scoring in the first minute as it took pressure from the crowd off. But had we been missing chances and it was 0-0 after an hour we'd have had even more restless fans... And they might've sensed a chance

In theory it should work against all negative teams putting 10 men behind the ball, but we'll have games when it doesn't work.

What we need is a plan b & c in games, something we've not had for years

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

Well it worked and it worked well against a very poor side. But they were also patient and organised, they just weren't good enough.

We did well scoring in the first minute as it took pressure from the crowd off. But had we been missing chances and it was 0-0 after an hour we'd have had even more restless fans... And they might've sensed a chance

In theory it should work against all negative teams putting 10 men behind the ball, but we'll have games when it doesn't work.

What we need is a plan b & c in games, something we've not had for years

We've gone to Plan B (and occasionally Plan C) in pretty much every game this season haven't we? Often out of necessity.

Adkins has also mentioned from the outset.that he wanted to be able to play three systems in one game.

 

[SwissBlade]

We've gone to Plan B (and occasionally Plan C) in pretty much every game this season haven't we? Often out of necessity.

Adkins has also mentioned from the outset.that he wanted to be able to play three systems in one game.

Plan b? We've rarely played plan A!

Adkins talks a great game, but it's rare that we've seen anything new from last season

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

According to DerryBlade in another thread the second half performance improved after the booing in the first half

The post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.

;-)

 

[Barney]

We were up and at them last season?

I thought they were about as opposite from that as can be.

Boring, backward, defensive, bollocks.

A style of play that seems to be taking Adkins fancy as well so far.

 

[blade too long]

You've got to hold and give
But do it at the right time
You can be slow or fast
But you must get to the line
They'll always hit you and hurt you
Defend and attack
There's only one way to beat them
Get round the back

giving me insomnia

 

[blade too long]

We've gone to Plan B (and occasionally Plan C) in pretty much every game this season haven't we? Often out of necessity.

Adkins has also mentioned from the outset.that he wanted to be able to play three systems in one game.

to be fair weve won our last 4 at home scoring 14, but the thing that matters were they werent all won with the same tactics
so Adkins does have alternatives in his port folio

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

Plan b? We've rarely played plan A!

Adkins talks a great game, but it's rare that we've seen anything new from last season

Hard to know what to say to that.

4-4-2. Goals. Pitch. Shirts. Goals. Energising positivity (though not everyone's energised, clearly). Corners. 4-2-4. Six footers. Goals. Half the team. Adventurousness. Dug outs. 4-3-3. And Goals.

For instance.

 

[Cyprus Blade]

We've gone to Plan B (and occasionally Plan C) in pretty much every game this season haven't we?

So that's two plans more than Cloughie had.

 

[Barney]

Plan b? We've rarely played plan A!

Adkins talks a great game, but it's rare that we've seen anything new from last season

Spot on. Some are so far up his rectum they can't bring themselves to a fair observation. Anything questioning the untouchable one and that's it, the clapping hands are out.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

So that's two plans more than Cloughie had.

Tbf he did try 4-4-2 one game but it was hopelessly ineffective.

Then there was the freeform footballing anarchy away at Swindon.

 

[Woodwardfan]

.......I think that is the way for us to play at home.
Keep the ball. Patiently unpick them. If they get it, nearest man is in quickly high up the pitch. Defend from the front.
They get spun around and eventually their concentration level withers. We will score that way.
They won't counter attack, as we don't commit too many forward.

Sorry to say it. Much as I love the barnstorming up and at em Blades of yesteryear.

Discuss.

Until the Fleetwood game I thought we played the ball too long too often.

The presence of Hammond changed our mentality IMO. The lad had an average game but I sense his very presence encouraged our team to keep possession, often leading to a pass to him. The team have lacked leadership and we may now have it.

Maybe rightly, maybe wrongly, I sensed Coutts had a point or two to prove when he came on. Bear in mind Michael Doyle once said Coutts was "head and shoulders the best player on the training ground".

 

[blade too long]

players come good when they are settled , perhaps Coutts has settled
lots of players dont find their mojo straight away, if hes happy playing to this system might see a better player now

 

[Rodley]

Plan b? We've rarely played plan A!

Adkins talks a great game, but it's rare that we've seen anything new from last season

It's similar to Clough but actually with goals, so infinitely better. Generally though I think the play is just a reflection of the poor squad / crap recruitment of NC.

 

[Boxer Blade]

The first half against Fleetwood was just like last season under clough, the second half

was much better, especially when coutts was introduced I would like to see him and Hammond

play together on Saturday, either play bash at centre half or on the bench, not a big fan of bash

in mid field

 

[SwissBlade]

It's similar to Clough but actually with goals, so infinitely better. Generally though I think the play is just a reflection of the poor squad / crap recruitment of NC.

Goals at both ends...

 

[SwissBlade]

Hard to know what to say to that.

4-4-2. Goals. Pitch. Shirts. Goals. Energising positivity (though not everyone's energised, clearly). Corners. 4-2-4. Six footers. Goals. Half the team. Adventurousness. Dug outs. 4-3-3. And Goals.

For instance.

Wow! And I thought I was positive!

 

[Blade55]

Personally thought the patient lock picking, applied to the first half, owed a lot to a lack of movement in front of the ball and therefore a lack of options.

 

[Caseh]

Plan b? We've rarely played plan A!

Adkins talks a great game, but it's rare that we've seen anything new from last season

When barny agrees with you, surely that is enough proof that maybe you're wrong?

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

Until the Fleetwood game I thought we played the ball too long too often.

The presence of Hammond changed our mentality IMO. The lad had an average game but I sense his very presence encouraged our team to keep possession, often leading to a pass to him. The team have lacked leadership and we may now have it.

Maybe rightly, maybe wrongly, I sensed Coutts had a point or two to prove when he came on. Bear in mind Michael Doyle once said Coutts was "head and shoulders the best player on the training ground".

It'll be interesting to see how things develop. Getting a stupidly early goal really set that game up for us to play that way and for it to be effective (well for it not to be ineffective at any rate: it didn't matter if we passed it around at the back and lacked penetration bc we'd already scored. If we could have a goal start every game we'd (literally) walk this division )

If we try it again on Satdi and it stays 0-0 I can see the reaction from some being even worse, and we'll end up lumping it positively forward towards the memory of Brian Deane.

I wondered about Coutts's uncharacteristic sense of urgency and whether the presence of Hammond had influenced him ie no longer the Alpha Male - in his own mind at least. (Fwiw the quote from Doyle might well be apocryphal.)

Hard to tell if we'd just passed them to death and they were there for the taking, or the first half was too slow and we'd upped the tempo as a result. Whatever it was Coutts was instrumental.

 

[Woodwardfan]

It'll be interesting to see how things develop. Getting a stupidly early goal really set that game up for us to play that way and for it to be effective (well for it not to be ineffective at any rate: it didn't matter if we passed it around at the back and lacked penetration bc we'd already scored. If we could have a goal start every game we'd (literally) walk this division )

If we try it again on Satdi and it stays 0-0 I can see the reaction from some being even worse, and we'll end up lumping it positively forward towards the memory of Brian Deane.

I wondered about Coutts's uncharacteristic sense of urgency and whether the presence of Hammond had influenced him ie no longer the Alpha Male - in his own mind at least. (Fwiw the quote from Doyle might well be apocryphal.)

Hard to tell if we'd just passed them to death and they were there for the taking, or the first half was too slow and we'd upped the tempo as a result. Whatever it was Coutts was instrumental.

Maybe the Millwall test will tell us more but the manager has to interpret all these aspects and then make decisions.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Hard to know what to say to that.

4-4-2. Goals. Pitch. Shirts. Goals. Energising positivity (though not everyone's energised, clearly). Corners. 4-2-4. Six footers. Goals. Half the team. Adventurousness. Dug outs. 4-3-3. And Goals.

For instance.

He'd be amazing as a middle manager in a corporate would Nige, proper management speak with all the motivational bits of a "good leader" thrown in. I used to think Brendan Rodgers spoke like he'd swallowed a corporate management bible but Nige isn't far behind. Obviously a place for it in today's game as more are looking to traditional management techniques instead of the hairdryer treatment.

No one can beat Carlos Carvalhal-Brent though, true speaker of bollocks that bloke.