Are wingers the key?

[blader]

there may be a correlation in this. Look at all the top teams, they each have a wide player of real quality: Burnley - eagles, qpr - taraabt, cardiff - bellamy, swansea - sinclair.... the list goes on.

Also, when our only winger started playing well, look what happened: two games, 4 points and we looked a dangerous side. Is it possible that we may only be a winger away from being near the higher reaches of the league?

 

[SwissBlade]

I think the key is not necessarily a winger but a creative player that can get goals and create goals.

 

[davidpinder]

I think the key would be a totally new 11 at this rate.

 

[DP8789]

wingers with 442 is the key, wingers with 451 isnt as you are asking to be a wing forward, all we need is someone with pace and good delivery and then let an attacking midfield player and 2 strikers bob the ball in.

we need pace and quality in the entire squad.

 

[Willie Carlin]

wingers with 442 is the key, wingers with 451 isnt as you are asking to be a wing forward, all we need is someone with pace and good delivery and then let an attacking midfield player and 2 strikers bob the ball in.

we need pace and quality in the entire squad.

Have to agree!! We need pace.

 

[beightonblade]

Yes ....Woody and Gil Reece

 

[Willie Carlin]

Yes ....Woody and Gil Reece

They tell me your gert's a fast worker. Wink! Wink!

 

[Kempy]

wingers with 442 is the key, wingers with 451 isnt as you are asking to be a wing forward, all we need is someone with pace and good delivery and then let an attacking midfield player and 2 strikers bob the ball in.

we need pace and quality in the entire squad.

Completely agree with DP
-If you look at wingers you've put there: sinclair, eagles.... you look at all the best teams in the championship at the moment. They all have pacey wingers with a good delivery.
-Look at our team - Ward pace, but still a striker not a winger. Yeates yes and thank fuck the lad is now playing but jesus we have to play 442 hate all this shit with 451/433 its all bollocks and doesnt work, especially when we have not one creative midfielder in the middle. Britton??... not what he was made out to be in my books. All talk. Cresswell, im sick of seeing strikers on the fecking wings!! it doesn't work! When speedo gets this into his skull we will be alot better off

-completly out of context, but nosworthy that wank excuse for a football player can fuck off back to sunderland

 

[boo radley]

I like wing backs

 

[Highbury_Blade]

I like wing backs

Works for me on FIFA 11!

 

[Grecian2000]

I like wing backs

Don't you mean "sling backs"?

 

[Elsecar_Blade]

Wingers in a 442 is the United way: from my time, we have Colin Morris, Ian Bryson, Dane Whitehouse, Alan Roberts, Paul Wood, Franz Carr, Paul Devlin, Peter Ndlovu, Michael Tonge (on the left), Paul Ifill, Colin Kazim-Richards. They all did a good job for United in the respective divisions and we looked most dangerous when they were on form. For example, Deane and Agana wouldn't have got half as many goals as they did without Bryson, Marcus Bent's goals usually came from assists from Devlin, Ifill - for all the slating he got - set up plenty of Shipperley's goals.

And that's without mentioning my Dad's favourite player, Mr Woodward!

Good wingers would suit Britton and Ertl/Monty/Quinn. Get the ball and get it wide - simple play. If you've not got a creative midfielder, effective wingers are the answer. Look at Newcastle last season. Smith and Nolan were not creative players but they just got the ball wide to Gutierrez and Routledge who did the damage setting up Carroll, Ameobi and Nolan himself. Simples.

 

[super_pig]

>I like wing backs
yeah me too boo.. otherwise you end up with four marking one.. the problem here is that the players need to be retaught tactics and formations.. our usual formation is 10 -1 and then 1 -10 after they've charged up the field after the ball

> Marcus Bent's goals usually came from assists from Devlin
did you know that devlin actually left because him and bent kept getting in 'heated exchanges' (punch ups) over bents inability to pass to him

 

[ListerBlade]

Completely agree with DP
Britton??... not what he was made out to be in my books.

The only point of yours I disagree with, but I have only been to 3 games this season so far, (QPR, Scunny & Forest) but I think Britton is a great signing. He was free and can pass a ball-what we've been after for years. It's just a shame that we sort one area out and weaken another.

 

[Elsecar_Blade]

>I like wing backs
yeah me too boo.. otherwise you end up with four marking one.. the problem here is that the players need to be retaught tactics and formations.. our usual formation is 10 -1 and then 1 -10 after they've charged up the field after the ball

> Marcus Bent's goals usually came from assists from Devlin
did you know that devlin actually left because him and bent kept getting in 'heated exchanges' (punch ups) over bents inability to pass to him

I thought Bent went first? Could be wrong!

I remember the two of them almost scrapping in a meaningless moment on the pitch - I think we were 6-0 up over Lincoln or summat - and it was ridiculous. Playground stuff!

What ever happened to Devlin?

 

[Kempy]

Completely agree with DP
Britton??... not what he was made out to be in my books.

The only point of yours I disagree with, but I have only been to 3 games this season so far, (QPR, Scunny & Forest) but I think Britton is a great signing. He was free and can pass a ball-what we've been after for years. It's just a shame that we sort one area out and weaken another.

Yeah he came on a free, but to be honest i just dont think he's played aswell as he can. Seems as if so far he has been very overated and poor.

 

[norfolkblade]

Works for me on FIFA 11!

Works for my Saturday team, 3-5-2 using wing backs, played 8, won 8!

 

[Baildon Blade]

Completely agree with DP
Britton??... not what he was made out to be in my books.

What total bollox! The one player in the team comfortable on the ball, quick feet and can actually pass. How many creative midfield players must we 'crash & burn' before realising it's not their fault.
I think your years of watching hoofball have actually addled your brain.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

Yeah he came on a free, but to be honest i just dont think he's played aswell as he can. Seems as if so far he has been very overated and poor.

Thats extremely unfair to Leon Britton and somewhat defies belief to read it

He is the only player in our entire squad that looks capable of receiving a distributing the ball with any quality. He's a very good Championship midfielder playing in a very average (and at times poor) Championship side. He sticks out like a sore thumb in our midfield.

You're entitled to your opinion but IMO you should look again and more closely. He's like Speed.....good ideas but nothing to work with.

 

[raul]

Think we're getting too bogged down in formations here. I'd be happier if we had players able to assess situations on the field and change things there and then. We appear to have players far more comfortable with the notion that, as long as they stand roughly where they've been told to, that's all thats expected of them. Doesn't look like anyone is aware enough or authoratitive enough to mix things up and keep the opposition guessing.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

Think we're getting too bogged down in formations here. I'd be happier if we had players able to assess situations on the field and change things there and then. We appear to have players far more comfortable with the notion that, as long as they stand roughly where they've been told to, that's all thats expected of them. Doesn't look like anyone is aware enough or authoratitive enough to mix things up and keep the opposition guessing.

Nail planted firmly on the head! You're definately onto something there raul.

In other words it goes back to a point ive made before. Our shape is far too rigid and we have a lot of players with limited ability (particularly across the middle) who are incapable of linking up the play or playing between the lines.

I dont have a problem with many of our players in terms of their discipline and work ethic, but far too many of them are uncomfortable in possession and that is not the making of a good football team.

We are far too square and inflexible to be a force at this level at the moment.

 

[Grecian2000]

What total bollox! The one player in the team comfortable on the ball, quick feet and can actually pass. How many creative midfield players must we 'crash & burn' before realising it's not their fault.
I think your years of watching hoofball have actually addled your brain.

I think that is extremely harsh.

Britton is, by far, the best player at the club in my opinion. However, when we signed him he was going to be the "missing piece of the jigsaw" or "the player who'll open up the opposition". This was the opinion of the bloke who bought him and plenty on here. Oh how the people who pointed to his goalscoring record and his role in the Swansea midfield and suggested this might not be the case were lambasted.
Well he hasn't been (and never will be) the kind of player we were told he would be or were promised he would be, however good he may be at what he actually does.

We have bought Ernie Wise but haven't got Eric Morecambe (or Ronnie Barker or Bobby Ball or, even, Eddie Large). We are trying to pair him with Tommy Cannon or Sid Little and that ain't ever going to be funny.

 

[Bergen Blade]

I think that is extremely harsh.

Britton is, by far, the best player at the club in my opinion. However, when we signed him he was going to be the "missing piece of the jigsaw" or "the player who'll open up the opposition". This was the opinion of the bloke who bought him and plenty on here. Oh how the people who pointed to his goalscoring record and his role in the Swansea midfield and suggested this might not be the case were lambasted.
Well he hasn't been (and never will be) the kind of player we were told he would be or were promised he would be, however good he may be at what he actually does.

Agree. You could say people thought he was a Michael Brown (v2002/03), but he's more like Stuart McCall - a deep lying playmaker.

 

[Guesty]

Britton can't ever have been the final piece of the jigsaw, because the rest of it wasn't bloody there.

 

[blader]

was going to say almost word for word guesty! look, britton is by a long long way our best footballer. Hes being made look worse by the other 10 around that have no idea what theyre doing. For example, he sees passes that the receiving player doesnt see and therefore it looks like britton has misplaced a pass. I couldnt see us being in the top 21 without him in the team personally...

 

[judge]

 

[Chris Webster]

I think it comes down to simply having a top quality out and out striker. Our defence looks good enough, our midfiled looks good enough to get by but I think it simply comes down to having nobody who knows how to put the ball in the back of the net. Whether it's 6 yards out or 25 yards out we've got nobody who can hit the back of the net on regular basis. One thing cannot be argued though, Cresswell is not a winger and should be nowhere other than the oponents penalty area. Thats the only way he is ever going to be effective.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Chris Webster younger brother of Richard per chance?

 

[bricktop]

You still on holiday Les?

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Arrr laddie - fly back Monday back in immigrant loving bankrupt slum England tues am