are blades managers bothered about getting sacked?

[pommpey]

I think his point is that for most United fans success is secondary to the attachment we feel to the club. After all, if we really wanted success, we would support Man Utd/Arsenal/Chelsea/ Leicester etc etc.

'Most'. I'd say the success of the club is paramount to their attachment. No one I know makes haste on a Saturday to BDTBL safe in the knowledge we'll get beaten.

I don't know anyone who imagines Sheffield United as a top six PL club, and in my time, I certainly haven't. It would be fanciful, nice ... but it would change the club too much for me. But I'll bet you a sizeable amount of beer that not may fans, attendees or exiles like me, imagine us spending six seasons trapped in the third tier of English football, haemorrhaging footballing talent and owning nothing to show for it, not even a Johnstone's Paint Trophy.

pommpey

 

[Barney]

I'd say the success of the club is paramount to their attachment.

If that was the case, attendances wouldn't have held up like they have over the past 5 years.

 

[BushBlade]

And that, my friend is my point.

I don't have an issue with people being at the match for the sake of watching football. What I have an issue with is twats like McCabe taking advantage of that, selling our better players, buying a pointless plastic pitch and blaming managers for the lack of success on it. Given our decline and fall, are you really sure we are not Notts County, in all but strip?

pommpey

Which is why it kinda makes me sad seeing people take the poisoned chalice of a 10% reduced season ticket, largely out of habit and culture. I don't get how people cannot see that this is simple reinforcing strategies keeping that daft cunt right were he wants to be, in a third division club sat on millions of pounds of real estate with a failing, weakened football team and its tens of thousands of willing, paying customers and no need whatsoever to invest in betterment, because come what may, they'll just keep drinking the Kool-Aid and hitting the buzzer bar for a food pellet.

I was responding to the paragraph above. Most particularly the 'reinforcing' bit. Which does imply you have a problem with people attending the games.

 

[Darren]

'Most'. I'd say the success of the club is paramount to their attachment. No one I know makes haste on a Saturday to BDTBL safe in the knowledge we'll get beaten.

I don't know anyone who imagines Sheffield United as a top six PL club, and in my time, I certainly haven't. It would be fanciful, nice ... but it would change the club too much for me. But I'll bet you a sizeable amount of beer that not may fans, attendees or exiles like me, imagine us spending six seasons trapped in the third tier of English football, haemorrhaging footballing talent and owning nothing to show for it, not even a Johnstone's Paint Trophy.

pommpey

You're missing my point. We all want United to do well but that desire for success comes second to the emotional attachment. If it didn't we would support a team that was successful.

 

[bornablade]

I'm surprised a club doesn't just go through the normal disciplinary procedure. I would imagine that in any other industry an employee publicly criticizing that company's customers should lead to a first warning. After that just build up the evidence to issue further warnings and then dismiss. If it means us going to the European Court of Human Rights then so be it. We look forward to seeing you there Mr Adkins.

 

[pommpey]

If that was the case, attendances wouldn't have held up like they have over the past 5 years.

Indeed. Is this not some false dawn situation we are seeing here? McCabe has had to reduce a major revenue stream this coming season by 10% (for which I guarantee he will roll out as a reason for not being 'able' to invest) to catch the drop in season ticket uptake. The tolerance of Sheffield United fans is outstanding given what they have had to endure, failure upon failure. We have been in this situation before, mid eighties before Bassett when the club looked bereft of direction and talent. Here is where we are again.

pommpey

 

[pommpey]

I was responding to the paragraph above. Most particularly the 'reinforcing' bit. Which does imply you have a problem with people attending the games.

No. Once again, I am dismayed that people renew their season tickets and reinforce McCabe's fucked-up governance of the club. It's a decreasing, circular decline, because I feel I'd be able to gauge these supporter's reactions when we go down to Colchester and Crewe at home with little or no fight.

pommpey

 

[BushBlade]

No. Once again, I am dismayed that people renew their season tickets and reinforce McCabe's fucked-up governance of the club. It's a decreasing, circular decline, because I feel I'd be able to gauge these supporter's reactions when we go down to Colchester and Crewe at home with little or no fight.

pommpey

I'm really not sure how your response contradicts my point, even though you write as if it does? If the people who buy STs 'dismay' you, then you've got a problem with it.

 

[pommpey]

I'm really not sure how your response contradicts my point, even though you write as if it does? If the people who buy STs 'dismay' you, then you've got a problem with it.

Again, it is you who is missing the point - or purposefully trying to make one where one needn't be made.

The people who buy STs willingly out of habit 'dismay' me, because it basically licenses McCabe's seemingly ridiculous campaign to fuck this club over. Let's not forget that he (apparently) put four/eight million into the club last season. If you have some sort of breakdown as to where that went, then let's see it. Meanwhile, he drops ST prices by 10% (as a tempter) and I will guarantee that if next season turns up a barrel of dogshit (or he sells Che, Done, Billy or the beard) he'll cite that the money hasn't been coming in - and he dropped the ST price by 10%. It's self defeating nonsense, and I an not surprised (well, I am not unsurprised) you can't see that. People are willingly ploughing cash into the pockets of McCabe to mismanage and then pretend that he's done the fans a massive favour.

The 'real' game changing investment will come when we are promoted, of course. Mind you, with players of low ability, that's hardly likely to happen, is it?

And its been going on for some time.

Hope this helps.

pommpey

 

[BushBlade]

Again, it is you who is missing the point - or purposefully trying to make one where one needn't be made.

The people who buy STs willingly out of habit 'dismay' me, because it basically licenses McCabe's seemingly ridiculous campaign to fuck this club over. Let's not forget that he (apparently) put four/eight million into the club last season. If you have some sort of breakdown as to where that went, then let's see it. Meanwhile, he drops ST prices by 10% (as a tempter) and I will guarantee that if next season turns up a barrel of dogshit (or he sells Che, Done, Billy or the beard) he'll cite that the money hasn't been coming in - and he dropped the ST price by 10%. It's self defeating nonsense, and I an not surprised (well, I am not unsurprised) you can't see that. People are willingly ploughing cash into the pockets of McCabe to mismanage and then pretend that he's done the fans a massive favour.

The 'real' game changing investment will come when we are promoted, of course. Mind you, with players of low ability, that's hardly likely to happen, is it?

And its been going on for some time.

Hope this helps.

pommpey

and I an not surprised (well, I am not unsurprised) you can't see that

You wonder why I don't get your point with sentences like that?

 

[BushBlade]

You wonder why I don't get your point with sentences like that?

Sorry, bit of a snide comment. I'm not posting anymore until I can sort my anger out. I'm fucking pissed off, with the shit we're in, and irrational.