Outgoing? Arblaster

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SouthStandGBlock said:
But even clubs with the spending power of PSG are getting players running down their contracts.

We have just signed Burrows on a 4 year contract. This might be smart business, but if he's terrible then we're stuck with him for 4 years. Grbic is the same.

Even good solid pros like Baldock run their contracts down.

I think we got good/decent money for Berge and Ndiaye in the circumstances.
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I think there's been problems with leverage management of contracts since the relegation fallout (Wilder's first spell).. It was a complete contrast from Wilder's first spell when it was very well handled and after Wilder/relegation.I think we simply didn't have the £ to manage contracts due to the financial fallout and the owners relative lack of wealth.

I struggle to believe that it was because the Prince thinks players play better in their last year of their contracts 🤣. It was a shift and it was caused by something. We all know about the embargo, the money owed, and the the lack of permanent signings in this period due to lack of £. At the time we didn't know how deep the issues were until the embargo revelations.To give Ndiaye, Osula, Arblaster, Jebbison, Bogle, Mcburnie, Egan etc new deals on better terms at that time would've put us further in the shit.

Hopefully we can start managing them better now.
 
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SouthStandGBlock said:
Fair enough, but you're splitting hairs.

I should have phrased it, since the Prince has been sole Chairman.
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I don't give a pass for that period to either owner. It's strange to omit it imo.

I think we did well out of Ramsdale and average out of Ndiaye. I can't really think of many others. I remember us blocking a derisory bid for O'Connell from Brighton but I think that was joint ownership too. The Murphy sale also happened then. About 2 million all told.
 
nopigfansintown said:
I don't give a pass for that period to either owner. It's strange to omit it imo.

I think we did well out of Ramsdale and average out of Ndiaye. I can't really think of many others. I remember us blocking a derisory bid for O'Connell from Brighton but I think that was joint ownership too. The Murphy sale also happened then. About 2 million all told.
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The ownership was 50/50, but I think McCabe thought he had the casting vote, given he'd brought PA in, and was the former Chairman.

Old Princey outsmarted him though, and turned out to be the Cuckoo in the nest.

My admiration for PA is waning fast, but he knows how to do a deal** I'll give him that. He's the only person I know who has scammed a Nigerian.

**Watch the takeover fall apart as PA's demands can't be met.....🤣🤣
 
Weasel said:
Arblaster isn't going anywhere this summer and certainly not to the likes of Everton, Leicester or Ipswich. They can't afford him and he's on a nice long contract. The bit on the wrag is just utter nonsense and made up. I bet there are loads of clubs interested in him, the vast majority would be able to get close to the money we would want (it would be more than twice the figure they've just made up anyway).
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I think the fans are tolerant of losing Osula! Quite the opposite with Arblaster he is one of our own ( big blade) I don't think the Prince dare sell him at this stage in his career! It's all in front of him .
He may go in the future if he reaches the heights we hope for him and the club,it would revolve around wages and ambition if we couldn't match those.
Osula sale should open the door to some more excellent signings to add to what we have .( CW brought some useful ones so far )
Desperate for a goalkeeper and centre back.
 
SouthStandGBlock said:
The ownership was 50/50, but I think McCabe thought he had the casting vote, given he'd brought PA in, and was the former Chairman.

Old Princey outsmarted him though, and turned out to be the Cuckoo in the nest.

My admiration for PA is waning fast, but he knows how to do a deal** I'll give him that. He's the only person I know who has scammed a Nigerian.

**Watch the takeover fall apart as PA's demands can't be met.....🤣🤣
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At one of the press conferences at the time of the joint ownership, one of the comments was that we no longer have to sell our top academy talent or something like that
🤣. It might have been McCabe that said that, I don't remember. 🤣🤣🤣
 
finlaytheblade said:
I think the fans are tolerant of losing Osula! Quite the opposite with Arblaster he is one of our own ( big blade) I don't think the Prince dare sell him at this stage in his career! It's all in front of him .
He may go in the future if he reaches the heights we hope for him and the club,it would revolve around wages and ambition if we couldn't match those.
Osula sale should open the door to some more excellent signings to add to what we have .( CW brought some useful ones so far )
Desperate for a goalkeeper and centre back.
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Yep, would agree with all that. I'd be get to the stage of selling Arblaster (unless Man City come in for him with a huge transfer offer) then we really are at shit creek stage. I don't think we are anywhere near that. Without going into why we are where we are money wise atm (been done to death on here) the fact is we need money to allow CW to bring in much needed players. He's made a decision to sell one to finances numerous others coming in. Don't like us selling Osula but I can understand the decision. Selling Arblaster (unless for silly money) and I would be done with the club.
 
nopigfansintown said:
At one of the press conferences at the time of the joint ownership, one of the comments was that we no longer have to sell our top academy talent or something like that
🤣. It might have been McCabe that said that, I don't remember. 🤣🤣🤣
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If McCabe shook my hand I'd check I still had my watch on afterwards.
 
nopigfansintown said:
At one of the press conferences at the time of the joint ownership, one of the comments was that we no longer have to sell our top academy talent or something like that
🤣. It might have been McCabe that said that, I don't remember. 🤣🤣🤣
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I doubt it will have been PA. He sees value everywhere. I wouldn't be surprised to see him on Storage Hunters or Flog it.

McCabe is more likely to be on that programme Stacey Solomon does where they get all their belongings in an aircraft hanger, then chuck most of it it a skip or give it to Charity.
 
The benefit here is that Oli is a Blade, so I doubt he will be pushing for a move, just yet.
 
Berkshire Blade said:
Daily mail seem to think sides are sniffing around him for 12 million (scroll down)

www.dailymail.co.uk

Newcastle United are in talks with Sheffield United over William Osula

Newcastle see potential in the Denmark U21 international and have proposed £10million with a further £5m in add ons. Negotiations are continuing with Osula keen to make the switch.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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Could be available for around £12m. If he goes for that I'd be fuming. Surely that's just paper talk. We've already sold or about to sell to promising players. Unless we have to, players who are young shouldn't be sold unless it's crazy money.
 
Weasel said:
Arblaster isn't going anywhere this summer and certainly not to the likes of Everton, Leicester or Ipswich. They can't afford him and he's on a nice long contract. The bit on the wrag is just utter nonsense and made up. I bet there are loads of clubs interested in him, the vast majority would be able to get close to the money we would want (it would be more than twice the figure they've just made up anyway).
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All what you say makes sense Weasel, but I wonder if OA also has a release clause in his contract like Hamer? It seems to be the in thing with agents negotiating these days and OA’s agent is McAtees agent so he won’t be wet behind the ears in negotiations
 
Weasel said:
Yep, would agree with all that. I'd be get to the stage of selling Arblaster (unless Man City come in for him with a huge transfer offer) then we really are at shit creek stage. I don't think we are anywhere near that. Without going into why we are where we are money wise atm (been done to death on here) the fact is we need money to allow CW to bring in much needed players. He's made a decision to sell one to finances numerous others coming in. Don't like us selling Osula but I can understand the decision. Selling Arblaster (unless for silly money) and I would be done with the club.
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If Man City were interested or any other big club, they may not need to come in with a huge offer if OA has a release clause in his contract?

Meeting the figure is all that is required and whilst the figure may well be substantial, it may not reflect the players true worth?
 

If Osula is worth £10-15m, Arblaster is worth £35m-£40m.

Leeds just sold Gray for about £40m.

Arblaster has already looked good in the Prem and had an extremely strong L1 loan - he's also English which always bumps the price.

I don't think Arblaster will want to leave at this point anyway. A Blades fan that's just broken through and might be a star player - certainly an extremely popular player. He's not going to pass up that opportunity (I'd guess), with his whole career ahead to move on if and when he wants.
 
Blade58 said:
If Man City were interested or any other big club, they may not need to come in with a huge offer if OA has a release clause in his contract?

Meeting the figure is all that is required and whilst the figure may well be substantial, it may not reflect the players true worth?
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Yep, all depends if there is a minimum figure release clause in the contract. But even if there was, I'd expect it to be higher than £12m.
 
ChipButtyBlade said:
When the big clubs dangle the Jazar the Prince takes notice.
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Of course it's called good ownership, in the real world, you wouldn't want it any other way.
Almost every owner listens to bids and is willing to sell players when the bid is well above their value.

If we receive a 25 million bid for Arblaster....then expect us to sell, as long as we have other players lined that will improve the team.
It's called wheeling and dealing, all clubs do it and hopefully it turns out into being good business.

The only exception is Chansiri.
He's an owner that gets emotionally attached to some of their players and won't sell no matter what the bid is.
 
"The only exception is Chansiri.
He's an owner that gets emotionally attached to some of their players and won't sell no matter what the bid is"

Incorrect he only buys absolute shit, so nobody else wants them. Seriously what large bids have they had for any players?
 
Sheffsteel said:
Of course it's called good ownership, in the real world, you wouldn't want it any other way.
Almost every owner listens to bids and is willing to sell players when the bid is well above their value.

If we receive a 25 million bid for Arblaster....then expect us to sell, as long as we have other players lined that will improve the team.
It's called wheeling and dealing, all clubs do it and hopefully it turns out into being good business.

The only exception is Chansiri.
He's an owner that gets emotionally attached to some of their players and won't sell no matter what the bid is.
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He handled that Forestieri situation terribly. If he was playing for us he should’ve been booted out asap. Absolute nutcase.
 
Original United said:
"The only exception is Chansiri.
He's an owner that gets emotionally attached to some of their players and won't sell no matter what the bid is"

Incorrect he only buys absolute shit, so nobody else wants them. Seriously what large bids have they had for any players?
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About £7mil+ from Derby and Newcastle for Forestieri and with hindsight they should have snapped their hands off for that deal.
 
SouthStandGBlock said:
The ownership was 50/50, but I think McCabe thought he had the casting vote, given he'd brought PA in, and was the former Chairman.

Old Princey outsmarted him though, and turned out to be the Cuckoo in the nest.

My admiration for PA is waning fast, but he knows how to do a deal** I'll give him that. He's the only person I know who has scammed a Nigerian.

**Watch the takeover fall apart as PA's demands can't be met.....🤣🤣
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What are PA'S demands?
(Just say you don't know if you don't know)
 
Bladesman said:
About £7mil+ from Derby and Newcastle for Forestieri and with hindsight they should
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Ok, so basically he had one decent (not mega) offer which he rejected in 9 1/2 years that is not exactly being inundated with offers.

Based on this i am happy to stick with my original comment of he has bought shit that nobody else wants!




Classy
 
Original United said:
Ok, so basically he had one decent (not mega) offer which he rejected in 9 1/2 years that is not exactly being inundated with offers.

Based on this i am happy to stick with my original comment of he has bought shit that nobody else wants!




Classy
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I don't disagree. I meant that's the only one I think they have ever had during his time there.
 

Irv said:
Marseille have made a loss on him.
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Marseille also sold Sarr, Aubameyang and others. So they all lasted one season. A joke really, horrendous way to run a club, I feel sorry for Iliman.

Still, he will hopefully have the opportunity to shine at Everton.
 
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