Ambition ? yer havin a laugh.

[Jim Chimmerney]

My take on ambition is not all about £££££'s although it does have its place to play.

How else can he be judged though, improving the ground, training facilities, profile of the club.....hang on

We were in a hole when McCabe took over, he was slagged off in the early days but when he felt the time was right, he loosened the purse strings and we went up. Maybe he could have supported Warnock more in Jan 07 but we don't know what happened behind the scenes and maybe NW went for the wrong players but we almost pulled it off. He put finances in place, maybe more relatively speaking than in the Prem, when we got relegated but made probably his major mistake in appointing Robson. Who knows, a different appointment and we might have bounced straight back.

He has reacted to the recession in the last 12 months and as it stands we are as well placed as anyone. By no means do I think he's blameless and I've disagreed with his decisions and actions in the past (only to be proved wrong) but I find it hard to believe he's showing a lack of ambition using the big picture.

 

[HoodedClaw]

My take on ambition is not all about £££££'s although it does have its place to play.

Blimey a bit more than the usual post.

So then BB what is your take on Ambition exactly?

 

[mattbianco1]

bramley
most on here can take a rational balanced view, I for one have reservations about the squad,style of football etc, some posters however are CONSTANTLY negative, their criticisms are never constructive beyond calls for sackings etc, it is hard to engage someone in reasoned discussion if they take such a blinkered and repetitive attitude, therfore others lose patience and end up telling them to do one, in the same way that if you shared an office/pub/house with someone like Beighton you would tire of talking to them.
I'm all for a wide range of opinions just not constant moaning and bleating

I agree with this. we're all going to disagree, all the time but certain posters just are negative and post the same drivel every day. Most of it is irrelevant nonsense.

On the other hand that jason that rings up praise or grumble every day who's overly positive. He does my head in as well. You need variation to you comments, don't just talk in monotone

 

[mattbianco1]

Blackwell is as much use as a cock flavoured lollipop....

:thumbdown:

Crikey! Maybe we should get a cock flavoured lollipop in charge then! That would mean we would have probably won the play off final OR even finished 2nd. OR even gone the whole of last season, in fact sod last season the whole of this season as well unbeaten. Not just 2 away defeats in 11 months.

Blackwell OUT
Lollipop IN!

 

[The Dark Canuck]

Originally Posted by beightonblade
It is clear a minority of members here don't agree with me 110% but its there reight.

Blackwell is the 'cheap as chips' option.

Our Terry has made quite a few cock ups.

McCabe has shown very little ambition as far as the Blades on the field are concerned, in contrast his property ambition is to be admired.

Now can some one give me a reasoned debate on my opinions?

and can someone tell me who owns the freehold to BDTBL and are any securities held against it ?

Thank you.

I'd say based on what I've read recently, it's clear a loud majority don't agree with you BeightonBlade, but let's not let the facts get in the way of a quick one liner. I'm going to try to debate the merits of your statement.

You constantly refer to KB as 'cheap as chips', last I recall, KB came in at a time when we were perilously close to being one of the few clubs to be relegated from the Premiership and the Championship in consecutive seasons, not only did he come in on three days notice, he came in at that point essentially for free, focusing on the club first and his renumeration second, AND for a last day loss against Southampton, took us from nearly seeing our lowest ebb in 17 years to one match shy of the Promotion Playoffs. For that incredible result in short period of time, KB was rewarded with a contract, and last seasons took us to within 90 minutes of a return to the Premiership. But again, the facts matter not; especially when you've got a pithy nickname that suits your agenda do they?

Terry Robinson, I agree 110%. If we keep Terry around for his FA and FL contacts, fine. Then don't allow him any role in the transfer of players to and from the club.

On to McCabe's lack of footballing ambition. I'll ask a question of you; how much of his person fortune in your opinion does our Chairman have to plough into this club, before you cease that ridiculous criticism? When he came in, we were languishing in the bottom end of Old Division One, heavily in debt to banks, represented by players who at a press might have been able to succeed at a mid level Division Two side, because they were all we were able to afford. McCabe has allowed us the financial freedom to bring in footballers who enable us to challenge for promotion, while ending our reliance on the banks, modernizing our ground, getting our name out in the world as a brand, AND investing his own money into the club. Unfortunately, despite his wealth, McCabe is not some Russian oligarch, or Middle Eastern Sheik with more brass than sense, he's a business man who understands that a club has to be run as a business, it has to be self sufficient, if not then it will ultimately fail. Would you rather support a club operating within its means a perhaps a lower standing than you'd like, OR no club at all because it operated outside its means, and went bust as it couldn't support itself? For me the answer is obvious, and I argue our Chairman is ambitious on the pitch but ambition has to be measured.

As for your last statement, I have no idea with the information you were seeking, I just sought to provide you with reasoned debate as you asked while, asking questions of you.

 

[mattbianco1]

very well said Canuck!

 

[beightonblade]

I'd say based on what I've read recently, it's clear a loud majority don't agree with you BeightonBlade, but let's not let the facts get in the way of a quick one liner. I'm going to try to debate the merits of your statement.

The silent majority are with me.

You constantly refer to KB as 'cheap as chips', last I recall, KB came in at a time when we were perilously close to being one of the few clubs to be relegated from the Premiership and the Championship in consecutive seasons, not only did he come in on three days notice, he came in at that point essentially for free, focusing on the club first and his renumeration second, AND for a last day loss against Southampton, took us from nearly seeing our lowest ebb in 17 years to one match shy of the Promotion Playoffs. For that incredible result in short period of time, KB was rewarded with a contract, and last seasons took us to within 90 minutes of a return to the Premiership. But again, the facts matter not; especially when you've got a pithy nickname that suits your agenda do they?

McCabe had a look around an brought 'cheap as chips' in on the cheap.
If McCabe had not taken his eye off the ball things wudn't have got so desperate, to make a bad choice once on a manager is forgiveable but twice ?, oot the frying pan into the fire...... our gert cud have motivated the Blades after f10pp0 went ! ..... Southampton game cheap as chips blew it. On the contract thing why oh why extend it ???????????

Terry Robinson, I agree 110%. If we keep Terry around for his FA and FL contacts, fine. Then don't allow him any role in the transfer of players to and from the club.

Is he a mason ?

On to McCabe's lack of footballing ambition. I'll ask a question of you; how much of his person fortune in your opinion does our Chairman have to plough into this club, before you cease that ridiculous criticism? When he came in, we were languishing in the bottom end of Old Division One, heavily in debt to banks, represented by players who at a press might have been able to succeed at a mid level Division Two side, because they were all we were able to afford. McCabe has allowed us the financial freedom to bring in footballers who enable us to challenge for promotion, while ending our reliance on the banks, modernizing our ground, getting our name out in the world as a brand, AND investing his own money into the club. Unfortunately, despite his wealth, McCabe is not some Russian oligarch, or Middle Eastern Sheik with more brass than sense, he's a business man who understands that a club has to be run as a business, it has to be self sufficient, if not then it will ultimately fail. Would you rather support a club operating within its means a perhaps a lower standing than you'd like, OR no club at all because it operated outside its means, and went bust as it couldn't support itself? For me the answer is obvious, and I argue our Chairman is ambitious on the pitch but ambition has to be measured.

As for your last statement, I have no idea with the information you were seeking, I just sought to provide you with reasoned debate as you asked while, asking questions of you.

Come off it ! ...............

McCabes investment in the Blades is moore than covered by the value of the freehold of BDTBL alone.... he'll walk away with more than he's put in..... remember the high interest rates he charges the Blades shark and loan spring to mind.


By the way does anybody know who owns the freehold and if any securities are held against it ?

 

[shorehamview]

Don't rise to his idiocy Judge. Beighton this is what we (except Big Mart) all think of your opinion .....

Don't presume to speak for me. I am capable of voicing my own opinion. I do not, have not and never will need anybody else to do it for me.

 

[The Dark Canuck]

Originally Posted by: bertieblade
The silent majority are with me.

If the loud majority disagree with you, HOW OH HOW, can a silent majority be with you, are you insinutating that members of the vocal majority, secretly text you with messages of support, if so, I want names, I want people outed, full on McCarthyism, have these people named and shamed for fence sitting.

McCabe had a look around an brought 'cheap as chips' in on the cheap.
If McCabe had not taken his eye off the ball things wudn't have got so desperate, to make a bad choice once on a manager is forgiveable but twice ?, oot the frying pan into the fire...... our gert cud have motivated the Blades after f10pp0 went ! ..... Southampton game cheap as chips blew it. On the contract thing why oh why extend it ???????????

As a person who has spent a great deal of time coaching schools and a couple seasons coaching a city representative side, I refute your claims.. Motivation is nowhere near as simple as you think. You'd be in need of a lobotomy to suggest otherwise. If McCabe has a failing, it's that he appointed Robbo, but he rectified by bringing in KB, he was given another contract because of the way he turned the club around, the fact that we had something to play for against Southampton was down to KB, quit being a dolt, it's really trying, and it borders on desperation.

Is he a mason ?

Ask if he knows the handshake.

Come off it ! ...............
McCabes investment in the Blades is moore(sic) than covered by the value of the freehold of BDTBL alone.... he'll walk away with more than he's put in..... remember the high interest rates he charges the Blades shark and loan spring to mind.

What prey-tell are the interest rates? Do you have a number? What are banking interest rates in England these days? Once again living in Canada I have no clue? I can tell you one thing, it's probably a damn sight lower than the 19.99% I was paying my credit card companies. Are you suggesting that the man should go against all formal business practises and just give the money away? If he was a Russian oligarch or an Arab sheik with more brass than sense, then sure I understand. But as a businessman with certain amount of SOLID capital and a great amount more FLOATING capital, you have to realize that it doesn't make sense to just throw all kinds of money around without some modicum of repayment at positive terms. Bill Gates is the worlds richest man, but in terms of SOLID cash he's certainly not, just because McCabe is worth £100M doesn't mean he's got £100M in the shed now does it?

 

[beightonblade]

If the loud majority disagree with you, HOW OH HOW, can a silent majority be with you, are you insinutating that members of the vocal majority, secretly text you with messages of support, if so, I want names, I want people outed, full on McCarthyism, have these people named and shamed for fence sitting.



As a person who has spent a great deal of time coaching schools and a couple seasons coaching a city representative side, I refute your claims.. Motivation is nowhere near as simple as you think. You'd be in need of a lobotomy to suggest otherwise. If McCabe has a failing, it's that he appointed Robbo, but he rectified by bringing in KB, he was given another contract because of the way he turned the club around, the fact that we had something to play for against Southampton was down to KB, quit being a dolt, it's really trying, and it borders on desperation.



Ask if he knows the handshake.



What prey-tell are the interest rates? Do you have a number? What are banking interest rates in England these days? Once again living in Canada I have no clue? I can tell you one thing, it's probably a damn sight lower than the 19.99% I was paying my credit card companies. Are you suggesting that the man should go against all formal business practises and just give the money away? If he was a Russian oligarch or an Arab sheik with more brass than sense, then sure I understand. But as a businessman with certain amount of SOLID capital and a great amount more FLOATING capital, you have to realize that it doesn't make sense to just throw all kinds of money around without some modicum of repayment at positive terms. Bill Gates is the worlds richest man, but in terms of SOLID cash he's certainly not, just because McCabe is worth £100M doesn't mean he's got £100M in the shed now does it?

hey up ....... its clear thar dun't agree wi me..... fair doo's.

The ability to motivate people shud be near the top of the list if not top when appointing a manager, i never said it was easy.... our gert is a fantastic motivator.

Regarding interest rates have a look through the clubs accounts and tha'll see what i mean.

Have a nice day.

 

[Robbie]

Did you see my post?

My post wasn't referring to you specifically - I was just quoting to the part where you got it spot on.....